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[Obb42]

... does this have any impact? Does it ever get mentioned? Do those Dwarves at Halamshiral talk about little Trian Aeducan thrashing all the little Warrior Caste boys in training?

[thesuperdarkone2]

Nope. Another choice that won't matter. 

[Qun00]

Who's Mardy?

[Zetrial]

Who's Mardy?

 

Noble hunter in DA:O that you can sleep with as the Dwarf Noble origin.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Who's Mardy?

Noble hunter in DA:O that you can sleep with as the Dwarf Noble origin.

I get the feeling a lot of people haven't played through any Dwarves Origins at all. Sad. :C

[RobRam10]

I get the feeling a lot of people haven't played through any Dwarves Origins at all. Sad. :C

Suffering.

[Zetrial]

I get the feeling a lot of people haven't played through any Dwarves Origins at all. Sad. :C

 

The true heroes of Thedas shall forever be overlooked.

[AresKeith]

Nope. Another choice that won't matter. 

 

>Expecting every choice to matter

[Nefla]

I get the feeling a lot of people haven't played through any Dwarves Origins at all. Sad. :C

Tragic even, those were some damn awesome origins! (and I loved having my casteless made a paragon at the end for sending the gathered troops to the deep roads when they were done with the archdemon )

[Cypher0020]

Yeah....my sole male Warden slept with Mardy, an Morrigan for the ritual, but Leliana is his LI

 

So..........the boys are half brothers, princes, share dwarven blood, one is magical, one isn't.........

 

 

I think...that's sorta a BIG issue LOL

[Zetrial]

What I don't get is, why have things like "Did you f*ck Mardy?" and "Did you hook Cammen and Gheyna up?" in the keep, if it makes no difference?

 

There very well could with just some flavour text here or there that few have come across. Considering the only one to have flat out said there is no difference is darkone, there could be a faint mention only if you have a DN in Origins and a Dwarf in Inquisition *shrug*

Not every decision made is going to be of a world altering one and may only get the slightest mention in a letter or ambient conversation.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

What I don't get is, why have things like "Did you f*ck Mardy?" and "Did you hook Cammen and Gheyna up?" in the keep, if it makes no difference?

Like OP said it could be brought up again by anyone who has knowledge about what happen in Orzammar, as mere rumor about Dwarven Noble Warden's son, and the Dalish clan you met in DAO could show up again, it makes no difference in DAI but perhaps in the future game. Ah, well, maybe I expecting too much, but then why "Did you feed the prisoner at Ostagar" in the Keep, but not the fate of your companions in Awakening.

[Zetrial]

Yup, it would of even been nice if the inn in Redcliffe was given different names based on if Bella took over ownership. Warden's Rest if so Gull and Lantern if not. That would not have been so hard would it?

[Lorien19]

I get the feeling a lot of people haven't played through any Dwarves Origins at all. Sad. :C

I'm an elf player,but this was the best origin imho opinion...Although I became more attached to my castless dwarf,because who doesn't like good underdog stories!But dwarf noble was the best hands down.

[Ser Kilroy]

impact? no . a passing mention/reference maybe. not every choice will in the keep will be in DAI

[TeraBat]

What I don't get is, why have things like "Did you f*ck Mardy?" and "Did you hook Cammen and Gheyna up?" in the keep, if it makes no difference?

 

Camouflage.

 

The Keep asks you a lot of very detailed questions, to help hide the things which are really important. If it only asked you the broad outlines, then you'd know immediately that there was something up with the Legacy DLC and that it had a huge impact on Inquisition, because it was the only important choice. 

 

(And, for what it's worth, the Cammen question *does* come up - if you didn't sleep with Cammen and didn't hook him up with Gheyna, Imshael offers you to him as a virgin, but then takes it back after deciding you wouldn't want him anyway). 

[stop_him]

Ha, I vaguely remember this woman! My "worst case scenario" playthough was a dwarf noble. He slept with her, then refused to acknowledge his kid's birthright for the sole purpose of being a douche. I think my least favorite inquisitor this time around is a qunari male though, so at some point I'll continue the "king of all jerks" playthrough with one of those roided tumor faced beasts. LOL. 

[Red of Rivia]

I was wanting to ask this question, thank you for creating the topic, apparently in my dwarf save I have two children, one with Morrigan and one with Mardy. I want to know what happened to him. Sad.

[CuriousArtemis]

What I don't get is, why have things like "Did you f*ck Mardy?" and "Did you hook Cammen and Gheyna up?" in the keep, if it makes no difference?

Because during the Keep beta there were people clamoring for every little tiny insignificant choice to be mentioned in the Keep. It was very frustrating to watch.

[Zetrial]

It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't thing.
If they only carry things over relevant to the story of DA:I imagine the outrage when things like your wardens race or sex is completely ignored, or even the choices you made with allying with the elves or werewolves.
Those things don't affect the main story and all you get is some lines of text varying really.
Every choice may matter to a player, but not every choice will impact the game world significantly. So the best they can do is place, what most call, throw away lines in, else the game would never have been possible to make if every single choice had to have a significantly world altering and visible result.

 

Edit: Not on my phone now so I can add what I wanted to add much easier.

 

Realistically the choices we have made in the first 2 games have zero impact on how Inquisition plays, it is either all flavour text or a cameo from a returning character. There aren't really new merchants, items or anything of the like, so as to probably not handicap players whom make different choices. The most impacting choice really is Keiran, an entirely new NPC and motivation for a character. Even that choice isn't a major divergence on the base game, instead acknowledging a choice the players are able to make.

These little flavour texts, cameos or ambient conversation adds life to the world of Thedas and is part of what keeps many of us returning, even just a simple nod for a simple little choice can give satisfaction beyond the static game world.

Every life saved may not change the world, but it does change the world for that life saved.

 

Now it is also possible that the little choices that appear to not have any current acknowledgement could just mean most haven't seen it and documented it yet, or as some have said, preparing for future games. I think it would be a bit early to plan for future games and story before Inquisition was released, these choices were there before we could play. Like the companions fate from Awakening, they may come in for later games but aren't planned for anything related to Inquisition so there was no time constraints on it.

So it may be more likely they had storyboards for DLC in the works for Inquisition and current choices in the keep would reflect choices that could impact DLC released for Inquisition, as there would be time constraints unless they wanted people to have to restart to get choices added later to carry on over to DLC.

With that in mind, and I am competely pulling this out of my rear end, one of the DLC will have us heading down to Orzammar, given the amount of choices available for it already present. Maybe to try to track down Red Lyrium some more *shrugs*. Just the ramblings of a sky crazed Dwarf.

Modifié par Zetrial, 18 janvier 2015 - 11:53 .

[SpEcIaLRyAn]

I think people need to understand that overall their choices don't matter. Not to be a skeptic but they don't. Think about this way. If Bioware wanted to include true re-activity to any of our choices it would cost a lot ore resources to create it in game. Not to mention the story they want to tell could suffer because the narrative has so many branching plot threads.

 

Bioware games, thought I hate to admit it myself, haven't ever been about meaningful choices. It has always been how well is the illusion of choice. Carrying over choices from game to game is a very ambitious idea and I give Bioware credit for even attempting it. I believe thats one of the main reasons Mass Effect 3s ending was so poorly executed. If they truly took every single choice and showed true reactions to everything they would need a bigger budget. One that would allow them to execute all major choices at the very least in meaningful ways.

 

Now granted Inquisition did a lot better in this regard. I did feel like I was making an impact on the world at large. The choices from previous games, as some of you have noticed, only really add flavor to the world and make it feel less static.Inquisition did do well with the choices for the most part. However most of the major choices, such as who becomes the next divine or who you left in the fade will only have either a passing reference in a future title unless it is integral to the plot.