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The Silver Shield, the Seekers or the Order


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The Templars as an independent order doesn't sit well with me. Having no higher chain of command leaves them too prone to what happened with the defected Templars in DA:I. The Templar Order either exists under the same power as the Circles or not at all.

 

I'm not entirely opposed to the Seekers, but I'm also not sold on them, either.

 

Ideally the Templars from DA:I disband and join the Inquisition, or rejoin the recreated Order under Cass/Vivienne, depending on the ending.

 

I laughed my arse off when I found out if Hawke supports Templars on DA2 they turn on him and try to kill him. I was like lolololololol

 

People need to accept the inevitable truth, addicted people cannot police anything because they need policing themselves. Vivienne knows this, that's why she cuts their balls off and turn them into Tevinter Templars who take Lyrium but completely under control of a mage. Leliana knows it too.



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Wow you guys are just....wow. You can't accept that in my game I prefer it one way but attempts to convert me to your side.

Welcome to BSN...

You never really be part of it until someone said your choice suck, mine better.

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None, let Leliana disband them after they were all turned into red templars. All hail the College of Enchanters/ Leliana's version of the Bright Hand!

Considering what happened when the Templars had independence, I'd say the Silver Shield is the absolute worst option.

The exact same thing that happened when the mages had independence and yet, in the very same post, you praise the independent College.

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The exact same thing that happened when the mages had independence and yet, in the very same post, you praise the independent College.

 

* Divine approved college

 

The Silver shield are rebels. 



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I'm going to help break the mold and actually answer the OP instead of debating Divines. Again.

The Silver Shield sounds like a bunch of prejudiced renegades. So everything but them.


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The templars must remain , well they will in my endings at least , whether they are back in the circles or remain with the Inquisition doesnt matter but Thedas need knights who can fight magical corruption. 



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Leliana is the worst Divine tbh.

 

When Leliana told me what she'd do as Divine, I nope'd the hell out of there.  Especially if she remains hardened, she becomes some crazy Divine.  

 

Also where do people keep hearing about "The Silver Shield"?  Did I miss that name in game?  


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When Leliana told me what she'd do as Divine, I nope'd the hell out of there.  Especially if she remains hardened, she becomes some crazy Divine.  

 

Also where do people keep hearing about "The Silver Shield"?  Did I miss that name in game?  

 

It's the Templar version of the Bright Hand, but not as cool or progressive.

 

And Hardened Leliana might as well be Michael Corleone after taking over for Vitto (Justinia). Orlais and the Game have corrupted the Chantry itself. Cassandra is the only cure for it.



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It's the Templar version of the Bright Hand, but not as cool or progressive.

 

So...what's the Bright Hand? :P

 

Is this in the epilogue?  I think my Templars just stayed a part of the Inquisition...



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So...what's the Bright Hand? :P

 

Is this in the epilogue?  I think my Templars just stayed a part of the Inquisition...

 

http://forum.bioware...ves/?p=18289592



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Well, I'll be damned.  That sounds pretty cool.  

 

Though that "shadow war" doesn't sound too good.  



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Well, I'll be damned.  That sounds pretty cool.  

 

Though that "shadow war" doesn't sound too good.  

 

Mages fight among themselves if Cassandra is divine.



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Mages fight among themselves if Cassandra is divine.

 

No. It doesn't say mages. It says enemies. My assumption is that it's maleficarum. And please don't turn this into another Leliana debate it's getting pretty ****** old fast.


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Templars belong to the Inquistion, free of lyrium addiction. This is the only true victory. The Silver Shield will only lead to another war.



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I laughed my arse off when I found out if Hawke supports Templars on DA2 they turn on him and try to kill him. I was like lolololololol

Dont even remember me about this part, it was so badly wiritten, its like Bioware didnt even tried.

Either the Red Templars were very few to Cullen not have know about, but if they were few, Hawke wouldnt had to run because he had the entire Ciry Guard to protect him and he could have alerted Cullen about it, or almost the entire Order in Kirkwall was turned into Red Templars, they would be a threath to Hawke, since the numbers of Templars was higher than the numbers of City Guard, but Cullen would be so incompetent to let it happens, how Hawke, someone outside the order knew about it but Cullen dont? And if he knew why he didnt stop it? And why the Red Templars would attack Hawke?

 

 

Templars belong to the Inquistion, free of lyrium addiction. This is the only true victory. The Silver Shield will only lead to another war.

Lyrium is not a drug, it doenst cause them to go high or maje them have hallucinations, its needed for them to have Templars abilities, withouth lyrium they are common soldiers.



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Lyrium is not a drug, it doenst cause them to go high or maje them have hallucinations, its needed for them to have Templars abilities, withouth lyrium they are common soldiers.

 

Yes it is, and yes it does.



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Lyrium is not a drug, it doenst cause them to go high or maje them have hallucinations, its needed for them to have Templars abilities, withouth lyrium they are common soldiers.

 

Makes me wonder how many Templars would agree to becoming Seekers.  Templar powers and more, minus the addiction.  



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Makes me wonder how many Templars would agree to becoming Seekers.  Templar powers and more, minus the addiction.  

 

In my cannon PT most followed Cullen's lead and got off Lyrium. Some of them then joined the newly reformed Seekers, and some stayed with the Inquisition. Which I am pretty happy with. Mages definitely haven't had enough freedom up until this point, but trusting them to police themselves isn't a good option either.



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In my cannon PT most followed Cullen's lead and got off Lyrium. Some of them then joined the newly reformed Seekers, and some stayed with the Inquisition. Which I am pretty happy with. Mages definitely haven't had enough freedom up until this point, but trusting them to police themselves isn't a good option either.

 

I think that's what happened with me as well...god I wish I remembered my epilogue.  



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Yes it is, and yes it does.

Only after a lot of years of using it you get the nightmares and hallucinations, new soldiers dont suffer from it and they know about the effects, and its really not a drug. You dont use it to get high.

 

Makes me wonder how many Templars would agree to becoming Seekers.  Templar powers and more, minus the addiction.  

The Seekers dont have the Templars powers, Cassandra having the Templars spec is a story gameplay segregation.

In the first conversation with her, she says they have completely different powers, Seekers powers are being immune to possession, mind control and being able to burn the lyrium in Templars/Mage blood, they cant nulify magic and arent resistent to it like the Templars.



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I like to think that the Inquisition becomes the 'check on magic' everyone's talking about.

Because the thought of inquisition troops kicking in random people's doors is an amusing image to me.



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The Seekers dont have the Templars powers, Cassandra having the Templars spec is a story gameplay segregation.

In the first conversation with her, she says they have completely different powers, Seekers powers are being immune to possession, mind control and being able to burn the lyrium in Templars/Mage blood, they cant nulify magic and arent resistent to it like the Templars.

 

Hmm, I'll need to go talk to Cass in my new play through, I seem to remember her saying that they just had more abilities.  



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Seekers have all Templar abilities and initially taught them to the Templars. That's common knowledge.

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They no longer exist.


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They no longer exist.


Sure they do.

o.o They are just spread out.

Diminished is not non existent.