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[stonerbishop]

I think k elves are the LEAST LIKELY to have been at the conclave to begin with. So, I would say no.
Human most likely to be there followed by qunari, then dwarf, then anything, then dalish elf

[NRieh]

 

it seems that in DA:I the Elves got favoured (and I don't say this in a negative way)

Are you kidding? Halamshiral can hardly make any sense with anyone but noble human!

That's especially hard for someone who'd read the 'Masked Empire' beforehand. There's no way the court would've accepted an Elf, not to mention that I'd really love to know where the Dalish warrior could possibly learn the court dances. Dancing with the female dwarf looks even more ridiculous, though.

 

Every single bit of story suggests that rest of the races were added in progress, where only the humans had  been considered originally. I'm happy that they had removed 'becoming the Divine' option (at least). 

[King Cousland]

@simpatikool:  Myself as well.  I always play as an elf if given the chance and I'm glad it was confirmed that Solas took Flemeth's power and not that Flemeth took over Solas.  I think Elves and Elven history need some attention.  IMO because of my elf thing!

 

Can I ask where this was confirmed?

 

I'm not doubting you, I just wasn't aware there'd been any rumblings from the dev team since Inquisition's release 

[stonerbishop]

All elves should die in a fire. We should only have Dwarven protagonists from now on

[Little Mama]

Can I ask where this was confirmed?

 

I'm not doubting you, I just wasn't aware there'd been any rumblings from the dev team since Inquisition's release 

It's confirmed by the design notes regarding Flemeth. She gives her power to Solas knowing that if she doesn't he'll likely kill her anyway for it beacuse his mission is that imorptant to him. 

 

 

javeart, on 16 Jan 2015 - 7:10 PM, said:

Also: I don't think they look anorexic. There's plenty of people in real life that it's just naturally skinny. And, if I have to choose between the skinny elf male inquisitor and the super-bulky human male inquisitor, I'd pick the elf every time

 

Here comes the monkeyman!  _{(human male running)}

[Navasha]

I definitely feel that my elven inquisitor (romanced Solas) feels the most natural to the story.   It has all the elements of good story-telling in that tale.    The human is decent as well if you are roleplaying an andrastian faithful. 

 

Not sure the male elf would feel quite as good even.    After playing the elf first, I have to say the following playthroughs with other races do seem to be lacking that extra intrigue.

[Emerald Rift]

Are you kidding? Halamshiral can hardly make any sense with anyone but noble human!

That's especially hard for someone who'd read the 'Masked Empire' beforehand. There's no way the court would've accepted an Elf, not to mention that I'd really love to know where the Dalish warrior could possibly learn the court dances. Dancing with the female dwarf looks even more ridiculous, though.

 

Every single bit of story suggests that rest of the races were added in progress, where only the humans had  been considered originally. I'm happy that they had removed 'becoming the Divine' option (at least). 

 

I agree with the quest Wicked Eyes and Hearts quest. Unless you're a human, knowing how to dance/play the game doesn't make much sense for the other races.

[Clockwork_Wings]

I almost wonder if what they're trying to do, whether on purpose or not, is to have each race have a game. 

 

One could argue humans get the starring role in DAO because of Loghian's right hand man having set off your hero's journey, plus the option to crown yourself monarch.  Many say that they feel closer to the story in 2 as a mage, because the mage vs. templar thing directly impacts them (although I still don't understand why, if Meredith was a crazy as Varric said, she was fine letting an apostate set up nobility in Hightown.  Seems against her nature).  DAI got elves and elven lore.  Perhaps 4 will deal with the qunari invasion, and then being a qunari (and hopefully if they bring back multiple choice origins, whether one is a qunari or a tal-vashoth or vashoth) will carry more weight, and then 5 will bring back dwarves, dwarven history, darkspawn, Sandal, the remaining six magisters, and the Architect. 

 

I'd be okay with that.

[Violetbliss]

I'm pretty sure they made it a bit less human-centric due to having to play a human in DA2 for story reasons. That said, it definitely has a lot of high points for elves, and Qunari has a very nice outsider feel to it when you play. I am unsure about the dwarves but my initial feeling is they lagged behind a bit this time; correct me if i'm wrong you passionate dwarf player!

[EmissaryofLies]

If you want to be disappointed and go out on a low note, sure.

[javeart]

Though I agree that the winter palace mission is another example of the story being designed specifically for a human, I have to say that assuming that Josehpine or Leliana gave you some lessons on how to interact with the nobility or how to dance, it's no such a big deal, at least for me 

[stonerbishop]

I'm pretty sure they made it a bit less human-centric due to having to play a human in DA2 for story reasons. That said, it definitely has a lot of high points for elves, and Qunari has a very nice outsider feel to it when you play. I am unsure about the dwarves but my initial feeling is they lagged behind a bit this time; correct me if i'm wrong you passionate dwarf player!

Yes, we dwarves got shafted in content.
More please Bioware

[stonerbishop]

Though I agree that the winter palace mission is another example of the story being designed specifically for a human, I have to say that assuming that Josehpine or Leliana gave you some lessons on how to interact with the nobility or how to dance, it's no such a big deal, at least for me

For "the game", I think ALL needed lessons. The human is not orlesian. She is a marcher.
Dancing is not the providence of humans.

I think all races probably needed/received prebriefings

[ThreeF]

For "the game", I think ALL needed lessons. The human is not orlesian. She is a marcher.
Dancing is not the providence of humans.

I think all races probably needed/received prebriefings

 

IQ is nobility. Historically in rl it wasn't  that strange for a french noble to know what dances were popular at english court and v/v and know how to dance them, it was a matter of fashion, diplomacy and etiquette.

[Zem_]

For "the game", I think ALL needed lessons. The human is not orlesian. She is a marcher.

 

A Marcher noble.  Presumably he/she would not need lessons in dancing or courtly manners.  I imagine the Free Marches are looked down upon a bit by proper Orlesians, but it's not like they are barbarians.    Josephine even mentions early on that it's a plus that the Inquisitor is from a noble family (in terms of gaining support with Orlesian nobility) though not as much as if he/she were from a more prominent Orlesian family, of course.

[LadyJaneGrey]

*snip*

Also: I don't think they look anorexic. There's plenty of people in real life that it's just naturally skinny.

+1 to this. I'm much closer to an elf build than a human build, and having the elves being flippantly dismissed as eating disorder victims is getting really old.

Back to the topic: Both my Dalish and human Inquisitors fit well with the narrative. As much as I loved my dwarves in Origins, I'm having a hard time seeing how a dwarf would click as well.

[Daerog]

It's another species/race, one can dismiss their build in that fashion. They are very bony, and would have preferred the elf to be a bit more like Sera, but whatever, an elf is not a human.

 

 

I prefer my Loyalist Knight-Enchanter walkthrough, but I am enjoying a Dalish walkthrough.

 

However, while the qunari isn't as connected, I find that to be a good thing, too. As a qunari mercenary, you are an outsider, you are a wild card with no dog in the fight or a bias background. The dwarf is a little connected due to lyrium smuggling, but the dwarf is okay.

[omgodzilla]

It's confirmed by the design notes regarding Flemeth. She gives her power to Solas knowing that if she doesn't he'll likely kill her anyway for it beacuse his mission is that imorptant to him. 

 

 

Solas said he was too weak to open his orb. How could he strong enough to murder Flemeth? If he can kill Flemeth, he should be able to solo every high dragon in the game. Unless the bastard was just holding himself back the entire time. Ugh...now, I hate him even more 

[Tashash]

@simpatikool:  Myself as well.  I always play as an elf if given the chance and I'm glad it was confirmed that Solas took Flemeth's power and not that Flemeth took over Solas.  I think Elves and Elven history need some attention.  IMO because of my elf thing!

 

Oooh, oooh, when/where did that get confirmed please? 

[Iakus]

A Marcher noble.  Presumably he/she would not need lessons in dancing or courtly manners.  I imagine the Free Marches are looked down upon a bit by proper Orlesians, but it's not like they are barbarians.    Josephine even mentions early on that it's a plus that the Inquisitor is from a noble family (in terms of gaining support with Orlesian nobility) though not as much as if he/she were from a more prominent Orlesian family, of course.

Thus the Trevelyan has a higher  starting court approval score than any others.

 

But the human is still only a minor noble from a rather "rustic" region of Thedas.  And is barely considered a "proper noble"

[coldflame]

While Elves does add a unique flavour to the story(especially if you romanced/are friends with Solas), humans once again seem more relevant to the plot thanks to the whole Herald of Andraste/chantry deal. Makes since though since humans where originally the only race planned, even the human Inquisitor attendance at the conclave is more relevant. Whereas everyone else was a spy or bodygaurd. Quarai and Dwarves(especially) seem tacked on.

 

Inquisition was written as a human story, the game got pushed back a year to add races.

 

The rumour was, the original protagonist of DA:I was supposed to be Hawke but since DA2 was such a disaster (a lot of people ended up wanting to kill hawke), bioware changed it to a new protagonist

[DuskWanderer]

Disagree: Humans get plenty of issues, and the issue of the Herald of Andraste as a human makes more sense, since they, not the Dalish, believe in the Maker. The Adamant subplot is far more important to humans than it is to elves. 

 

The game needs more dwarf love, though. It's like they only threw in the dwarves as a callback. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Yes, Elven Inquisitors do fit the story more. However, I am not really interested in playing them since they look like anorexic underfed sticks. I have to end up doing a lot of mental gymnastics to play them as warriors or heavy armor wearers or even as Knight Enchanters. Ever seen an anorexic Jedi before ?

[Hazegurl]

A Marcher noble.  Presumably he/she would not need lessons in dancing or courtly manners.  I imagine the Free Marches are looked down upon a bit by proper Orlesians, but it's not like they are barbarians.    Josephine even mentions early on that it's a plus that the Inquisitor is from a noble family (in terms of gaining support with Orlesian nobility) though not as much as if he/she were from a more prominent Orlesian family, of course.

Also, the human noble has special dialouge mentioning missing "the game" and how the ball reminded him of back home.

[ElementalFury106]

Actually I feel most of the game favors playing as human, as we live up to the whole "Herald of Andraste" name. Elves do get a very nice surprise towards the late game. Overall I feel the game offers more to Human and Elf players than to Dwarf or Qunari players. Still, it's always fun to play as everyone.