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[Cure Optimism]

I've always wondered, why does the Alliance have its own section of space. I thought the Alliance acknowledged the Council's authority and therefore was part of Council Space itself. Why does it have its own name? 

[cap and gown]

Each Council race has their own section of space. There is the Turian Hierarchy (the Volus have been absorbed into the Turian empire), the Salarian Union, and Asari "space" (I don't think they have a name for it.) Non-Council races also have areas they control, like the Batarians.

[Cure Optimism]

It's called the Asari Republics. But on the galaxy map none of them are labelled. It's just under "Outer Council Space" and "Inner Council Space", it made me wonder why the Alliance isn't part of that whole thing as well since they acknowledge the Council's authority supposedly.Or am I mistaken in thinking Humans are a Council race? And yet, on the wikia page it says "Among the Citadel races, the Alliance is considered a sovereign nation and no other species has right of oversight into Alliance affairs.". Perhaps it has more to do with the amount of areas the Alliance has claimed so that necessitates their own giant label on the Galaxy map or something.

 

Here's the map: http://th06.devianta...ert-d5u3tvb.png

[cap and gown]

I always thought the Asari Republics was referring to Thessia itself, and not all their colonies as well, but now that you mention it, you are probably right. Its just that when you do Samara's recruitment mission, everyone talks about how you never see Justicars outside of "Asari space."

[capn233]

The game is human centric, that's why the ME3 map looks like it does.  But the serious answer was probably that they didn't want to have too many different sectors for the Galaxy at War calculation.

 

The block occupied by Alliance Space in ME3 is basically part of the Attican Traverse, the Skyllian Verge and also includes the former Batarian Hegemony Space.

[Valmar]

I recall talking about this subject in a past topic a while back so forgive me if I lazily copy/paste. The context may not be perfect but... still works:

 

"Factor in the detail that the council has strict policies against activating relays. Humans didn't. It makes sense we 'discovered' and claimed a nice chunk of space outside our home. No other species was willing to explore those relays due to the council restrictions. The galaxy map could and likely is just a small portion of a much bigger connected system of relays. Imagine all the relays never activated, all the gateways to other regions of space that are just sitting out there doing nothing.

 

I can see political pressure being a cause of Alliance keeping that section of discovered space themselves rather than being absorbed into Council Space. Blame it on the turians. Lol."

 

Also keep in mind how young and new humanity is to the rest of the galaxy. It's possible that in the coming centuries they will merge their borders, as it were. All that being said though, we're probably taking it a bit too literally. Even the wiki mentions  that it's a misnomer. Afterall the Batarian space is within the 'Earth Alliance Space'. 

[Ashevajak]

The answer to all lore questions is always "space magic".  Always.

[Cure Optimism]

So what I am getting is that the Alliance pretty much just claimed that territory even though it comprises most of Batarian space, called it Alliance space and they acknowledge the Council and co-operate with them despite the fact they aren't fully merged with the Council Space yet since they're newcomers. So they are pretty much a part of that whole shindig already whilst still maintaining a half-assed independence.

[cap and gown]

The Council did give humanity the right to settle the Attican Traverse, apparently as a way to stabilize the region. Reading between the lines, the Council wanted humans as buffer between the Terminus and themselves.

[capn233]

So what I am getting is that the Alliance pretty much just claimed that territory even though it comprises most of Batarian space, called it Alliance space and they acknowledge the Council and co-operate with them despite the fact they aren't fully merged with the Council Space yet since they're newcomers. So they are pretty much a part of that whole shindig already whilst still maintaining a half-assed independence.

 

No, Bioware just called it that when they had to name 5 zones.  Alliance didn't have any claim to the Batarian systems, nor would they have had any way to defend them anyway since it was really Reaper controlled space in ME3.

 

I don't think you should read too much into the galaxy map outside of simply zones for galactic readiness.  It is for gameplay, not really for navigation.

 

The only territory that would have been possibly disputed as Batarian that the Alliance claimed was part of the Skyllian Verge, but that was before the events of ME1 and resulted in the Skyllian Blitz.

 

The wiki claims Kite's Nest and Viper Nebula are part of the Skyllian Verge, although both were clearly Batarian through ME1 and ME2.  Other clusters would have been Petra Nebula and Armstrong Nebula.

[Valmar]

Well, another thing to consider perhaps, is that we view the game and indeed even the very codex from the perspective of an alliance soldier. All the information presented towards us is done so from the perspective of Alliance. With that in mind its not too surprising they make note of which space is 'theirs'. If viewed from a turian perspective we might see sections called "Hierarchy Space". The asari mention that justicar's are rarely seen outside 'asari space' so that could be an indication that they put labels on the space aswell.

 

From an alliance standpoint they don't necessarily see them all as individuals, they see them as the council. Asari space, turian space, salarian space, none of this matters to them because they're all aliens and all council races. It's essentially all council space regardless of what sections are mostly held by what particular species. Council Space could just be a very broad term the alliance uses to represent space occupied by council species without necessarily being specific to what one. Human's are very good at grouping people together in "us vs them" ways, afterall.

 

I suppose one explanation for why batarian space is included is because the batarians are essentially wiped out in ME3. So we call dibs. LOL

[capn233]

Yes I agree that would be a reasonable explanation for most of the map.  May just be human convention or custom for referring to those clusters.

[Fixers0]

Back in Mass Effect 1, Eden Prime bordered on the Terminus systems, Now it's well within Alliance space. Apparently, much of space that was Attican traverse or Skyllian Verge in the first game has been conquerd by the Alliance, either that or the writers just screwed up once again.. Going from the map posted earlier in this thread Only the Local cluster and the Arcuturus stream would be actual Alliance territory in a consistent setting.  

[Arcian]

I've always wondered, why does the Alliance have its own section of space. I thought the Alliance acknowledged the Council's authority and therefore was part of Council Space itself. Why does it have its own name? 

Because ****** sapiens is so f***ing special, that's why.

 

EDIT: REALLY, BIOWARE? REALLY? We're not allowed to spell out the name of the human species anymore?!

[Valmar]

Because ****** sapiens is so f***ing special, that's why.

 

EDIT: REALLY, BIOWARE? REALLY? We're not allowed to spell out the name of the human species anymore?!

 

Yeah, that's pretty gay.

[Cure Optimism]

Well, another thing to consider perhaps, is that we view the game and indeed even the very codex from the perspective of an alliance soldier. All the information presented towards us is done so from the perspective of Alliance. With that in mind its not too surprising they make note of which space is 'theirs'. If viewed from a turian perspective we might see sections called "Hierarchy Space". The asari mention that justicar's are rarely seen outside 'asari space' so that could be an indication that they put labels on the space aswell.

 

From an alliance standpoint they don't necessarily see them all as individuals, they see them as the council. Asari space, turian space, salarian space, none of this matters to them because they're all aliens and all council races. It's essentially all council space regardless of what sections are mostly held by what particular species. Council Space could just be a very broad term the alliance uses to represent space occupied by council species without necessarily being specific to what one. Human's are very good at grouping people together in "us vs them" ways, afterall.

 

I suppose one explanation for why batarian space is included is because the batarians are essentially wiped out in ME3. So we call dibs. LOL

That seems like the best possible explanation. Otherwise I wouldn't understand why Alliance Space has it's own label despite Humans being a council race themselves.  I just found this quote from the Wiki "Citadel space is an unofficial term referring to any region of space controlled by a species that acknowledge the authority of the Citadel Council. At first glance, it appears this territory encompasses most of the galaxy. In reality, however, less than 1% of the stars have been explored.

 

So yeah, I think you hit the nail right on the head. So Council Space is just a broad term to describe all the different governments of council species. including the Alliance. And the only reason it is singled out on the map is because you yourself are an Alliance soldier.