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#51
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Seekers have all Templar abilities and initially taught them to the Templars. That's common knowledge.

No they dont

around 14:30



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You took the wrong meaning from what Cassandra said. She's talking about the source of her power, not the powers themselves. Solas also says Seekers and Templars have similar abilities, and Cassandra doesn't deny it. Besides lyrium manipulation, they really aren't that different. Take a step back. Hate it when people link videos that contradict them.

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Sure they do.

o.o They are just spread out.

Diminished is not non existent.

 

As a power, as a significant party.



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You took the wrong meaning from what Cassandra said. She's talking about the source of her power, not the powers themselves. Solas also says Seekers and Templars have similar abilities, and Cassandra doesn't deny it. Besides lyrium manipulation, they really aren't that different. Take a step back. Hate it when people link videos that contradict them.

She says they habilities are entirely different, if you think they have the same habilities its ok, its not worth discussing it anyway



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As a power, as a significant party.


I'll await their return.

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Only after a lot of years of using it you get the nightmares and hallucinations, new soldiers dont suffer from it and they know about the effects, and its really not a drug. You dont use it to get high.

 

Lyrium, blue and red, produces a high, as per "Confessions of a Lyrium addict".



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You took the wrong meaning from what Cassandra said. She's talking about the source of her power, not the powers themselves. Solas also says Seekers and Templars have similar abilities, and Cassandra doesn't deny it. Besides lyrium manipulation, they really aren't that different. Take a step back. Hate it when people link videos that contradict them.

 

Yeah, it really just sounds like the Seekers are more powerful than the Templars and have a wider range of abilities.  

 

Even if they didn't, though, the ability to set the lyrium aflame in a mage is extremely useful for stopping them, so an Order of Seekers could be just as useful in keeping an eye on the mages.  



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I'll await their return.

 

You await the return of cowards and traitors?

 

For their own sake, any survivors should just "disappear" after the crisis, lest they be hanged by the Inquisition for their dereliction of duty.



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Lyrium, blue and red, produces a high, as per "Confessions of a Lyrium addict".

yaeh it seems you are right and I was wrong, still they knew what would happen to them, they arent tricked like the wardens do to the recruits.

Yeah, it really just sounds like the Seekers are more powerful than the Templars and have a wider range of abilities.  
 
Even if they didn't, though, the ability to set the lyrium aflame in a mage is extremely useful for stopping them, so an Order of Seekers could be just as useful in keeping an eye on the mages.

Well may e Im wrong in this account too, it would not be the first time.
Still think they have different abilities, Cassandra says they are enterily different.

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Your spitting on a thousand years of sacrifice and service and calling it a leash when it was a choice.

They stood because the world needed protection.

 

They stood because they were foolish enough to be the indentured servants of the chantry. Being delusional enough to believe your drug addition has a higher purpose does not make it true.



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This ending sounds deliciously awesome for "some" pro-mage playthroughs..

 

"They elect to remain with the Inquisition, unanimously and formally disbanding the Templar Order forever."

 

*whistle*


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One thing I wondered-is the ability to set the lyrium in someone's blood aflame limited to magic users?

By that I mean, could a Seeker make a non-magic user drink a lyrium potion--presumably the lyrium is distributed throughout the body--and then set the lyrium in their blood on fire as a method of torturing them?

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Why waste good lyrium when conventional torture methods works just as well against people without magical powers? 



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They stood because they were foolish enough to be the indentured servants of the chantry. Being delusional enough to believe your drug addition has a higher purpose does not make it true.


In this case it is true.

The order must exist and for it to exist there must be Templars.

They go to their duty willingly and it is mocked as personal weakness by those who know nothing of service and duty.

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You await the return of cowards and traitors?


Of course I will.

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One thing I wondered-is the ability to set the lyrium in someone's blood aflame limited to magic users?

By that I mean, could a Seeker make a non-magic user drink a lyrium potion--presumably the lyrium is distributed throughout the body--and then set the lyrium in their blood on fire as a method of torturing them?

 

Seems like a rather roundabout way to do it. If you really just want to set people's blood on fire that bad there's always blood magic.

 

 

Of course I will.

 

You harbor an almost Lulu-esque level of sentimentality towards the scum.



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Seems like a rather roundabout way to do it. If you really just want to set people's blood on fire that bad there's always blood magic.


Or you know good old fashion heat.

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The reason you'd want to do it because it would be simple, clean, and infinitely repeatable.

Something like heat would eventually result in nerve destruction, I would think, as well as disfiguration, which would be a minus if you were trying to keep the torture a secret.

And Seekers can't perform blood magic, so that's out.

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*puts hand up* Question!

 

Cassandra and the wiki says that Seekers are immune to possession and mind control, correct? What is doesn't say is whether their immune to general magic like Templars. Sure Cass has the spec for it, but that doesn't mean much since apparently Iron Bull is a Reaver whose never had dragon's blood. So, can they suppress magic or not?



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*puts hand up* Question!

 

Cassandra and the wiki says that Seekers are immune to possession and mind control, correct? What is doesn't say is whether their immune to general magic like Templars. Sure Cass has the spec for it, but that doesn't mean much since apparently Iron Bull is a Reaver whose never had dragon's blood. So, can they suppress magic or not?

 

Templars are not *immune* to magic, but according to Asunder, Seekers and Templars do share anti-magical abilities.