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One mage for each element?


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Alsedexus

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Is it advisable to have a dedicated mage companion for each elemen (frost, lightning, fire) and then perhaps one "dedicated spirit mage"? I went on and specced Solas in a little bit of this and a little bit of that, and I'm starting to think that wasn't very wise.

 

This is askd as a non-mage inquisitor.



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VilniusNastavnik

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DementedSheep

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I'd say no, All your mages should have points in spirit for barrier at least and there really isn't much reason to truly specialise in one element over another. If you build them around a role you will likely end up far more heavily into elements that support that role but that's it. . 



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I'd say no, All your mages should have points in spirit for barrier at least and there really isn't much reason to truly specialise in one element over another. If you build them around a role you will likely end up far more heavily into elements that support that role but that's it. . 

i agree. all mages should get barrier and agro reduce talent. mix and match elements so one mage isnt completely gimped in a fight you come against where an element is not good. ie frost against despair demons. fire and necro synergize well together. the aoe skills from each tree combined to rift mage also works well. frost and spirit works well together. spirit and KE. i can keep going. 



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SetecAstronomy

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At the very least, give all your mages energy barrage. It's keyed to the staff's element.



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VilniusNastavnik

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I do not get why people say to get barrier.. I did not need it once on nightmare. 


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JaegerBane

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The only reason to have Mages dedicated to one element is for RP reasons. The schools themselves are widely inconsistent in terms of usefulness and each element tends to work poorly in isolation - this isn't Diablo 3. Add to the fact that no school is made up purely of must haves and there's no decent reason to specialise in element.

As for Barrier - it loses a lot of it's worth the later you go on, but it never totally becomes useless. KEs can ignore it as they'll generate it themselves, whereas high level rift mages can generally bank on avoiding damage entirely on non-bosses. Still... I have at least one team member have it on their quick bar.

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I used Solas as spirit/ice, since ice has less interesting actives. I made Viv pure lightning and Dorian pure fire; right down to the staff. I also give them each barrier and aggro reduction passives. I give them all fade step and the mana regen passive in ice. Plus their specs, of course.

This PT I flipped Viv and Dorian, partly because I find fire the least interesting of the three, and Necro is also least interesting spec of the three, boring combo. Also I wanted to throw static cage with one, and KE with the other.

Built this way, I mix and match depending on the region and the dragon. Ever since FFXII, I've become weary of making everyone the same/generic. That is what I liked about FFX, where everyone was really different, but could steal from another character certain threats depending on where you were on the sphere grid. Khimari in the middle could do whichever you wanted to borrow from.

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Working in the passives from each element will give your mages alot more diversity and staying power on longer fights, such as dragon and PD's. but you can still speecialise them for fire/ice/storm too.

 

I run a DW Rogue Dwarf and 3 mages as such and have found it very enjoyable.



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As JaegerBane said, if you want your mages to specialize in a single element for RP reasons, great. That's kinda what I do. But I treat it as a focus, not as an exclusivity. So, I'll give every mage barrier, energy barrage, and one offensive spell from each element, and then I'll choose their remaining spells from the element I've chosen for them. When I play mages myself, I spread it out, though.



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I do not get why people say to get barrier.. I did not need it once on nightmare. 

Getting barrier and the passives to superrcharge the mages spells by 50% can never be a bad thing..



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Alsedexus

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Well, my questions was for mage COMPANIONS when NOT playing as a mage inquisitor. Or do you spec all your mage companions that specific way?



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VilniusNastavnik

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Well, my questions was for mage COMPANIONS when NOT playing as a mage inquisitor. Or do you spec all your mage companions that specific way?

Yep. Slight variations depending on the character but yep. At least one spell from each tree with the passives.



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VilniusNastavnik

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Getting barrier and the passives to superrcharge the mages spells by 50% can never be a bad thing..

That passive Supercharges FIRE spells only. As someone who takes only one or two spells from each tree, makes that passive utterly useless since it would only be useful for when I want to give immolate another 50% damage.