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[Ieldra]

That says it all.

 

Yeah, nothing. Unless you think action in a non action RPG and graphics are improvements. Then yeah, huuuuuuuuge improvement. WOOOOW. So much better. WOOOOOW. Even then, you finish the game exploring it all once, all the wow is gone and you are left with pure unaltered crap for the next playthroughs. amazing *o*

You know what is amazing? That I can enjoy several playthroughs of "crap" so much... as a player who has seen the evolution of rpgs on electronic media since their very beginning.

 

But then, perhaps it's just that I'm not stuck in the "everything was better in the good old times" trap like so many others. One would think that people half my age would be a little more adaptable. That's not to say DAI has no flaws. It has big ones. But the overall experience is still great. Even more than once.

[katokires]

I've played their games since BG, and I love DA:I.

Don't pretend to speak for me.

Of course you do, look at your avatar...

You're not judging DAI as a DA or DA elders, aka DnD games, you're just judging as a game. And for the 100000000th time, DAI is an amazing game. Now if you disagree please talk about how it is exactly like BG, NWN and DAO killing respawning enemies in huge maps to get materials instead of talking about the things they had in common pretending they are the same. As if in any of this previus game you were jumping around, holding mouse buttons and being unable to build your character. Also the quantity of fetch quests, not the proportion, the absolute number, is beyond ridiculous compared to any previous game, so that they could fill the uselessly huge maps.

Be honest enough to admit you just wanted a game you could enjoy. You probably like the story, the writting in general, probably, I'd say you love the characters the most, and you like the gameplay and graphics. And that is ok, as I said before Inquisition is a great game.

But there is no point in saying you like the old games if you do not compare Inquisition to those games and automatically hate Inquisition for being different. It just proves those games weren't perfect for you. Even ten thousand year in the future I wouldn't change a thing in BG2, NWN2 or DAO, because I actually loved them as they were, I loved them because of what they are. I don't love them because I acknowledge they were the best Bioware could do with the hardware at that time, I do not love them despite technical limitations, I love them BECAUSE they were like that.

So, again, there is no point in bringing "I played and loved BG" if you do not miss distributing stat points, which this game and the next Bioware RPGs had, up unitil DA2, there is no point if you don't miss the boring combat, there is no point if you don't miss point and click exploration, that is not hard to understand... if you don't miss hundreds of features that there were in these games that are NOT in Inquisition then there is no point in saying you loved BG.

You PROBABLY (I don't read minds) just loved Bioware writting and characters, and liked them in that world because that is what you had, but if you like, or even accept Inquisition, you didn't love those games, because as I said before, when you love something you don't want it to change because you love it for each specific characteristic. So just sit there in you sofa and ask yourself what exactly did you like in BG since you don't miss many of the things that there were in BG and are not in Inquisition. Ask yourself what there was in BG that you couldn't live without, then there is your answer of what you like.

Seriously, what is the point in saying I played Bg, or even every single Bioware RPG if you are not talking about specific characteristics that you can't live without? This says as much as nothing. Or, as I said, it just tell us you love Bioware writting, so stop bringing it as if it meant you loved those games.

It is like saying you love Taekwondo and loved a videogame of taekwondo where you can only punch. There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong in it, except that there is no point in saying you love taekwondo if you don't miss the kicks that are like 70% of the training, 90% of the fights. So yeah, you can like whatever you want, but why bring it into an argument if it means nothing?

"bla bla bla you are wrong" - Yeah? Ok? So what does exactly mean you liking the oldies? Why bring it? I guess you think it is about status, or that you think it validates your opinion. No. Whe people say I loved BG we mean we love specific aspects of BG in gaming, aspects that changed game after game until nothing was left in Inquisition. So if it does not bother you at all, again what the hell did you like in these old games that are not Bioware writting? And if you do love why don't you miss it? If you don't miss it or prefer the way things are in Inquisition why the hell bring it to the discussion?

[Winged Silver]

Glad you enjoyed Inquisition! Even with the minor glitches I experienced (I know some people have been having more trouble, which is really unfortunate for them), I've really enjoyed it.

 

If you did enjoy this game, I do recommend you take a look at Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2. Those both have some cool things going on, and help set up a lot for Inquisition (but don't expect a perfect game from DAO, despite the way some players seem to put it on a pedestal. It's a super fun game, one of my favorites, but it definitely also came with its own assortment of issues. And Dragon Age II definitely has its flaws, but again, it's got a lot of fun things going on, and definitely is helpful for the set up of Inquisition).

 

Happy gaming!

[Meepichi]

Never mind all the negative Nancy's, I've also enjoyed the game. Is it all it could've been? Heck no, but I've found it enjoyable enough to put in around 300 hrs and I'm not ready to stop yet! It's not on par with DA:O but it's still plenty fun for me.

[Biotic Flash Kick]

ignorance is bliss

[LuckShot]

I don't bother with opinions anyways. This game has given me more enjoyment with the first 60 hours than Skyrim ever did. So I'm happy I bought it. I would be even happier if they made some DLC for it to add more Dragons to kill.

[c00lgy24]

Do I agree with everything that the OP said no , but to question their intelligence for enjoying a Video Game , some of you should be ashamed of yourselves .

[Farangbaa]

Of course you do, look at your avatar...
You're not judging DAI as a DA or DA elders, aka DnD games, you're just judging as a game. And for the 100000000th time, DAI is an amazing game. Now if you disagree please talk about how it is exactly like BG, NWN and DAO

You could've stopped there. It's completely your own fault that you expected a carbon copy game of BG, NWN or DA:O. Any of the pre release gameplay footage released should've shown you this. Also, why you'd judge ANY Dragon Age game as DnD is beyond me. It has never been DnD.

Now for the rest of your rant: Yes I like DA:I for being a good game. How is this a bad thing?

And I seriously don't understand your statement that if you love something you don't want it to change. I'd still be playing Super Mario Bros 3 then and cursing at 3D and how much that changed the gameplay of platformers. Or I'd still be playing Baldur's Gate and cursing at how Dragon Age gives you statpoints upon level up, or how NWN gives you a crazy amount of skills, or how renegeration between battles is ridiculous like it does in DA:O.

Games change constantly, it's one of the reasons I love them, and I can't grasp why you'd constantly want to play the same game in a different setting.

[Xralius]

I like how he completely avoids answering the question about what he liked about BG.

[Xralius]

Maybe they'll come out with Battlefield:Dragon Age first persion shooter. He'd probably still defend it even though it wouldn't even be in the same genre and would have about as much immersion as Pong. Afterall, games change.

[Xralius]

Also, DAI is not an amazing game. It has amazing graphics. It has amazing music. Everything else is kind of bad, except for the characters which are pretty good.

[Serza]

The fact that it's your first Dragon Age and Bioware games is why you enjoyed it.  Those of us who've experienced the quality of games they put out in the past are mostly left with bitter disappointment.

 

Glad you enjoyed the game.

 

I wonder, why would your sentence suggest that every is mostly disappointed, albeit with slight ambiguity.

 

I for one have played previous games, and am one of the happy customers.

[Teddie Sage]

Do I agree with everything that the OP said no , but to question their intelligence for enjoying a Video Game , some of you should be ashamed of yourselves .

The exact thing happened to me the other day on Youtube because I have a Lightning avatar from Final Fantasy XIII. People just love being pricks online, nothing new here. 

OP: I'm glad you loved the game. But if I were you, I'd stay the hell away from these boards, unless you got nerves of steel. Too much negativity. 

[SunburnedPenguin]

I'm speaking specifically of the Exalted Plains with its overabundance of palisades you should be able to climb but can't, which forces you to make your way along 100% predetermined long straight paths just like in DA2's Wounded Coast. And also of the Oasis where the paths were so convoluted that the illusion of naturalness was broken. All other maps were great.

 

As for the Skyhold outfit, it's a leftover placeholder designed to be neutral (=bland) in color and very close-fitting (which is in that extremity against the style of most outfits in the world) as to not interfere with any animations during testing, and to have the Inquisitor clothed if no outfit is equipped. It's easily recognizable as such.

 

You have something to show me that proves your theory about the skyhold outfit I take it? If not, do yourself a favour and stop stating opinions as fact.

 

Not really. The combat being dumbed down is pretty much a fact when you see how limited it is compared to the other games in the series. Mathematics doesn't lie.

 

 

If you played through DAO right before DAI, you will realise just how much was lost

 

 

That says it all.

 

Yeah, nothing. Unless you think action in a non action RPG and graphics are improvements. Then yeah, huuuuuuuuge improvement. WOOOOW. So much better. WOOOOOW. Even then, you finish the game exploring it all once, all the wow is gone and you are left with pure unaltered crap for the next playthroughs. amazing *o*

 

These are all still opinions. Nothing more.

 

I find it quite sad that the negative whiners in this thread believe that their opinion is the only one, that their opinion is fact and should apply to everyone else's experience. Is it jealousy? Are you jealous that other people are enjoying the game? Or do you just like spreading negativity?

[Hamsterkiker]

The whiners threads are ignored by most so they try to hijacks others,just ignore them like the rest of us do and glad you enjoyed Da:I

[Farangbaa]

The exact thing happened to me the other day on Youtube because I have a Lightning avatar from Final Fantasy XIII. People just love being pricks online, nothing new here. 

OP: I'm glad you loved the game. But if I were you, I'd stay the hell away from these boards, unless you got nerves of steel. Too much negativity.

It's the same thing with music, for some people. For them it's downright impossible that you like metal music but some hip hop too.

[Farangbaa]

I like how he completely avoids answering the question about what he liked about BG.

Because it doesn't matter. Even if what he says was true, that I only like Bioware games for their stories, that wouldn't change anything.

Like his reasons for liking those games are somehow better than what he thinks my reasons for liking the games are.

[Xralius]

I'll tell you people why you like the game:
Hinterlands sucked. Boring. Repetition. Little story.
Everything after that is a large improvement. It's such an improvement that it makes you think you are playing a good game.
This combined with the game being loooong. Any time you willingly play a game for hours upon hours, your brain will begin to convince itself that it's enjoyable. This is called cognitive dissonance- your beliefs change to match your behavior.

That, plus good graphics and soundtrack, is enough to make people think that they are playing a good game.

[Teddie Sage]

I'll tell you people why you like the game:
Hinterlands sucked. Boring. Repetition. Little story.
Everything after that is a large improvement. It's such an improvement that it makes you think you are playing a good game.
This combined with the game being loooong. Any time you willingly play a game for hours upon hours, your brain will begin to convince itself that it's enjoyable. This is called cognitive dissonance- your beliefs change to match your behavior.

That, plus good graphics and soundtrack, is enough to make people think that they are playing a good game.

Actually, I loved this game because of the characters, the many places to explore, the lore elements and the little things that added more flavour to everything. The gameplay isn't as good as DAO and DAII, but that can easily be fixed with patches. I agree that the story isn't that good compared to the two first games, but the level of customization and personal choices brought to the conversations makes each new session even more interesting for me.

[hostaman]

I'll tell you people why you like the game:
Hinterlands sucked. Boring. Repetition. Little story.
Everything after that is a large improvement. It's such an improvement that it makes you think you are playing a good game.
This combined with the game being loooong. Any time you willingly play a game for hours upon hours, your brain will begin to convince itself that it's enjoyable. This is called cognitive dissonance- your beliefs change to match your behavior.

That, plus good graphics and soundtrack, is enough to make people think that they are playing a good game.

 

And THAT is referred to as condescension, an attitude of patronizing superiority.

 

I'm also enjoying DAI - No, it's not perfect, but it's still a blast for me and plenty of other people who don't need to be told what to like. 

[Xralius]

I'm not trying to be condescending. The reason i know that cognitive dissonance plays such a big part is because I experienced myself:
My friend quit playing the game after one day. I kept playing it (even though i disliked it immediately to the point of revulsion) because I heard it got bettet aftet hinterlands.
I then found myself defending the game more and more. So did some introspection and realized why.

1. My brain needed to rationalize playing something so bad for 100 hours.
2. I wanted other people to play it so I would be able to talk about it with them, even though it was bad.
3. It DID get better after Hinterlands.
4. I was still in shock/denial that this is what Dragon age had stooped to.

[Captain Wiseass]

5. Enjoyment is subjective, and one person can enjoy something while another doesn't and not have something wrong with them.

 

The game made him happy. It didn't make you happy. That's life.

[Xralius]

People defend things that they think they should lile or have poured time into. It's the reason some of us say we like our jobs when people ask, even though we'd rather be doing just about anything else. Cognitive dissonance effects us all.

[Xralius]

Well I understand thwt some people might like the game.
However:
To say you LOVED DA:Origins and are happy with this game... That is not logical because if you really LOVED Origins you would be upset losing so many great things that made up that game; customization, atmosphere, story, characters, combat, lore, the list goes on.