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#2801
MatrixGirl

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@Peregrinus

I agree with you 100% about W10 :-)

Apple OSX has had the same stuff for like 5 years now :-)

And Apple came out last year that all new OS are going to be free forever:-)

I got Maverick and Yosemite for free :-)

Now that Apple is the richest company in the world, Microsoft is number 4 everyone tries to copy them :/)

You are right about Linux also, they had those features for years also :-)

It is always a compliment to imitate the greats :-)

#2802
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Each of those GTX980 weight close to 2Kg each, that is 4 pounds for you non metric people :-)
Real heavy cards due to the massive heat sinks and cooling pipes :-)

#2803
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Anyone else here playing Darkest Dungeon?   I'm at week 26 now and my adventurers are all hitting level 3. The best part is that the 15 I have in my roster are still very much sane.  :) 



#2804
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Disturbedjim83

Each of those GTX980 weight close to 2Kg each, that is 4 pounds for you non metric people :-)
Real heavy cards due to the massive heat sinks and cooling pipes :-)

Those things were copper pipes too , weren't they?   :)



#2805
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@Peregrinus they are copper pipe with massive heat sink and a large metal plate in the back :-)

It is the reason why they run 30% cooler than the other GTX980 :-)

4.5 KG of video cards, and they are extremely long and thick :-)

@Essorance

Amazing video, I was telling people last week when it came out I said wait until Essorance gets a hold of that :-)

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Hello guys! Love for everyone! Kinda getting into the Windows discussion, the Windows 10 is the one coming with Directx12? And is real that Directx12 will increase up to 50 the performance? That can´t be true, right? 



#2807
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Nope not true :-)

They actually say that on older games like Dead Space 4 it is slower and games like DA2 won't even run on it :-)

Now DX12 is an API if someone does a great job at using it, you will get a performance increase, but 50% that is a bit much :-)

Hell after Bioware is finished with DX12 games will run probably 50% slower :-)

#2808
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Hello guys! Love for everyone! Kinda getting into the Windows discussion, the Windows 10 is the one coming with Directx12? And is real that Directx12 will increase up to 50 the performance? That can´t be true, right? 

It can indeed improve performance if the games are coded to do so.  It's an API just as mantle is.  It's all dependent on the developers to unlock it's full potential.  Also, your graphics hardware needs to support it. I'm pretty sure your 7750 is directx12 compatible.  Pretty much all cards that are GCN based like your card, all R9/R7 AMD cards, well as Nvidia Maxwell architecture cards. 



#2809
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And with news today that you may be able to install DX12 on Windows 7, it makes the update useless in my opinion :-)

And if you want to play console games on your PC that is also useless :-)

And the names they used Spartan and Cortana they stole that from their game Halo :-)

Cortana is supposed to be like Siri on Apple, how they have no imagination to steal from Apple, just makes them look foolish :-)

#2810
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Nope not true :-)

They actually say that on older games like Dead Space 4 it is slower and games like DA2 won't even run on it :-)

Now DX12 is an API if someone does a great job at using it, you will get a performance increase, but 50% that is a bit much :-)

Hell after Bioware is finished with DX12 games will run probably 50% slower :-)

DA2 won't run just because it's coded so badly. :)   Dead Space 3 wouldn't be affected by it since it'll just run on Directx11. There are actual intel demos where performance was 50% higher but  it was just a demo.   I agree with you on Eaware screwing things up with DX12.. Look at what they did to Mantle.   :)   I guarantee you that CD Projekt Red will reoptimize the game for folks who have Windows 10 and DX12 to make it run better.  It's what they do.  



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I think only the 900 series are DX12 :-)

#2812
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Only the 900 series will support all features of DX12

The other cards like the 770 will support some features of DX12 :-)

#2813
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Today was a monumental day for us on the Windows team because we shared our desire to redefine the relationship we have with you – our customers. We announced that a free upgrade for Windows 10 will be made available to customers running Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows Phone 8.1 who upgrade in the first year after launch.*

This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no cost. With Windows 10, the experience will evolve and get even better over time. We’ll deliver new features when they’re ready, not waiting for the next major release. We think of Windows as a Service – in fact, one could reasonably think of Windows in the next couple of years as one of the largest Internet services on the planet.

I'm pretty sure I'm right about them serving ads/marketplace with this statement from Microsoft.  

 

 

 

So DirectX 12 will, we’re told, only work with Windows 10. That’s a bummer for people who don’t want to upgrade from Win 7 or 8, but sugaring that pill slightly is the newly-revealed free upgrade to Win 10. 
We’ve also been informed that DirectX 12 will require a new graphics card in order to take advantage of everything it’s got to offer, though some existing cards will be able to get some benefit from it. “To get the full benefits of DX12, the answer is yes,” Mike Ybarra, Partner Director of Program Management, Xbox Platform told us. “There will be DX 11.1 cards that take advantage of a lot of the driver and software tech that we’re bringing in Windows 10, but if you want the full benefits of DX12, you’re going to need a DX12 card.“That’s a bit of a stinker – early word had it that current DX11 boards would do just fine. We don’t know the full story there yet though – trying to find out more about that ASAP.

And that's from Rock, Paper, Shotgun at the end of January.  



#2814
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Peregrinus

W10 is not due out until end of 2015

CDPR is coming out in May :-)

And now you tell me about Deus Ex Human Revolution Directors Cut, just paid 25 dollars for it last week :-)

I could have waited and get it for 10 dollars :-)

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I found an article today that I sent to GODzilla

Saying that W7 will support DX12 it will just be a download and no need to install W10 :-)

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I think only the 900 series are DX12 :-)

There will be DX 11.1 cards that take advantage of a lot of the driver and software tech that we’re bringing in Windows 10

 

R9's will be able to take full advantage of it,  the other cards that support DX 11.1 now will only be able to do what I just posted above.  So simply put, 11.2 cards will take full advantage, the others will get partial support. 



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Here is the article:-)

http://linustechtips...ndows-7-and-up/

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Peregrinus

W10 is not due out until end of 2015

CDPR is coming out in May :-)

And now you tell me about Deus Ex Human Revolution Directors Cut, just paid 25 dollars for it last week :-)

I could have waited and get it for 10 dollars :-)

It just went up today!   :(     CDPR does that a lot.  They actually reoptimized the first game to run better 9 months after it was released and gave everyone a whole bunch of free content too.  



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Peregrinus

And mine will take full advantage of DX12

Just as I was saying, certain cards will take partial advantage of DX12 while others will take full advantage of DX12 :-)

Not to worry I did my research:-)

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Peregrinus

Here is the article:-)

http://linustechtips...ndows-7-and-up/

I hope it's true because I really don't want to upgrade to Windows 10.  I'm actually perfectly happy with Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 .  All it took was for a free app to make Windows 8.1 run like Windows 7..  



#2821
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Peregrinus

If you read that link I sent you, you will find it interesting that DX12 may work on W7 without going to W10 :-)

Just a simple download and install :-)

The reason they are pushing people to go to W10 is because W8 did so bad in sales and has bad driver support :-)

Just like Bioware they did not fix a product and releasing another one already:-)

#2822
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As I said I have W7 fine tuned now like a F1 racing car :-)
For rid of a bunch of useless services and running only 38 to 40 process :-)

Why do I want W10 to screw all this up again :-)

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Ok, you are badass in this. I understand all but i´m too lazy to research about this, i´m more like a bookworm :P 

 

So, a software really can do that much for a hardware? Deng.



#2824
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Peregrinus

If you read that link I sent you, you will find it interesting that DX12 may work on W7 without going to W10 :-)

Just a simple download and install :-)

The reason they are pushing people to go to W10 is because W8 did so bad in sales and has bad driver support :-)

Just like Bioware they did not fix a product and releasing another one already:-)

The reasoning behind Windows 8 was poor to start with.  They wanted to have the same OS for tablets, Windows Phone and PC.  That is why it sold so poorly. It wasn't doing anything new and it didn't really run any better then Windows 7.  If you take out the metro interface like I did, you're left with Windows 7 with more pastel colors.  I have to admit Windows 8 does manage system memory slightly better and that's the only advantage it has.  



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Couldn't help myself after I saw the original...

 

 

Marry me. lol!

 

Herd The Sheep quest. Oh how I lol'd