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[Panda]

Also to Architect staying dead or not I think he might not need even body-hop since in the Calling he lost arm but in DA:A he had both arms so it probaply growed back in some way. So he may have some serious healing powers as well.

[Esteed789]

Also to Architect staying dead or not I think he might not need even body-hop since in the Calling he lost arm but in DA:A he had both arms so it probaply growed back in some way. So he may have some serious healing powers as well.

 

If he's a magister, I figure this is easy mode magic for him.  If he's just an intelligent darkspawn, I figure it's a combination of necromancy, to reattach a limb ("donated" from some other Hurlock emissary) and darkspawn magic to reanimate it.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Also to Architect staying dead or not I think he might not need even body-hop since in the Calling he lost arm but in DA:A he had both arms so it probaply growed back in some way. So he may have some serious healing powers as well.

That's actually a common trait for all Darkspawn. The Taint gives them regenerative powers that can even replace limbs. 

[Feranel]

Wouldn't that just be a big rehash of what Corypheus was doing to the Wardens?

 

To be fair, Corypheshits rehashed the Architect's plan from Awakening.  Archy's the OG Warden Manipulator.

[Sifr]

He didn't say he was a Magister.

He said he was like Cory.

I'd take that as both being intelligent Darkspawn.

 

Err, if he's like Corypheus, doesn't that mean exactly that?

 

Sure, if you want to be technical, Gaider didn't outright say "The Architect was a Magister", but he did confirm that "He's the same as Corypheus", which is pretty much the same thing as saying that he was indeed one of the Seven Tevinter Magisters who entered the Golden City?

 

[Wolfen09]

i could never let the bastard live after reading the calling, and things my HOF kills stay dead

[Augustei]

Corypheus was the High Priest of Dumat
Bet The Architect was the High Priest of Urthemiel. Would be rather poetic if this turned out to be the case, since he was the one that ended up resurrecting him and causing the 5th blight.

[myahele]

people are still arguing about this?

 

 

Corypheus and Architect look similar and don't look like any iterations of Darkspawn Emisarry of previous games. Cory and Architect have the merge with their clothes look about them

[TheTsar_]

Spoiler

 

 

 

It's so obvious that it baffles me people still try and deny it.. 
 

[Chari]

Good.

 

#Architect4CompanionDA4

Even better

#Architect4LIDA4

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What? I'm just kidding, kidding he belongs to my Warden anyway > And Utah

[Dgyre]

the first time I saw Corypheous I thought it was the architect, so definitely in game design it would make sense he was also a magister.  But there could be other explanations, an intelligent darkspawn who has memories of the initial corruption so he imitated the look of the magisters?  I don't know.

 

I found the Architect to be very problematic...I mean presenting a solution to the calling and the blights and no more darkwspawn and no more need for wardens...

 

Thats kind of one of the major driving conflicts in Thedas....it would remove a lot of potential future stories to play out...so I wasn't a big of fan of the Architect plot in general.  

 

What about this?  The Magisters actually entered the fade and became corrupted, but obviously (as Red Lyrium indicates) the corruption comes through to the other side...  

 

To enter the Fade, the Magisters had to have had attendants nearby helping with the rituals right?  So maybe the Architect wasn't a full blown Magister, but some other rank, like Dorian, so he is 'dressed' similarly, but not as magically powerful and didn't go into the fade? maybe even has no memory of events prior to being corrupted and becoming darkspawn?  

 

Just some ideas

[Master Warder Z_]

Err, if he's like Corypheus, doesn't that mean exactly that?

Not necessarily in the way it's being taken.

As I said before it could simply be both of them being Darkspawn with a mind of their own.

Beyond that I'm not going to assume he was a Magister just because Cory was one.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

So our choice to kill it or not, may not matter, since he can transfer his soul to another darkspawn.

 

Its not like BioWare is above resurrecting characters, so he probably will be back

 

Seriously?! BioWare. If we killed him, then let the dead character stay dead. How many times you're going to retcon everything for the sake of the current story.

[Esteed789]

 

Seriously?! BioWare. If we killed him, then let the dead character stay dead. How many times you're going to retcon everything for the sake of the current story.

 

To me, under the assumption that being like Cory does mean being a magister, the Architect being back wouldn't be a retcon so much as them using an available narrative out.  If he is a magister, then he can transfer bodies, so killing one body doesn't and shouldn't rule out seeing him again.

 

If that's not what it means (and I do think it's a bit of a stretch at this point to think it isn't) then yeah, that'd be a pretty blatant retcon and I'd be right with you on that table flipping.

[Bigdoser]

 

Seriously?! BioWare. If we killed him, then let the dead character stay dead. How many times you're going to retcon everything for the sake of the current story.

Well Velanna sister is still alive so that is a loophole for his resurrection since she is blighted. 

[raging_monkey]

 Seriously?! BioWare. If we killed him, then let the dead character stay dead. How many times you're going to retcon everything for the sake of the current story.

magic the gathering gets real XD

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

To me, under the assumption that being like Cory does mean being a magister, the Architect being back wouldn't be a retcon so much as them using an available narrative out.  If he is a magister, then he can transfer bodies, so killing one body doesn't and shouldn't rule out seeing him again.

 

If that's not what it means (and I do think it's a bit of a stretch at this point to think it isn't) then yeah, that'd be a pretty blatant retcon and I'd be right with you on that table flipping.

Yeah, I know about that and the fans starting to make an assumption and theory about the Architect being a magister since Legacy. Well, assuming every tainted magister possess the ability to transfer their soul to another tainted being. In that case even if the Warden kills him (his body) it shouldn't stop him from return, but you know how people feel seeing their action may likely be in vain.

 

Well Velanna sister is still alive so that is a loophole for his resurrection since she is blighted. 

 

Well, yeah, that or he could transfer to one of his disciples or surviving darkspawn. I get the feeling we'll deal with his disciples again in the future though.

[TEWR]

 

Seriously?! BioWare. If we killed him, then let the dead character stay dead. How many times you're going to retcon everything for the sake of the current story.

 

To be fair, killing a character that might have soul transfer properties automatically means that he might not be done with. We knew nothing about him, in terms of our Warden. What matters is that it's given recognition in-game.

 

And I don't mean a throwaway line on the choice, as Bioware has been known to do for.... pretty much a lot of choices.

[Han Shot First]

Bioware should just bring the Architect back regardless of whether you killed him or not. He's too interesting a character to fall by the wayside thanks to determinant status.

 

Have the respawn ability be something that all magisters-turned-darkspawn possess, rather than something unique to Corypheus. That isn't to say that you can't have player choice come into play however. You could for example have an Architect who was killed repspawn with a different personality. Maybe that version of the Architect is more aggressive and is no longer looking to 'live and let live' with non-darkspawn.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

To be fair, killing a character that might have soul transfer properties automatically means that he might not be done with. We knew nothing about him, in terms of our Warden. What matters is that it's given recognition in-game.
 
And I don't mean a throwaway line on the choice, as Bioware has been known to do for.... pretty much a lot of choices.

I did admit there are possibility for him to return, and please correct me if I was wrong but we never know tainted being aside from the Archdemon that has soul transfer ability until DAI, and assuming every tainted magisters can pull the same stunt. I fear most recognition will boil down to nothing more than a flavor of text.

Unfortunately...

[Red of Rivia]

 

 

[MisterJB]

1-Darkspawn
2-Intelligent.
3-Memory loss.
4-Mages.
5-Wear robes.
6-Levitation powers.
7-Claws for hands.
8-Skin stretched over clothing that hás fused with flesh.
9-Named after roles in the ritual exactly as described by the codex.
10- Control over the Blight including the Calling ( the Architect was capaple of accelerating the Taint within a Warden in the book)
11- Taller than everyone else.
12- Shoulderpads ( it must havê been all the rage in the Imperium back then)

Am I forgetting anything?

[Hellion Rex]

9-Named after roles in the ritual exactly as described by the codex.


Am I forgetting anything?

Well, technically we don't know any of the other names of the other positions in the ritual. Granted, Architect sounds a hell of a lot like it's on par with "Conductor".

[Hellion Rex]

Hell, I really don't give a damn if he's a magister or not. I just want the damn creature to stay dead. I let Bioware get away with bringing Cory back, but I don't know if I can handle another body hopping darkspawn.

[RobRam10]

Are there really people that think that he's just a random darkspawn?