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#651
KainD

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After Adamant, who would NOT be pissed when dealing with the likes of Erimond?

 

People that don't have care about other peoples lives. Inquisitor alive? No reason to get pissed. Did Erimond do something wrong? No, not really, just fighting for the other side.



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Sigh.. 

 

Ok, example - Lord Erimond judgement, just because that's the last video I watched about Dragon age today. 

 

1) Inquisitor has a pissed off tone to matter what option you choose.

2) Inquisitor believes that Erimond has done something wrong, no matter what option you choose. 

 

Clearly indicating that Inquisitor has morals. 

 

You can be pissed just because he tried to kill you and you ended up in the Fade, Josephine even suggests this by saying "not to mention what you have suffered in the Fade". It can be completely personal.

 

IQ saying that "I'm struggling to understand how judging you can make up for everything that happen" can be easily taken as "I'm struggling to understand how judging you can make up for everything that happen to me"



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People that don't have care about other peoples lives. Inquisitor alive? No reason to get pissed. Did Erimond do something wrong? No, not really, just fighting for the other side.

 

So sociopaths, basically? Even sociopaths would probably be pissed at Erimond, given that he nearly got them killed and caused the whole Fade extravaganza that endangered them & nearly got them killed......again. Did Erimond do something wrong? Oh, idk, I guess intentionally condemning all of Thedas to an endless Blight is......a minor thing?

 

To not care about other people's lives is one thing. To shrug off being nearly killed twice is a bit.....much?



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You can be pissed just because he tried to kill you and you ended up in the Fade, Josephine even suggests this by saying "not to mention what you have suffered in the Fade". It can be completely personal.

 

IQ saying that "I'm struggling to understand how judging you can make up for everything that happen" can be easily taken as "I'm struggling to understand how judging you can make up for everything that happen to me"

 

I just discovered that I can use the anchor to enter the fade physically, neutralized Cory's wardens AND demons. I should be pissed? I should be happy dancing. Where's my option of not being pissed?



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I just discovered that I can use the anchor to enter the fade physically, neutralized Cory's wardens AND demons. I should be pissed? I should be happy dancing. Where's my option of not being pissed?

You are ok with people trying to kill you?



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So sociopaths, basically? 

 

Basically. 

 

Did Erimond do something wrong? Oh, idk, I guess intentionally condemning all of Thedas to an endless Blight is......a minor thing?

 

That's not my problem, my problem is Cory. There are many interesting things about the blight, it's not necessary bad for the Inquisitor personally. 

 

To not care about other people's lives is one thing. To shrug off being nearly killed twice is a bit.....much?

 

Not much at all, Inquisitor lives on the edge every single day. 



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You are ok with people trying to kill you?

 

Depends what you mean by that. If someone tried to kill me, I'd try to kill them. But I don't judge them for their actions, don't hold any grudges. 



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Depends what you mean by that. If someone tried to kill me, I'd try to kill them. But I don't judge them for their actions, don't hold any grudges. 

Don't click on the throne?



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The worst part about the Erimond judgment is that you can't even make him tranquil unless you're a mage...



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Don't click on the throne?

 

Should I buy like a guide of things you don't want to click on if you want to roleplay a certain personality? 



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The worst part about the Erimond judgment is that you can't even make him tranquil unless you're a mage...

 

You can. Need to buy mage requisitions or something.. don't remember, it's in the inquisition perks. 



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You can. Need to buy mage requisitions or something.. don't remember, it's in the inquisition perks. 

 

I had the arcane knowledge perk on my warrior and rogue and didn't get the option to use tranquility in either case. I'm not sure what other perk you might be referring to.



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Should I buy like a guide of things you don't want to click on if you want to roleplay a certain personality? 

You have an in game guide, no need to buy one. So you don't want to judge people? Before any judgement begins Josephine explains how things will work with the throne. Don't want to judge? Don't judge.



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You have an in game guide, no need to buy one. So you don't want to judge people? Before any judgement begins Josephine explains how things will work with the throne. Don't want to judge? Don't judge.

 

There is a difference between judging ( decide (a case) in a law court. give a verdict on (someone) in a law court. ) and judging ( form an opinion or conclusion about. ) 

I'm not against deciding peoples fate, I'm against being a whiny little b while I do it. 



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There is a difference between judging ( decide (a case) in a law court. give a verdict on (someone) in a law court. ) and judging ( form an opinion or conclusion about. ) 

I'm not against deciding peoples fate, I'm against being a whiny little b while I do it. 

90% of the cases tried to kill you, 10% commuted some amoral act. Why would you care to decide their fate?

 

There is very small chance any game will allow anyone/everyone to play 100% the way you envision your character (unless you make one yourself), doesn't mean that you can't have some success with it. No game can deliberately predict the choice of all players. DAI might not satisfy 100% the definition of your amorality, but it doesn't mean that in doesn't allows it at all.



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90% of the cases tried to kill you, 10% commuted some amoral act. Why would you care to decide their fate?

 

There is very small chance any game will allow anyone/everyone to play 100% the way you envision your character (unless you make one yourself), doesn't mean that you can't have some success with it. No game can deliberately predict the choice of all players. DAI might not satisfy 100% the definition of your amorality, but it doesn't mean that in doesn't allows it at all.

 

I'm not saying it's supposed to be 100% how I want it to be, but the morality vs lack of morals stands out to me a lot more than morality vs different morality. Second one is presented in the game. 



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I had the arcane knowledge perk on my warrior and rogue and didn't get the option to use tranquility in either case. I'm not sure what other perk you might be referring to.

arcane knowledge perk is for keeping alexius as a researcher. making tranquils requires you to be a mage.



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arcane knowledge perk is for keeping alexius as a researcher. making tranquils requires you to be a mage.

 

Yeah, that's what I thought. Some people are under the impression that getting the perk gives you access to the tranquility option as other classes. 



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First drop the "stupid evil" there is no such thing.
Second, you could have different parties and organisations that you could work with depending on your alignment.
If there are party members that want to kill you for your actions - kill them and move along.

I'm sorry but, yes in fact many of the evil choices in Bioware games(KOTOR, ME-ME 3, and DA:O) could easily be considered and summed up as "Stupid Evil".

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The arcane perk should allow you to make mages tranquil. not sure why it doesn't.

 

If your mage allies want to whine about it just have some wartable missions to get them to fall in line.



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The arcane perk should allow you to make mages tranquil. not sure why it doesn't.

 

If your mage allies want to whine about it just have some wartable missions to get them to fall in line.

 

Except it doesn't. You have to be a mage in order to make someone tranquil. I had the perk on my warrior and rogue and wasn't able to do it. The worst part is I can't even think of a single logical reason why the perk doesn't allow warriors and rogues to use tranquility. Seems like Bioware was afraid of controversy or something. Whatever the reason, its annoying as hell. I never play as a mage so I'll never see this option. 



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Except it doesn't. You have to be a mage in order to make someone tranquil. I had the perk on my warrior and rogue and wasn't able to do it. The worst part is I can't even think of a single logical reason why the perk doesn't allow warriors and rogues to use tranquility. Seems like Bioware was afraid of controversy or something. Whatever the reason, its annoying as hell. I never play as a mage so I'll never see this option. 

 

...Um...that's exactly what I was saying? *very confused*

 

I didn't say it did. I said it should and I'm not sure why it doesn't.



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...Um...that's exactly what I was saying? *very confused*

 

I didn't say it did. I said it should and I'm not sure why it doesn't.

 

My bad. I thought you were implying that my game might be bugged or something. 


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#674
Sylvius the Mad

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You can totally be evil in DAI.  Evil is all about your motives.



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You can totally be evil in DAI.  Evil is all about your motives.

 

Not really.  If you don't believe me then try.  You really can't.