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[Ieldra]

...is that our Inquisitors will likely go down in history as the "Herald of Andraste" and leaders of an organization that derives much of its power from faith, regardless of the fact that I used every opportunity to emphasize that I'm not anyone's Herald and that people should start believing in this world rather than the next. I'll end up strengthening Andrastianism even though my Inquisitor doesn't believe in the Maker, even though as a mage she has an axe to grind with the faith, and even though avoiding exactly that was one of my most important secondary goals.

 

Well, it's all in Bioware's hands now, and nobody has much of a say about their picture in the history books, but my Inquisitor is trying to be a good ruler and do well by all she's responsible for. It would be really nice if fate reciprocated and didn't let her truth vanish without trace from the world. 

[Melyanna]

I wonder how many times that happend to real historical figures: just being remembered for something completely different to what they were...
I see what you mean, but I think it's very effective at showing us how facts, history and legends can be so different it's sometimes dangerous.

[Darkly Tranquil]

That's the fate of historical figures, isn't it? To become symbols rather than people. And often they end up representing things they may not have personally chosen to represent, but which other people attribute to them.

[Navasha]

who knows...   The chantry still exists and having been knocked down a few pegs.    In a few hundred years time, I doubt anyone will remember anything much about it.   How much can anyone tell us about the split Catholicism had during the rise of protestant movement off of the top of their heads?

 

Besides, I still am willing to bet we are headed for Tevinter next.   Hence all the Chantry stuff of those Southern Thedas probably won't matter much.

[NRieh]

Many believe that Hawke is one fully to blame for the Mage Rebellion, I believe that Cass' point ov view in DA2 pretty much represented the 'common knowledge', regardless of his/her real personality and intentions.

[papercut_ninja]

I will have the shaperate scholars transferred to my inquisition...they´ll get the story right...

[Darkly Tranquil]

I will have the shaperate scholars transferred to my inquisition...they´ll get the story right...

Now I have this mental image of a team of dwarven investigative reporters with notepads, tape recorders, horn rimmed glasses, and those tweed hats stereotypical reporters wear.

[Mirth]

People only have control over what they do in life, not how history remembers them. The game models that quite well.

The Elves are a good example.

[Ieldra]

I wonder how many times that happend to real historical figures: just being remembered for something completely different to what they were...
I see what you mean, but I think it's very effective at showing us how facts, history and legends can be so different it's sometimes dangerous.

Oh I know, I know. It is sad, however, to think of it all completely vanishing from the world. If my Inquisitor's truth survived as some form of secret history only known by a few scholars looked down on by others, that would be enough.

[EmissaryofLies]

...is that our Inquisitors will likely go down in history as the "Herald of Andraste" and leaders of an organization that derives much of its power from faith, regardless of the fact that I used every opportunity to emphasize that I'm not anyone's Herald and that people should start believing in this world rather than the next. I'll end up strengthening Andrastianism even though my Inquisitor doesn't believe in the Maker, even though as a mage she has an axe to grind with the faith, and even though avoiding exactly that was one of my most important secondary goals.

 

Well, it's all in Bioware's hands now, and nobody has much of a say about their picture in the history books, but my Inquisitor is trying to be a good ruler and do well by all she's responsible for. It would be really nice if fate reciprocated and didn't let her truth vanish without trace from the world. 

 

Likely? It is a certainty. 

 

It's clearly something that the Andrastians want and something that Bioware wants for their games.

 

They'll take a heathen ox-man, a savage elf, an alcoholic midget, just as long as they can beat their chests, bask in their delusional superiority, and claim that the Maker did it.

 

It's the tragic flaw for me at this point in the franchise and why I miss being the Champ and being the Hero.

[yankblan]

Look at Jesus Christ; today we know he walked on water, turned water to wine, resurected Lazarus, and on and on... 

 

In reality he probably waited for the low tide, gave CPR to Lazarus and people probably drank waste water while stone out of their mind

[Ashagar]

Well its historically accurate with examples that are legion to back up that it happens repeatedly in real life and RL historical people are also often associated with saying or doing things they never did. Its hardly a tragic flaw but extremely realistic.

[Nefla]

You can bet they will be remembered as human as well regardless of their actual race.

[Mann42]

A hundred years later, hidden away in some lost ruin, a tome of history writtern by Cassandra will be found outlining the truth about the Herald of Andraste.

 

The tome will be summarily burnt by the Chantry faithful as heretical.

[EmissaryofLies]

The original story wasn't intended to have those race options to begin with. All of these layers and choices added on complicate matters. But fans insisted on choice, not even knowing the actual story. I think it would have turned out a little more presentable if people let writers do their job. 

 

With Hawke as the protagonist it could have worked; any other human and the game would have rightly been shat on.

 

It would have turned out more presentable if the writers had done their job better.

[ThelLastTruePatriot]

I wonder how many times that happend to real historical figures: just being remembered for something completely different to what they were...
I see what you mean, but I think it's very effective at showing us how facts, history and legends can be so different it's sometimes dangerous.

 It happens often and will continue that way sadly. Legend takes over facts, we see this in our own world. It happens even when we have evidence to the contrary because people love the legend and not the facts.  The individual takes a backseat to said legend and it becomes much bigger than they are. It kinda makes you think though, about the legend surrounding andraste herself. That perhaps she was just a woman, much like the inquisitor is just a man or woman, who was thrust into an extraordinary circumstance. History elevated her into divinity, perhaps against her will, much like your inquisitor possibly

 

 For me though, I think the most disappointing part is that even if you accept that you may be the herald of andraste, you are quickly told NOPE, it was just a  freak accident and a spirit impersonating Justinia saved you.

[Nefla]

Either that or forgotten like Shartan.

True, possibly with Cassandra upheld by history as the one who sealed the breach and stopped Corypheus.

[leaguer of one]

How do you think Solas and Andraste feels about how they are put down in history. It's your turn now.