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[Jestina]

A city elf would have probably made more sense, and I prefer them to the Dalish.

[RepHope]

The game mostly works better with a human. It's only when you reach the Temple of Mythal that being an elf becomes a bit more relevant. Otherwise since the game mostly focuses on the human-centric Andrastian faith, human Inqs tend to have a larger stake in it.

[stop_him]

Everyone has their own opinion and will find some way to rationalize it. 

 

That being said, I'm just glad that Bioware returned to giving the player the chance to create their own PC.

 

I resented Hawke for being human, and I kill him/her all of the time in the Fade regardless of who the Warden is. DA2 was a failure because it had none of the charm that DAO had--including real character customization. I don't really care which origin or Inquisitor has the "best" back story--however you want to define "best." I want to role play a new experience each time. I can fill in the gaps myself. 

[The Mistress]

To be honest, it may seem like the Dalish fit in to the storyline well, but it's only because of the tie-in with elven artifacts and the last third of the main storyline (while some may consider it half, I wouldn't say it was). Yes, you get the chance to completely throw down the whole idea of being a Herald and leading the Inquisition "for the elves", but the game has a nicer feel to it if played with a human Inquisitor (what with all the Andrastianism). I won't deny that BioWare fit in a lot of nice content exclusively for the Dalish, but having otherwise identical paths to non-elves doesn't really give it a plus or a minus. (Plus, there's this point where the Dalish Mage, at one point, tells someone they spent some time at the Ostwick circle. I mean, really? BioWare, pls!)

Now, if we were talking dwarves... they're a little less on the 'relevant' scale for this game and feel a little more shoehorned in, if you ask me. Though, I've mainly only played humans and elves so far, so my judgment on that might not be the best.

[xnarcosysx]

While Elves does add a unique flavour to the story(especially if you romanced/are friends with Solas), humans once again seem more relevant to the plot thanks to the whole Herald of Andraste/chantry deal. Makes since though since humans where originally the only race planned, even the human Inquisitor attendance at the conclave is more relevant. Whereas everyone else was a spy or bodygaurd. Quarai and Dwarves(especially) seem tacked on.

Inquisition was written as a human story, the game got pushed back a year to add races.

I think it's better they did that. No replay value to me otherwise. I want to see multiple sides and different perspectives to the same story.

[LobselVith8]

A city elf would have probably made more sense, and I prefer them to the Dalish.

 

I don't see how an Andrastian elf would have made "more sense". A Dalish, Carta dwarf, or Vashoth all have reasons to want to save the world from an apocalyptic cataclysm that threatens everyone. I'm also not certain that we needed another Andrastian background, particularly when we were limited to playing as a religious Andrastian in the previous game. I think it's about time that we explored the other cultures of Thedas, and not simply focus on the Andrastian human culture and perspective.

 

Unfortunately, Inquisition suffers from not adequately accomodating the racial perspectives of the different perspectives of the racial background - Lavellan will ask Morrigan who Mythal is, while Cadash is completely oblivious to the inner workings of the carta and handling lyrium in dialogue with Branka; both examples show that the non-human is basically regarded as though he (or she) was an Andrastian human. Perhaps a little less focus on the Andrastian human perspective would have helped immeasurably.

[Zem_]

But the human is still only a minor noble from a rather "rustic" region of Thedas.  And is barely considered a "proper noble"

 

They're not goat herders, for goodness sakes.  Even in the Ferelden noble origin of DA:O the HoF's mother is talking about the Couslands attending Orlesian balls and such.  In DA:I, Dorian, Cassandra, and Josephine all seem to have heard of the Trevelyan family as well.  They are rich people and they do rich people things like attending each others' parties, dancing, gossiping, inter-marrying and otherwise playing "the game".  Sure, there's always differing rank and the highest of high society Orlesians are tops in Orlais (unsurprisingly) but it is in no way difficult to believe that the Trevelyan inquisitor isn't totally comfortable at an Orlesian dance.  Much more difficult to believe that any of the others are, which is what sort of makes some of the other races seem a bit tacked-on.

 

In my opinion, elves might be more relevant to some of the later game reveals, but for the bulk of the game they seem just about as out of place as the other non-humans.

[SolNebula]

As much as I love elves and Dalish clans, I have to admit that aside from Solas and the Mythal temple quest playing as a human in this game feels more natural. The Inquisition is an Andrastian organization with clear ties with the Chantry and human politics. I doubt humans would follow the orders of a Dalish elf.....it too much of a conflict to be believable. Maybe the next game....

[stonerbishop]

Thus the Trevelyan has a higher starting court approval score than any others.

But the human is still only a minor noble from a rather "rustic" region of Thedas. And is barely considered a "proper noble"

And I don't see the human noble being that we'll versed in the game. Dancing, sure, but lots of people dance. Do we have any codex that says elf dancing or dwarf dancing is completely different?

My point is that the inq. Regardless of race needs briefings pre masquerade

Also, the Inquisitor is a second child and may not have had the "how to dance orlesian" class....

[stonerbishop]

The human stars with higher approval because the orlesians are racists

[Majestic Jazz]

The game mostly works better with a human. It's only when you reach the Temple of Mythal that being an elf becomes a bit more relevant. Otherwise since the game mostly focuses on the human-centric Andrastian faith, human Inqs tend to have a larger stake in it.

Well considering that elven lore/elven Gods all predate humans and that magic is something that originated with elves, I believe now that the story is less centered around Andraste/Maker/Chantry and more around how the events/conflicts of elven gods has put Thedas in the position it is in today.

Example, the Black/Golden City could actually be Arlathan....

I believe DA has more of an elven touch than what you may want to give credit for.

[stonerbishop]

So, you head cannon that it is more important to the dalish inquisitor? What if your dalish doesn't give a flying fk about elven culture/lore

[Fredward]

Sure, in some respects definitely. Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts felt much more personal for instance. The slant towards elven history and the stripping away of all the Dalish hold dear provides great opportunity for headcanon Inquisitor growth. It's somewhat disappointing that that remains headcanon only though, I really missed the opportunity to express outrage after the Well of Sorrows. Or to go 'well... ****' after meeting AN ELVEN GODDESS. And the Temple of Mythal almost had me quitting with the way my elf would be so impossibly ignorant one moment and then tell humorous stories of his clan and their relation to the gods the next. Really, really  frustrating.

 

But overall I think my canon Inquisitor shall be an elf. Even though I'm now quite enjoying, despite the wonky cinematics and lack of armor, a qunari playthrough. How relevant elves are to the plot and whether or not that's a good thing I think is more relative.

[Mocksie]

Like most others here, I think Trevelyan human fits the story the most, specifically a mage. A human ex-circle mage would be the most likely one to be at the conclave in the first place, and the game in general favors humans with the chantry-centered plot. It doesn't start getting "elfy" until the well of sorrows. 

 

And even when the game does start getting elf-centric by that point, I feel like an elven character doesn't have the option to be knowledgeable about those things. Why should my elven mage, who I intended to portray as very knowledgeable and smart, be required to ask Morrigan what Mythal and the Well of Sorrows is? At least humans get special dialogue centered around their noble family, and human mages get special dialogue about the mage-templar war.

 

But, with that said, elves are definitely second to humans in terms of relevance, and imo a female elf that romances Solas comes very close to fitting the story more given the epilogue. Qunari, and especially dwarves definitely feel like the outcasts of the race choices. 

 

I'm sure an elven character will be very relevant in future DLC or games though. 

[Aren]

By  definition Inquisitor= Human , Zelot,Lunatic,Ignorant,aggresive,  Herald of Andraste this profile is funny and perfect for DAI.

[synnerman]

I think my Dalish male mage worked on the first run because I actively rejected the Dalish upbringing at every opportunity, in my head becoming something of an apprentice to Solas. (With the new patch, I may replay that character. I had to jump through a lot of hoops to make the Dorian romance work after burning a lot of hours on bugged play). The temple of Mythal was a rapturous experience for that character because of the validation he finally felt.

My current run through is a human female mage. I am gong full on I AM THE CHOSEN ONE!  (Think the transformation sequence to "Oh Mighty Isis" and you get the idea... although I am sure she will do the Wonder Woman twirl too).  I am looking forward to going full fanatic.

[Addai]

My canon Inquisitor was always going to be a female Lavellan- I've found human nobles boring since Origins- but I was surprised and very happy that the role got so much plot central relevance in this game. Especially since Trevelyan is a pretty uninspiring character background.

[Vader20]

I have a hard time deciding which race fits the story better.... It's either human or elf that's for sure. The game has a lot of elven lore in it and if you play as an elf, you get elf specific dialogues, and even more if you're and elven mage which makes the game more interesting. If you love elves and mages, this might be the game for you.

 

The human noble mage seems to get some circle related dialogues, but I don't know about family related stuff. Some people said you get a few of those. I haven't done a full human noble mage run yet so I don't know how many times your backround gets mentioned but I have a real hard time playing anything that is not an elf in this game. I always seem to lose motivation playing as a human and find myself restarting as an elf.

 

Wicked Eyes and Hearts is a pro human place...100%. That's the only place where I felt that Lavellan does not fit at all. He/She is an "elf savage" after all... And I was disappointed by the fact that as a Trevelyan nobody seemed to mention my noble lineage.

 

So which one fits better ? For me it's the Elf Inquisitor because even though the central theme revolves around the Chantry and Andraste, the elven lore plays and will play a major role in the future and an elven character will have a better connection with the upcoming events.

[MikaelNovasun]

I played both a human male and a female Dalish, and felt that the female Dalish inquisitor made the better story. I also don't find being the "Herald of Andraste" more fitting for a human. At the start of the game there are a few rumors about Andraste being the one that was behind you but most people blame you  for the divine's death at that point. It isn't until you seal the breach and witness some of what occurred as the events bleed through the fade at the temple. Not only do you see it but your party and all the soldiers that came with Leliana. After sealing the breach people now see you as this chosen savior by Andraste due to first hand accounts of closing the breach. What I find humorous is you come to find out Andraste had no hand in your survival, but the story of your deeds as you progress furthers the common folks belief that you are the "Herald". The line that you can say to Cass about "that is how stories work" in regards to her becoming the right hand is so full of foreshadowing and irony. Even before the temple of Mythal the human belief system is already being called into to doubt. It is part of why I find playing a Dalish inquisitor who opposes chantry beliefs so satisfying.

 

In regards to the winter palace I always pick up the perk for noble lore/conversation options before hand. I tend to view that as Josie giving the inquisitor lessons on court etiquette.

[Antergaton]

Chapter 1 is about Mages and Templars (Mages can be human or elf, Templars mainly human), Chapter 2 is Grey Wardens (all races, even if you don't see many non-human grey wardens on this occasion) and Nobles (all human), Chapter 3 Elves....

 

... main villain a human darkspawn.

 

No, i wouldn't say it's about elves at all. You are picking on 2 minor plot points not directly connected to DA:I to specify that the game is primarily about a certain race.

[Heimdall]

Female Dalish with Solas romance felt like the most full story to me.

[WillieStyle]

I think every race except for a dwarf has some connection with the story, but I agree that the elf has a stronger connection to the late game plot. However, the human is most closely connected with the Andrastian part of the plot.

 

I'd like to think exploring the Hissing Wastes as a surfacer Dwarf would be a profound experience.  Coming to the surface was supposed to be the thing that cut  you from Dwarven tradition.  But here's an entire Thaig built on the surface.  By a Paragon no less.

[stonerbishop]

I think none of the races matter as more/less plot centric. All get the same dialog in 99% of the game. By some people's reasoning here, dwarf is the ideal warden from origins because orzammar is probably the longest area. I'm good with that but I bet most would disagree

The actual best/canon race is any that punches solas

[JadeDragon]

I think all races fit the story in there own way. Even Humans in my opinion fit more of the story that was told in this game. Though the last act had more elven influence I think instead of it being elf inquisitor fits the current story best I see it ass elves will take more center stage the next game story bioware tells for dragon age. I took it as a setup that elves will also play villain role in there next story which is something we havent had in the series yet. DA2 Act3 was the shortest act and it was a setup for the mage-templar war that we resolve in this game. To me Arbor wilds is the exact same way our current threat is Cory but we get hints and teasers to ancient elven lore and people, so if its DA4 or a DLC the next story I can see will mostly be about elves good and bad. This current story is mostly Human though.