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[aerisblight]

Ok, so after playing this game for like 3 times now ( and two times choosing the mages' side ) I just can't come up with an answer, so I am hoping someone can explain this to me.

 

I was fairly surprised to find Solas in the Redcliffe dungeon. Not only was he in that dungeon, but he was also infected with red lyrium. Alsmost everyone knows who and *what* he is, I just don't understand he allowed himself to be captured and infected.

 

Yes, he was weak after waking up, but considering what he is he should be able to I don't know, do something?

[Nimlowyn]

Sure he could do something, and probably did fight, but just because he is powerful doesn't mean he'll be successful.

 

I imagine he tried to do something, but it simply wasn't enough. Even those of great power have limitations and can be overpowered. Despite whatever he could have or would have done in that world, Corypheus outmaneuvered and overpowered him. 

[katerinafm]

Considering the Blight has affected the Old Gods and the red lyrium HAS the blight (as we learn from Bianca), is it that surprising that even someone like him gets infected? Regardless of what he is supposed to be, he is just a mage as far as everyone else is concerned.

[justafan]

Solas is no god, and more or less states than none of the Elven Pantheon were anything more than very powerful magic users.  If Corypheus' assumption that entering the Fade physically would give him godlike power was true, it is possible that he could overpower a weakened elven "god".

[SabreTastic]

Apologies for the slight tangent here, but this is something that has been bothering me. I've done 'In Hushed Whispers' twice, never taken Solas with me, and have always gotten the 'I saw you in the Redcliffe Dungeon' dialogue line opportunity. So is he there somewhere if you don't take him along and I've just missed him? Or is that a bug and I shouldn't be able to talk to him about that at all if I didn't take him with me (as is the case with all my other companions)?

 

Edit: Either way, I'm not entirely surprised he stuck around. Who knows how strong he is at the moment despite him being...whatever he is? And his proposed 'How to Avoid the Breach' alternative plan was really not a good one. So if 'run/hide' is his current only alternative, he's probably in a world of trouble.

[perfect_victime]

Well Flemeth saved the warden because she was afraid of the Blight, or so she said. Maybe Solas is there because he also is infected by the blight, in this case red lyrium. Just maybe

[In Exile]

Remember what Flemeth said about the Blight? Even to something like her the taint is threatening. I am not surprised red lyrium could have that effect on Solas. It is also unclear how much of his powers was tied to that orb and to the anchor.

[Navasha]

Well, Solas isn't really a "god".    Mythal was far higher in the Pantheon and she was 'murdered'.   Besides, the whole point is that without the IQ and the mark, they had no way of closing portals.   With an infinite amount of spirits/demons to pour into the world, it was only a matter of time before everyone succumbed to them.

[RenAdaar]

is solas all ways in the dungeon even if you dont take him? Because I all ways get the dialog option to tell him I saw him there. But I never actually remember seeing him... 

[Addai]

is solas all ways in the dungeon even if you dont take him? Because I all ways get the dialog option to tell him I saw him there. But I never actually remember seeing him... 

Yes, he's somewhere in the cells. You don't go around and find your party members?

 

As for why he's in the dungeon, I take it that since he knew his power was limited, he was playing down low in the hopes of figuring a way out of it. We know what Corypheus does with rivals. Solas says when you're confronting Corypheus in Haven that he prefers to lay low in such situations, so there you go.

[SabreTastic]

Yes, he's somewhere in the cells. You don't go around and find your party members?

 

I suspect RenAdaar is talking about the same thing I am. Because I have yet to take him along, but I always have that dialogue option after completing 'In Hushed Whispers.' And besides Fiona and that one sort of Tevinter enthusiast elf-mage...I haven't seen anyone else in a cell that I didn't bring with me to Redcliffe in the first place.

[In Exile]

Well, Solas isn't really a "god". Mythal was far higher in the Pantheon and she was 'murdered'. Besides, the whole point is that without the IQ and the mark, they had no way of closing portals. With an infinite amount of spirits/demons to pour into the world, it was only a matter of time before everyone succumbed to them.

We don't know how the pantheon actually ranked. The modern elves don't think the Dread Wolf was first in power but that's just their after-the-fact story, passed down over the ages. Solas may well have created the Veil. He at least had the power to seal all the other "gods" away.

[Nimlowyn]

I suspect RenAdaar is talking about the same thing I am. Because I have yet to take him along, but I always have that dialogue option after completing 'In Hushed Whispers.' And besides Fiona and that one sort of Tevinter enthusiast elf-mage...I haven't seen anyone else in a cell that I didn't bring with me to Redcliffe in the first place.

My husband and I both go it this as well, even though neither of us took Solas. Sounds like a bug to me.

[Squeeze the Fish]

I was initially surprised to see him there as well, but you gotta' figure he's weak after waking and Corypheus does have the orb containing his power. I would think that, given enough time, Solas could get strong enough to overpower Corypheus (unless his power is finite and most of it is contained in the foci), but, IIRC, it's only a year into the future, doesn't seem like that's enough time for him to recoup what was lost.

[RenAdaar]

I suspect RenAdaar is talking about the same thing I am. Because I have yet to take him along, but I always have that dialogue option after completing 'In Hushed Whispers.' And besides Fiona and that one sort of Tevinter enthusiast elf-mage...I haven't seen anyone else in a cell that I didn't bring with me to Redcliffe in the first place.

Yeah that's what I meant I never take him with me but I all ways get the option to tell him he was there.

[In Exile]

My husband and I both go it this as well, even though neither of us took Solas. Sounds like a bug to me.

Whereas I just did hushed whispers and I didn't get this conversation at all despite taking him. It may be bugged and triggers in the opposite case?

[MiyuEmi]

@aerisblight: Although Solas is the Dread Wolf, an Elven God, he himself states that the Elven Gods were not gods in the traditional (absurd I think he says) sense, that they were powerful nobles and Fen'Harel was noted to be a powerful mage.  You learn that Fen'Harel is capable of being killed through Codex, specifically 'The Slow Arrow'.  So yes, I can imagine that were he captured, because you basically walked him into the lions den in Redcliffe, he would be effected in the same way as other captives were.