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[Eldial3los]

Scout Harding is the original inquisitor

[Law527]

I think Cassandra yelling at Varric about how Hawke was supposed to lead this inquisition was Bioware's meta-way of letting us know Hawk would have been the character had DA2 not been ass. Hawke was supposed to be a continuous character like Shepard because everyone loved ME.

[McPartyson]

I think Cassandra yelling at Varric about how Hawke was supposed to lead this inquisition was Bioware's meta-way of letting us know Hawk would have been the character had DA2 not been ass. Hawke was supposed to be a continuous character like Shepard because everyone loved ME.

 

I think people who don't like Hawke would have come to like his character in DAI as Inquisitor, especially since I think Bioware would of been able to create a much richer dialogue rather than being so broad due to the impersonal random inquisitor characters we have now. I truly believe that Bioware deep down wanted it this way... I mean, they brought his best pal Varric back in DAI. Cassandra and Cullen are his people too. Cormypheus is his nemesis.

 

Maybe it would persuade people to give DA2 and all it's DLC another shot too and push Hawke into celebrity game character status.

[Angarma]

Originally, was not Hawke/Inquisitor going to the lead the Seekers?

I've seen their symbol on copious amounts of character art.

Yes and without the sword being drawn through the eye, unlike the Inquisition.

 

I think that was one of the options on the table, maybe not the only and original one, but one that was considered. I'm also fairly certain that Warden Commander Clarel's role was considered for the HOF if alive.

 

Clarel? I figured it quite clear (via dialogue) that initially, the Hero of Ferelden would have been Hawke's contact.

[KaiserShep]

I think people who don't like Hawke would have come to like his character in DAI as Inquisitor, especially since I think Bioware would of been able to create a much richer dialogue rather than being so broad due to the impersonal random inquisitor characters we have now. I truly believe that Bioware deep down wanted it this way... I mean, they brought his best pal Varric back in DAI. Cassandra and Cullen are his people too. Cormypheus is his nemesis.

 

Maybe it would persuade people to give DA2 and all it's DLC another shot too and push Hawke into celebrity game character status.

Perhaps, but for those who have their hearts set on playing a dwarf, elf and now qunari, there's no changing minds there. Some might go along with having no choice but to play a human, albeit begrudgingly, but I don't think that BioWare is ever going to back away from the race option again for this franchise because of it. Doesn't matter how little I agree with this, but that's just the way it seems to be.

[ashlover mark 2]

Originally, was not Hawke/Inquisitor going to the lead the Seekers?

I've seen their symbol on copious amounts of character art.

Yes and without the sword being drawn through the eye, unlike the Inquisition.

 

 

Clarel? I figured it quite clear (via dialogue) that initially, the Hero of Ferelden would have been Hawke's contact.

Exactly, like how the contact is referred to as 'The Warden' several times instead of his actual name. Example: "Hawke and The Warden should be close by."-Varric or "The Warden and I will go scout out Adamant."-Hawke

[LobselVith8]

Exactly, like how the contact is referred to as 'The Warden' several times instead of his actual name. Example: "Hawke and The Warden should be close by."-Varric or " The Warden and I will go scout out Adamant."- Hawke

 

I think that was simply done to save money (since it would mean having to say the name of each potential Warden otherwise), similar to why Lavellan uses Andrastian terminology instead of elvish terms (shemlen, the Beyond, spirits instead of demons, ect).

[TheTsar_]

Would've been so much better to be honest. 

[ashlover mark 2]

I think that was simply done to save money (since it would mean having to say the name of each potential Warden otherwise), similar to why Lavellan uses Andrastian terminology instead of elvish terms (shemlen, the Beyond, spirits instead of demons, ect).

But they do it anyway. The contact is almost always referred to by name. Would it really break the bank if they had said their names a few more times? Bioware is slick, I never sleep on them.

[AresKeith]

I think Cassandra yelling at Varric about how Hawke was supposed to lead this inquisition was Bioware's meta-way of letting us know Hawk would have been the character had DA2 not been ass. Hawke was supposed to be a continuous character like Shepard because everyone loved ME.

 

Cassandra was also looking at the Warden to be the Inquisitor before Hawke

[LobselVith8]

But they do it anyway. The contact is almost always referred to by name. Would it really break the bank if they had said their names a few more times? Bioware is slick, I never sleep on them.

 

In certain scenes, but in several they simply refer to the character as the 'Warden', which likely was a monetary issue, since it meant they didn't need the voice actor to say Alistair, Loghain, or Stroud instead. It's the same reason Lavellan only uses Andrastian terminology in saying 'the Fade' instead of 'the Beyond', 'demons' instead of 'spirits', and 'humans' instead of 'shemlen'.

[Teddie Sage]

I would've loved playing as Hawke again and see whatever happened to his companions in the sequel. Sadly, the "hardcore" fanbase wanted something else. Again, as part of a minority, I had to shut up and follow the rest of the troops.

Edit: I only speak for myself here, don't feel offended if it seems that I talk for you.

[AresKeith]

I would've loved playing as Hawke again and see whatever happened to his companions in the sequel. Sadly, the "hardcore" fanbase wanted something else. Again, as part of a minority, I had to shut up and follow the rest of the troops.

 

So we're blaming the "hardcore" fans because Bioware wants to do a new protagonist each game now

[chomesoon74]

I think it's very likely that early in development, Bioware was gonna go with Hawke getting the mark and the player being Hawke throughout the game but at some point added the extra races for appeal evidenced by them looking rushed in to the game (technical/graphical issues).

 

Corypheus is from Dragon Age 2...Bioware is stealing Hawke's thunder! it's like Inquisition is a sequel that stole the glory from Hawke. It would be like Mass Effect 2 or 3 without Shepard. It would be like Empire Strikes back or Return of the Jedi with only a brief cameo of Luke Skywalker.

 

It just makes more sense for Hawke to of become the Inquisitor instead of making up some bs story about why he wasn't around.

 

If Hawke wasn't to be the playable character, then I would of prefered him to be Inquisitor and me the playable character as his right hand and then maybe later some sort of tragedy takes his life and i become Inquisitor...

 

What do you guys think?

I wish they had. Hawke was a much more interesting character than the inquisitor. I would have loved to have played my aggressive Hawke again. We already had a really good back story with Hawke. 

 

Remember Cassandra's argument with Varric about how she wanted to find Hawke to get her to be the inquisitor? So yeah, it looks like that was the original plan. I'm sure it was scrapped because of people whining that they wanted to be a Dwarf even when it made no sense for a Dwarf or Qunari to be an inquisitor.

[Teddie Sage]

So we're blaming the "hardcore" fans because Bioware wants to do a new protagonist each game now

Not "we", I do. I speak for myself only.

[LobselVith8]

I wish they had. Hawke was a much more interesting character than the inquisitor. I would have loved to have played my aggressive Hawke again. We already had a really good back story with Hawke. 

 

Remember Cassandra's argument with Varric about how she wanted to find Hawke to get her to be the inquisitor? So yeah, it looks like that was the original plan. I'm sure it was scrapped because of people whining that they wanted to be a Dwarf even when it made no sense for a Dwarf or Qunari to be an inquisitor.

 

I don't see why you'd think that; it makes sense that a dwarf or a qunari would want to stop an apocalyptic event that threatens all life on Thedas. It's not as though a religiously Andrastian human like Hawke is the only type of person who would want to prevent a crisis like the Breach.

[AresKeith]

Not "we", I do. I speak for myself only.

 

Doesn't really change what I said

[Teddie Sage]

Doesn't really change what I said

It sounded like I was putting words in other people's mouths when I made my rant. I wasn't including anyone but me. Sorry if you read it like that.

[ashlover mark 2]

I'm a pretty hardcore Dragon Age and Mass Effect fan and I couldn't care less about playing as an Elf, Qunari, Dwarf, Turian, Krogan ect. ect. If the next DA and ME protagonists' are strictly human -- fine by me. 

[Squeeze the Fish]

TBH, I'm glad they didn't bring back Hawke as I thought the byproducts of DAII they included were rather...lackluster (see: Varric, Corypheus). I'm also over plot-device!Morrigan.

 

I was really only looking forward to seeing Bodhan and Sandal. That obviously didn't pan out.

 

I like the new cast, wouldn't mind playing the Inquisitor and co. again, but I think they'll wrap his/her story up with DLC or an expansion.

 

I'm equally excited about the idea of 'cutting ties' with the previous games and moving to Tevinter (or anywhere, really, ancient Arlathan, ftw!), with a clean slate.

[Bakgrind]

I would've loved playing as Hawke again and see whatever happened to his companions in the sequel. Sadly, the "hardcore" fanbase wanted something else. Again, as part of a minority, I had to shut up and follow the rest of the troops.

Edit: I only speak for myself here, don't feel offended if it seems that I talk for you.

 

Who knows but maybe for the next game in the series when you select what race you want to play they may have an iconic hero  option from the previous games that you could be as well. Like your Warden, Hawke or  as the Inquisitor. After three games with different heroes in each of them it's time for a change

[ashlover mark 2]

We'll be getting a new protagonist for DA4. But I'm pretty sure several familiar faces will be will be going North with us. I'd bet money on it.

[Ferocious7]

I am very happy they didn't go with Hawke being the Inquisitor.  Hawke is no Shepard.  Let's be clear on that.

The Inquisitor is the most Shepard-like out of all of the 3 main DA protagonists, followed by HoF, then Hawke.

I'm not sure how your Inquisitor play went but my playthroughs had developed an awesome protagonist in each --- making a lot of different decisions across playthroughs (although some decisions I really just prefer a certain way but have reloaded to try each which led me to that conclusion).  With that said.. Cassandra ftw... such an awesome companion.

[McPartyson]

I am very happy they didn't go with Hawke being the Inquisitor.  Hawke is no Shepard.  Let's be clear on that.

The Inquisitor is the most Shepard-like out of all of the 3 main DA protagonists, followed by HoF, then Hawke.

I'm not sure how your Inquisitor play went but my playthroughs had developed an awesome protagonist in each --- making a lot of different decisions across playthroughs (although some decisions I really just prefer a certain way but have reloaded to try each which led me to that conclusion).  With that said.. Cassandra ftw... such an awesome companion.

 

I played multiple races/classes/decisions, and it's really same-ish dialogue. Hawke developing into an Inquisitor from when he first began in Kirkwall would of been great, and he already has so much history to fall back on. The blank state inquisitors are nobodys... don't get me wrong, I still had tons of fun with my inquisitors but I think with Hawke it would of been a lot more personal.

[LobselVith8]

I played multiple races/classes/decisions, and it's really same-ish dialogue.

 

The backgrounds and motivations for the characters aren't necessarily the same, even if we're faced with the same choices. Some people are much more interested in playing as an elf, a dwarf, or a qunari. Different racial backgrounds allow players to roleplay as a character from a particular race that they like, and it can help shape the motivations of their main character. A Dalish elf who follows the Creators and wants to help the Elvhen is going to be different from a Carta dwarf who believes in the Stone and no longer has to be part of a criminal underworld as a means of survival.

 

Hawke developing into an Inquisitor from when he first began in Kirkwall would of been great, and he already has so much history to fall back on. The blank state inquisitors are nobodys... don't get me wrong, I still had tons of fun with my inquisitors but I think with Hawke it would of been a lot more personal.

 

And incredibly restrictive for anyone who had no interest in playing as an Andrastian human.