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[MatrixGirl]

Hello

I wonder what I did to be distracting. Hope it was not something I said or did.

Will keep the Mac talk to myself for now on

Sorry

[Ashen Nedra]

My wife and I were discussing on the way home from work our experience at SXSW 2012. There were a bunch of young men and women (in their early 20s) that stated they were employees of Bioware at Austin. We talked about Austin and all the the neat fun stuff that there is to do in the surrounding area. We had a great talk about the experiences of designing and making games (I really want to be a game designer, but I feel antiquated), but both Debbie and I noticed this: There is a cultural disconnect between our age group (early 40s) and theirs (early 20s). They don't care for a long, successful career in one place. They're to 'antsy' to stay under the leadership (no matter how charismatic) because they go where they feel the most fulfilled. The turnover rate in big publishing companies like EA is in my opinion horrendous. However, that's an "old" outlook as far as this young group was concerned. I asked about old titles like Planescape and they said that they had experienced the game play, but not the story. In other words, they played it a few times to be familiar with it, and didn't acknowlege the art, mechanics or even the storyline. What got them really going was talking about action fights and console-specific programming. I brought up the mod that allowed the "finishing move to always trigger" in Origins and I swear to God (I mean, the Maker) they didn't know Origins did that. With the power of wikipedia, they searched for answers and got them, but without the intent or meaning or behind them. They could care less. I asked what they're working on and they said more content to be purchased with real money because EA had said that they will not victim to "Korean farmers." I sat there and felt so out of place and out of touch. My wife reminded me that every generation has different goals and dreams and I finally entered the "old way of thinking."

Anyway, I have since cancelled my love affair gone sour with Old Republic and I feel that this franchise is going into a direction that this "old guy" won't like. Multiplayer and MMOs is what EA wants like Blizzard has done for the past decade. I'm stubborn though. I love my Dragon Age, Fallout and Mass Effect stories. Also, the paragon and renegade virtues are lost to them. Their belief is that you are not defined by your choices, but the steps you take to get to the decision. Hmmm.... that's incomplete thinking, but that may be old thinking too.

 

Yeah...such people are called hipsters to be honest. And Mark Darrah is clearly one.

 

I don't blame them truly but God are they annoying.

 

My take on things is that (i) the world has become a more violent (wars, terrorism, crisis upon crisis, lies and deception all over the place) and competitive place that in the 80s or 90s or, frankly, before 9-11 and (ii) nerds/geeks were despised when we grew up; now it's the new chic and has been for 5 years or so.

 

So, people working in the game industry are behaving like traders in commodities, or people working for Big Pharma, or some business lawyers I knew (Sullivan and Cromwell people for example are insufferable as a rule, the world over).

 

Why? Money, big-cities-style-high-life, snottiness, corporations, bad company values, bad management, bad recruiting

 

In short, the gaming industry is starting to look like a regular industry in the baaaaaaaaaaaad sense of the term, a Shadowrun kind of sense, and people working in it as well.

 

It's starting to attract the wrong kind of people for the wrong reasons.

 

Look for the East, Sir. What CDProjekt and others are doing in Eastern Europe or Germany is beautiful, imho.

 

And hey, I'm only 34 and MatrixGirl is only 26 and she seems nice. There are still good people around you know, Sir Griffonclaw. You're not that old.

[Invisible Man]

I'm 30, 31 in a about 2 weeks or so... I still think I'm a teenager most of the time, now, thanks to this thread, I feel old... or perhaps simply older. I guess publishers are, or will be less inclined to produce games I'd actually enjoy at my "enhanced" age. I guess I should stick with emulators, and perhaps pick up a black & white tv, with hdmi ports.

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[Sylveria_Relden]

Hello

I wonder what I did to be distracting. Hope it was not something I said or did.

Will keep the Mac talk to myself for now on

Sorry

 

Huh? I don't know what was "distracting" about the Mac talk?

[Ashen Nedra]

Hello

I wonder what I did to be distracting. Hope it was not something I said or did.

Will keep the Mac talk to myself for now on

Sorry

your pic, silly. we're only joking, don't worry

[Bethgael]

Heya.

Just popping in to say hi. Or "heya", apparently.

 

At least I didn't say g'day!

 

(Also, Hipsters are just re-labelled beatniks... /old )

 

ETA: And since we all seem to be giving out our ages here, just turned 44. Introduced my sons and daughter to gaming, rather than the other way around. Paper D&D player in the 80s, space invaders and Oil Panic in the late 70s/early 80s, iirc. Remember the old tape decks? Yeah, learned on those.

 

1: goto 2

2: goto 1

 

Consider yourself virussed.

 

[MatrixGirl]

Hello

24 years old BTW

Not 26

Ashen ok I got it now, guess was not reading between the lines.

But thank you for the compliment

[Essorance]

Aloha!

 

I'm Ess.

 

I live in London, UK. I've been a big bioware fan since KotoR (A game that tops my all time favourites along with Suikoden 2 and Grandia). I have worked for two games companies; Square-Enix and Namco Bandai. Although, these days I work for the government. Not as exciting, better pay

 

I play most games, I've also ran some European events for the competitive FGC (That's the Fighting Game Community for those who don't know!). My love will always be for RPGs. I started late; first RPG was on the PSX (Grandia), and first tactical RPG on the Saturn (Mystaria aka Blazing Heroes). I love turn based combat. My first console was also a C64 (I am in my twenties!)

 

Um, what else. I speak Japanese, I figure skated competitively for two years, I cook the best duck in Europe and I play piano.

 

Oh yeah I almost forgot, I tend to divide the community on my opinions and upset many people. I've been banned from this forum temporarily twice and issued five warnings.

 

Nice to meet you lovely people.

[Invisible Man]

now that I think about it, it might have been kotor2/tslrp and morrowind that got me out of my single player, only post when I have problems state of mind. though I still prefer single-player as opposed to multiplayer games. that was around 2004 or so right? me and my memory of advanced years.


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didn't see your post Ess. so, hiya

[Ashen Nedra]

Heya.

Just popping in to say hi. Or "heya", apparently.

 

At least I didn't say g'day!

 

(Also, Hipsters are just re-labelled beatniks... /old )

We missed you, Mom

[Ashen Nedra]

Hello

24 years old BTW

Not 26

Ashen ok I got it now, guess was not reading between the lines.

But thank you for the compliment

Even better, you're giving us geezers a breeze of fresh air. You're welcome. nice to have you there.

[Ashen Nedra]

Aloha!

 

I'm Ess.

 

I live in London, UK. I've been a big bioware fan since KotoR (A game that tops my all time favourites along with Suikoden 2 and Grandia). I have worked for two games companies; Square-Enix and Namco Bandai. Although, these days I work for the government. Not as exciting, better pay

 

I play most games, I've also ran some European events for the competitive FGC (That's the Fighting Game Community for those who don't know!). My love will always be for RPGs. I started late; first RPG was on the PSX (Grandia), and first tactical RPG on the Saturn (Mystaria aka Blazing Heroes). I love turn based combat. My first console was also a C64 (I am in my twenties!)

 

Um, what else. I speak Japanese, I figure skated competitively for two years, I cook the best duck in Europe and I play piano.

 

Oh yeah I almost forgot, I tend to divide the community on my opinions and upset many people. I've been banned from this forum temporarily twice and issued five warnings.

 

Nice to meet you lovely people.

Impressive!  Did you check out the oldies: Shining Force series on emulators (Megadrive i think for the first one) ?  Suikoden 2 might be my favorite RPG along with Baldur's Gate 2

 

And what do you think of Genso Suikoden demise (DAI pillaged Suikoden, but badly imho)?

 

And don't worry about being controversial as long as you are civil and funny, we'll love you. Welcome!

[MatrixGirl]

I am looking forward to Star Citizen, that game looks awesome, and Chris Roberts said this was going to be for PC only and he will never develop for consoles. But I always did like Diablo 3 it came out and it worked perfectly out of the box and it is a PC and Mac edition. But weird that DA2 was also PC and Mac, but on DAI they could not be bothered to make a Mac version. But then again the Mac version of DA2 was ported bt Transgaming, so we ended up with a real bad port. But I guess you cannot port Frostbyte to Mac

[Ashen Nedra]

I am looking forward to Star Citizen, that game looks awesome, and Chris Roberts said this was going to be for PC only and he will never develop for consoles. But I always did like Diablo 3 it came out and it worked perfectly out of the box and it is a PC and Mac edition. But weird that DA2 was also PC and Mac, but on DAI they could not be bothered to make a Mac version. But then again the Mac version of DA2 was ported bt Transgaming, so we ended up with a real bad port. But I guess you cannot port Frostbyte to Mac

 

They couldn't even port DAI correctly from XBoxOne to PC (both Microsoft) so you're asking for the moon there, MatrixGirl

I'm so happy here.  This group is officially adopted. 

Warms my heart Bethgael, bring out the kittens! I can't use gifs properly for the life of me

[Essorance]

No, this was a period where I did not see RPGs for the pre 32 bit era. As I said, I was introduced to them late. Yes, Suikoden 2 is an example of everything in an RPG done right. It even has better HQ customisation than DAI.

 

I played G.Suikoden after Suikoden 2, so I'm biased. I would say 2 beats 1. idk. 2 is a work of art.

 

My 'golden era' is all around 32/64 bit, favourite RPGs would include Suikoden 2, Legand of Legaia, Skies of Arcadia, Grandia, Mystaria (It's bad, but I love it), Panzer Dragoon Saga. I got into PC gaming very late so I was not one of the icewind dale/baldurs gate/skyrim/etc crowd.

 

After reading this thread, holy shat you guys proper old school. I'm out of my league lol.

[Invisible Man]

Heya.

Just popping in to say hi. Or "heya", apparently.
 
At least I didn't say g'day!
 
(Also, Hipsters are just re-labelled beatniks... /old )
 
ETA: And since we all seem to be giving out our ages here, just turned 44. Introduced my sons and daughter to gaming, rather than the other way around. Paper D&D player in the 80s, space invaders and Oil Panic in the late 70s/early 80s, iirc. Remember the old tape decks? Yeah, learned on those.
 
1: goto 2
2: goto 1
 
Consider yourself virussed.
 

happy belated b-day.


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[Peregrinus]

I think everyone here will appreciate a bit of happy nostalgia.  go here--->  https://archive.org/.../internetarcade

[Ashen Nedra]

No, this was a period where I did not see RPGs for the pre 32 bit era. As I said, I was introduced to them late. Yes, Suikoden 2 is an example of everything in an RPG done right. It even has better HQ customisation than DAI.

 

I played G.Suikoden after Suikoden 2, so I'm biased. I would say 2 beats 1. idk. 2 is a work of art.

 

My 'golden era' is all around 32/64 bit, favourite RPGs would include Suikoden 2, Legand of Legaia, Skies of Arcadia, Grandia, Mystaria (It's bad, but I love it), Panzer Dragoon Saga. I got into PC gaming very late so I was not one of the icewind dale/baldurs gate/skyrim/etc crowd.

 

After reading this thread, holy shat you guys proper old school. I'm out of my league lol.

I actually like suikoden V a lot

 

Those two. Masterpieces.  I bought a Gamecube only for Skies of Arcadia (remake from the Saturn, I think?). Didn't care much for Grandia if i remember correctly.

 

You should definitely try Xenogears (in my top three RPGs) mechas, philosophy, anime intro..100 hours story, angst, everything. I might have all the ROMs somewhere.

 

Also, Shadow Hearts 2 for the laughs, story and tactical combat (very easy though)

[Sylveria_Relden]

Heya.
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Welcome Beth

 

Aloha!

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Welcome Ess

[Sylveria_Relden]

After reading this thread, holy shat you guys proper old school. I'm out of my league lol.

 

Don't worry, we'll still accept younger fol... oops my walker hit the corner, sorry

[MatrixGirl]

Essorance makes two of us :-)

I did play Skyrim was not bad until they fixed the 2 Gig ram barrier and the moders got a hold of it and fixed it. But I got bored quickly and never replayed it again.

So was a bit scared of DAI being such a large game :-)

But I am just in few hours into DAI and have no clue what I am doing yet, but I purchased the companion book for the game and downloaded the PDF on how to play the game I hope it will help :-)