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[Deerber]

Deerber,

 

I laughed every time I wrote your name.  Participating in this thread gave me pleasure.  I was pleased to be a part of a scintillating exchange regarding a game I enjoyed and in demonstrating my prowess

 

Right, that's more like it, man, thanks! I'm starting to have fun again now

 

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I'll be back just as soon as I have more likes to give out.

 

Hey butthurt master, what do you think, is this thread good enough that it should get into my signature?

[Creator Limbs]

"prowess"

I'm f*cking dead.

[J. Peterman]

Hey butthurt master, what do you think, is this thread good enough that it should get into my signature?

 

Most definitely

[Peer of the Empire]

Right, that's more like it, man, thanks! I'm starting to have fun again now



Hey butthurt master, what do you think, is this thread good enough that it should get into my signature?

^ Lol. So mad


So are you a girl or a boy

[Peer of the Empire]

Yeah, truly hard to put the acolyte and some bonus for 4k damage. Then Ur linked plat melee build does nt kill a phantom in one pass. Short of few hundreds melee damage. Maybe if U used a bit less shield boosting and fitness. But i guess U R able to stay on rage all the time.

As you know, we don't talk here. Posting from my phone right now. There is some merit to those claiming that the game is dead, as even with Platinum pugs all day and night it's the same meh crowd on the forums

It's not surprising perhaps then that you never read posts about how to actually achieve the kill. Never bothered to make a guide or lowly scrubs would steer a wide berth as people fawned all over me

Will update with answers to your questions later

[capn233]

Like a gold scrub criticizing Platinum builds.  Or specing "Justicar Pull" without Reave offensive sphere

 

I have forgotten more about this game than you have ever known.

[Peer of the Empire]

I have forgotten more about this game than you have ever known.

 

I've seen you in Platinum.  You sucked

 

Now you know better than to have ideas above your station

[capn233]

I've seen you in Platinum.  You sucked

 

Now you know better than to have ideas above your station

 

When was this?  What is your name on Origin?

[Mgamerz]

[Peer of the Empire]

Yeah, truly hard to put the acolyte and some bonus for 4k damage. Then Ur linked plat melee build does nt kill a phantom in one pass. Short of few hundreds melee damage. Maybe if U used a bit less shield boosting and fitness. But i guess U R able to stay on rage all the time.

 

Should have added these in quickly last night or may as well be writing a guide.

 

1)  Unlike many other classes, the Krogan Soldier actually does more killing the more effective fitness he has, the more shields and the more shield regen.  (Yes, we know that Infiltrators have been going without fitness since the beginning of the game)

 

2)  The kill sequence for a Platinum Phantom depends on Carnage. 

With Fortification refreshed in the last 20 seconds: 

 

Acolyte -> Heavy melee -> Carnage achieves the kill in one smooth motion, and some builds when raged are done at melee. 

 

Reverse order for regular mooks, i.e. Acolyte -> Carnage -> Heavy melee to better trigger Rage.

 

Therefore, in order to have maximum killing speed, Carnage must be on fast cooldown.  Another constraint.  Some mooks have more health, and as you say, the health thresholds are important.  With so many enemies, it's not good to leave Phantoms, Marauders alive in your wake, or take too long on possessed troopers.  The builds linked are calibrated to have sufficient damage, given the above methods, to kill all non possessed in one pass.

 

So you have in mind the constraints the Krogan Soldier is under if we are to operate in efficient melee on Platinum. 

 

3) As to why it is hard to achieve 4k barrier damage, I already mentioned the crappy Krogan passives.  Justicar, for example, only needs to go to 4A passives to get 4k Acolyte barrier damage with regular barrel and EDIT: Warp III rounds (haven't looked at it in months).  I don't spec her that way btw.  The Krosol, however, has to spec his entire passives in order to do the same.  We could use Pistol Amps, although SMG amps are better in order to improve his damage where he actually needs it.  Strength Amps are not strong enough in the majority of builds.  We could use ultra heavy barrel, which I do, but obviously adds weight considerations on Carnage

 

EDIT:

Wondering if this entire post can be condensed -

 

1)  Krogan are better killers with shields

2)  Carnage is an integral part of the kill cycle

3)  Krogan has to spec entire passives to achieve certain thresholds

 

   Would save time.  Don't have to do everybody's thinking

[Creator Limbs]

So guys I'm curious, is this the thing to do on the ME3 forum now?

[Peer of the Empire]

When was this?  What is your name on Origin?

 

Why don't you read the thread instead of posting retarded stuff

[Peer of the Empire]

So guys I'm curious, is this the thing to do on the ME3 forum now?

 

Yes now that I am here.  Intruding on your nerd crowd.  Don't care to stay however.  Pics pls?

[Creator Limbs]

You're still a nobody to me :3

[Peer of the Empire]

You're still a nobody to me :3

 

Lovin' the new avatar

 

Right, I'm off.  Don't really have time to argue with angry nerds all day.  What was I thinking.  Lmao

[smeckie]

It's like the good old days!!!!

[Heldarion]

> posts on BWF every 5 minutes

> calls other posters nerds

[Creator Limbs]

It's like the good old days!!!!

What good old days are you referring to? Because the last good old days I remember were when Spectre wasn't community service and people collectively ganged up on morons and PC hacker race still ruled the streets, only they were called the mustard race for some reason.

[MaxCrushmore]

Noooo!

 

I haven't finished my morning coffee yet!

 

Keep going!!!

[smeckie]

What good old days are you referring to? Because the last good old days I remember were when Spectre wasn't community service and people collectively ganged up on morons and PC hacker race still ruled the streets, only they were called the mustard race for some reason.

Those days.

[RealKobeBean]

Right, that's more like it, man, thanks! I'm starting to have fun again now

 

 

Hey butthurt master, what do you think, is this thread good enough that it should get into my signature?

 

Well, I am very honored to have started the thread, then.

[RealKobeBean]

What we have tested so far:

 

 

Krogan Warlord (4x)

They are very durable versus Goons, but you're screwed should one of the Warlords get killed. In the lastest version of my mod, I have 45 Dragoons on the battlefield. Therefore, the Warlords can get surrounded pretty quickly. Electric Hammer is a freakin' must in this mod, and Incendiary/Disruptor Rounds. The problem with this kit, is the fact that you kind of need to let them close first. Next time, we might need to switch weapons or just pray for a better outcome. Two guys (including me) went with a Venom; the other two took a Claymore and a Graal to the fight. The Venom Shotguns did a good job of slowing the enemies down for a few seconds, but you'd be surprised how fast those fuckers get to you. A good missile or two was required, once one of us got downed.

 

Asari Justicar (Acolyte/Hurricane) (4x)

This one was suggested to me, and it was fine for a little while. Our teamwork was solid during the earlier part of the wave. However, we got into trouble when one of our Justicars died. The Dragoons killed our teammate with a combination of gunfire and a well-timed leap of fate. Next thing you know, we all got slaughtered. The Justicar isn't that durable compared to a Warlord, so any incoming fire and melee attacks will seriously harm you. Our Warlords held up much longer thanks to their Rage. With the Justicars, you're fucked!

 

Spitfire AIU (4x)

I Would NOT recommend this set-up to you. This was just for the heck of it, as the Spitfire AIU is kind of a signature kit of mine. Our team lasted for a while, but then we just got swarmed quickly. We did manage to fall back to another part of the map, but the same revive-fest started all over again. It's quite ambitious to go at 60 Dragoons with Spitfire AIUs. Let's keep it at that...

 

Batarian Soldier (4x)

We got very, very far with four Batarian Soldiers. The combination of the Inferno Grenades with Ballistic Blades and the Venom Shotgun...just works like a charm. For the first time, we really felt like we could push them assholes back!

 

N7 Slayers (Venom Shotgun) (4x)

Another great kit for this fight. You just need to time your Charges correctly. One misstep, and you're screwed. Incendiary Rounds are a must, obviously. Phase Disrupter allows you to kill a couple of Dragoons, before they get really close. After they get close, you just go all out!! Just prepare to use a missile here and there. Slayers can stay long in the fight, but you still need to communicate really well with your teammates. If one or two teammates are not on the money, you'll get slaughtered when your Charge is one cooldown.

 

 

We would like to test more kits and weapons versus Dragoons, so keep those suggestions coming.

 

EDIT: I said 60 Dragoons. I checked the MaxCount, it is set at 45 Dragoons.

[TheNightSlasher]

Have you tried 4 drell adepts?

 

Or 4 smashdepts? Or 2 smashdepts + smashguards?

[RealKobeBean]

Have you tried 4 drell adepts?

 

Or 4 smashdepts? Or 2 smashdepts + smashguards?

 

Shoot! We did try 4 Drell Adepts, but they get destroyed as soons as the Goons started to get close to the team. Their lack of durability is a huge problem, even though they are very fast. A couple of burst from a Platinum Dragoon's Hornet does a lot of damage to a Drell Adept. And if you're moving around a lot, the spawns will split. That's also NOT good! We did last pretty long, but we just burned through our Opps Packs like crack.

 

Smash Bros is a good suggestion, mate. We need to try that!

[Heldarion]

Shoot! We did try 4 Drell Adepts, but they get destroyed as soons as the Goons started to get close to the team. Their lack of durability is a huge problem, even though they are very fast. A couple of burst from a Platinum Dragoon's Hornet does a lot of damage to a Drell Adept. And if you're moving around a lot, the spawns will split. That's also NOT good! We did last pretty long, but we just burned through our Opps Packs like crack.

 

Smash Bros is a good suggestion, mate. We need to try that!

 

Yush, give them a taste of their own medicine!