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[McPartyson]

I think it's very likely that early in development, Bioware was gonna go with Hawke getting the mark and the player being Hawke throughout the game but at some point added the extra races for appeal evidenced by them looking rushed in to the game (technical/graphical issues).

 

Corypheus is from Dragon Age 2...Bioware is stealing Hawke's thunder! it's like Inquisition is a sequel that stole the glory from Hawke. It would be like Mass Effect 2 or 3 without Shepard. It would be like Empire Strikes back or Return of the Jedi with only a brief cameo of Luke Skywalker.

 

It just makes more sense for Hawke to of become the Inquisitor instead of making up some bs story about why he wasn't around.

 

If Hawke wasn't to be the playable character, then I would of prefered him to be Inquisitor and me the playable character as his right hand and then maybe later some sort of tragedy takes his life and i become Inquisitor...

 

What do you guys think?

 

 

[Feranel]

I think that was one of the options on the table, maybe not the only and original one, but one that was considered. I'm also fairly certain that Warden Commander Clarel's role was considered for the HOF if alive.

[In Exile]

They dropped the idea of Hawke as the Inquisitor, IMO, around the time DA2 flopped completely. I'm sure the idea was that DA2 would be this extended origin story, which would let them explore a whole new side heroic fantasy and would allow them to kickstart an ME-like franchise. The problem with all of that is that origin stories aren't interesting as a standalone story, and generally there's not that much too them. 

 

You can see the idea of the Hawkequisitor in some of the early DA2 marketing. 

[McPartyson]

I think that was one of the options on the table, maybe not the only and original one, but one that was considered. I'm also fairly certain that Warden Commander Clarel's role was considered for the HOF if alive.

 

The HoF being Clarel would of been a very interesting dynamic... Any mention of HoF in Inquistion was not really worth the effort.

[In Exile]

The HoF being Clarel would of been a very interesting dynamic... Any mention of HoF in Inquistion was not really worth the effort.

 

While Bioware was happy to break characters with DA:A, I don't think they'll ever have a former PC in an effectively villanous role like Clarel. I'm sure that if the Warden had VO they'd use the character in place of Loghalistroud. 

[Feranel]

The HoF being Clarel would of been a very interesting dynamic... Any mention of HoF in Inquistion was not really worth the effort.

 

Imagine if instead of the Warden Ally going with you into the fade, it's the Warden Commander, and now the decision is between two of your previous protagonists, both who had a hand in causing all of this.  Hawke for arrogantly releasing Corypheus and the Warden Commander for going along with Erimond's scheme.

[omgodzilla]

I think that was one of the options on the table, maybe not the only and original one, but one that was considered. I'm also fairly certain that Warden Commander Clarel's role was considered for the HOF if alive.

 

Seeing the HOF getting chomped by that dragon would've pissed off so many people lol. 

[Darkly Tranquil]

I'd say it was the original plan. DA2 was touted as "the rise to power of the most influential character in Thedas" (or words to that effect), so it suggests that Hawke was intended to be the Inquisitor at some stage in their planning. Presumably the very poor reception of DA2 and the strong desire of the fans for race options led the devs to rethink their plans. Personally, I think they were trying to set Hawke up as the Commander Shepard of DA, but for various reasons it didn't pan out.

[In Exile]

I'd say it was the original plan. DA2 was touted as "the rise to power of the most influential character in Thedas" (or words to that effect), so it suggests that Hawke was intended to be the Inquisitor at some stage in their planning. Presumably the very poor reception of DA2 and the strong desire of the fans for race options led the devs to rethink their plans. Personally, I think they were trying to set Hawke up as the Commander Shepard of DA, but for various reasons it didn't pan out.

 

I don't think the race options mattered. DA:I was human only until relatively late, i.e., when they got the 1 year delay. It was getting as far away from DA2 as possible. Hence the name change to DA:I from DA3. 

[McPartyson]

I'd say it was the original plan. DA2 was touted as "the rise to power of the most influential character in Thedas" (or words to that effect), so it suggests that Hawke was intended to be the Inquisitor at some stage in their planning. Presumably the very poor reception of DA2 and the strong desire of the fans for race options led the devs to rethink their plans. Personally, I think they were trying to set Hawke up as the Commander Shepard of DA, but for various reasons it didn't pan out.

 

That is unfortunate. I feel like character/story development would of just been top notch if they stuck with Hawke as main character. No need to blow resources on extra races.

[Uccio]

They dropped the idea of Hawke as the Inquisitor, IMO, around the time DA2 flopped completely. I'm sure the idea was that DA2 would be this extended origin story, which would let them explore a whole new side heroic fantasy and would allow them to kickstart an ME-like franchise. The problem with all of that is that origin stories aren't interesting as a standalone story, and generally there's not that much too them. 

 

You can see the idea of the Hawkequisitor in some of the early DA2 marketing. 

 

 

It would have been if the pc would have had actually different origins with different races. Human only really pissed all over Origins.

[Eelectrica]

Probably, I'm not sorry they didn't go with it since Hawke could only be a human character.

Makes the game a lot more interesting not being locked in to a human only role.

 

Really hope ME4 allows for other playable races as well instead of being restricted.

[ashlover mark 2]

Yes, I belive Hawke was supposed to be the protagonist of Inqusition but the idea was dropped when DA2 didn't do so well. A shame IMO cuz Hawke > Inquisitor.

[dsl08002]

The thing is that the role of the inquisitor could have been either hawke or HoF. They could easily jump in and it would made no difference

[Adanu]

 Hawke for arrogantly releasing Corypheus

 

.... what? The only reason Hawke 'released' him was because he had no choice, then didn't know he could jump bodies. I mean really, you act as if he had a choice in the matter.
 

[McPartyson]

The thing is that the role of the inquisitor could have been either hawke or HoF. They could easily jump in and it would made no difference

 

Ya, well if Inquisitor was HoF they would of had to scrap Qunari and if he he were Hawke, all other races.

 

Sure the races other than human are cool to have, but they're mostly done poorly in comparison to the human. Pretty noticeable if you played them all.

 

When i talk to Hawke as my Inquisitor, he's just way more awesome, he speaks like a true leader. My inquisitor is just some poor sap imitator in dialogue... i'm like... uh, why am i in charge?

[Todrazok]

I don't think so, the rise to power thing was there because of marketing fluff in my opinion. If anything it's the cancelled expansion that I attribute this to. Recently there was an article saying many characters would've died in said expansion, so I'm thinking Hawke's potential sacrifice was originally part of that.

[In Exile]

It would have been if the pc would have had actually different origins with different races. Human only really pissed all over Origins.

That's absurd. You could create an amazing multiple origin game a single race PC. The problem is that origin stories suck as a standalone.

[Sifr]

.... what? The only reason Hawke 'released' him was because he had no choice, then didn't know he could jump bodies. I mean really, you act as if he had a choice in the matter.
 

 

Yeah, it really bothers me when people use that argument. Did anyone actually pay attention to what happened in Legacy?

 

If it wasn't for Janeka wanting to free Corypheus, she would never have hired the Carta to attack Hawke, so Varric would never have tracked them down, then they wouldn't have gotten stuck in the prison and been forced to free Corypheus in order to leave. How any of that was Hawke or Varric's fault (as Inquisition would have them bemoan) is really beyond me, since it was hardly like they set out to free him and they honestly believed they'd killed him.

 

Besides, the seals of the Grey Warden prison were already breaking down, which was the entire reason they hired Hawke's father in the first place to top them up over twenty years ago, and thus why they so desperately needed Hawke to break the seals? Furthermore, it was not like the Wardens themselves were maintaining a presence in that prison, as it's long been abandoned, left to ruin and become overrun with Darkspawn.

 

It all points to the obvious conclusion that if Hawke had never gone there, Corypheus would have still gotten out eventually.

[MonkeyLungs]

I wonder if, on the down low, Bioware really wants to just make the next game set 'after' the dragon age and just jump way ahead in time and be done with all this having to worry about pleasing all of us fans with our connections to these characters and stories.

 

Already the scope of potentialities is starting to become way too much for Bioware to really handle in any depth and instead of actually using DA:I to shore up and finalize character and story threads they just left almost all of them hanging.

 

I really enjoy Dragon Age games and Bioware games in general. They are some of my favorites of all times, but I would really love to see them tighten up their storytelling. It feels like loads of cliffhangers all over the place.

[Ogillardetta]

Pity if it was the case. Imagine the fun sarcastic hawke could have had with that title.

[Darkly Tranquil]

I wonder if, on the down low, Bioware really wants to just make the next game set 'after' the dragon age and just jump way ahead in time and be done with all this having to worry about pleasing all of us fans with our connections to these characters and stories.
 
Already the scope of potentialities is starting to become way too much for Bioware to really handle in any depth and instead of actually using DA:I to shore up and finalize character and story threads they just left almost all of them hanging.

They don't need to jump ahead in time. They are (if what we know is correct) jumping to Tevinter, which will have few if any connections to southern Thedas, allowing them to effectively start afresh without all the baggage of the previous games while still fitting in with the rest of Dragon Age as we know it.

[Little Princess Peach]

Imagine if instead of the Warden Ally going with you into the fade, it's the Warden Commander, and now the decision is between two of your previous protagonists, both who had a hand in causing all of this.  Hawke for arrogantly releasing Corypheus and the Warden Commander for going along with Erimond's scheme.

you'd think our wardens would know better

[Little Princess Peach]

Yeah, it really bothers me when people use that argument. Did anyone actually pay attention to what happened in Legacy?

Not really I was to busy trying to let demons out of there cadges

[AWTEW]

Yes, I belive Hawke was supposed to be the protagonist of Inqusition but the idea was dropped when DA2 didn't do so well. A shame IMO cuz Hawke > Inquisitor.

 

Agreed.

 

Pity if it was the case. Imagine the fun sarcastic hawke could have had with that title.

 

And now we will never know *sigh* The best written protagonist IMO sarcastic Hawke, shafted for a wet-blanket.

They don't need to jump ahead in time. They are (if what we know is correct) jumping to Tevinter, which will have few if any connections to southern Thedas, allowing them to effectively start afresh without all the baggage of the previous games while still fitting in with the rest of Dragon Age as we know it.

 

Except that, even going to tevinter is problematic. Characters from previous games will still be alive, and cameos will be expected.  Can't you just see the threads 'why wasn't morrigan* in DA4* Blah Blah Blah. They need to go ahead in time where everyone is dead.