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[Colonelkillabee]

You can't rly say if cassandra helps poor less or more than leliana because in fact cassandra epilogue says nothing about it or her reforms same when epilogues ignore templars/mages when you take other side .but we know Cassandra thinks chantry should be concentrated on helping poor.

 

Exactly. It's like trying to say which infinite matrix is more vast when you don't even know what variables they both started from.

 

All we know is they both help the poor, period. Cassandra's epilogue is vague in general. That could be for an infinite number of reasons. One being that it might change or be added to later due to dlc. Who knows. I don't, you don't, no one does. Arguing to the contrary is just foolish.

[Lulupab]

There is also blatant matter that Cassandra will ignore city elves. They definitely fall under the "helpless and poor" category. I judged it based on current evidence and Leliana is far ahead in this matter. I still think her resemblance to Elizabeth is not coincidence and we know for a fact that Bioware has based almost everything on real life events, loosely or directly. Having the support of common people is necessary for Leliana's reforms to happen, like Queen Elizabeth. And this is what the devs/writers intended. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

Realism and leliana ending yeah...

[leaguer of one]

Hard evidence? Sabrae Clan owns the Hinterlands then. The Deep Roads were reclaimed then. The Circle of Magi in Ferelden was autonomous before the events of Inquisition then. There're are elven leaders in Ferelden's court then...

 

Oh wait...

Merrill confirms the sabrae still has control of some of the hinterlands still in da2. DAO never said the deep roads were reclaimed. Dao stated the mage boon was retracted by the chantry, and there are elven leaders in ferelden's court.

[leaguer of one]

Exactly. It's like trying to say which infinite matrix is more vast when you don't even know what variables they both started from.

 

All we know is they both help the poor, period. Cassandra's epilogue is vague in general. That could be for an infinite number of reasons. One being that it might change or be added to later due to dlc. Who knows. I don't, you don't, no one does. Arguing to the contrary is just foolish.

Cass makes an order of kinights just to do that.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Realism and leliana ending yeah...

You speaking of Unhardened Leliana as Divine, but yeah...some people keep thinking Hardened Leliana can keep killing people who disagree with her forever, and there will be no poor consequences for that.

[TheKomandorShepard]

You speaking of Unhardened Leliana as Divine, but yeah...some people keep thinking Hardened Leliana can keep killing people who disagree with her forever, and there will be no poor consequences for that.

Im speaking about every leliana ending (however , Uleliana doubles that) pretty much im talking about her mage solution and how peoples accepted that just cause leliana said so i mean that would be pretty much impossible to do against normal prejudice and it that case we deal with legit fears that peoples have.

[Colonelkillabee]

If God really loves me, he'll make assassinating her an origins story for DA 4.

 

I'm waiting, God.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Im speaking about every leliana ending (however , Uleliana doubles that) pretty much im talking about her mage solution and how peoples accepted that just cause leliana said so i mean that would be pretty much impossible to do against normal prejudice and it that case we deal with legit fears that peoples have.

I'm not disagreeing with you despite that I try to correct your argument, but I see it now, and you do raise a good point about her approach to mages solution. Regardless of unhardened or hardened Leliana, her ending is not realistic especially when it comes to mage solution.

[Colonelkillabee]

Indeed. Not even Morgan Freeman could pull that off, and Morgan Freeman has more charisma than Leliana in his left asscheek.

[Hair Serious Business]

lol this is funny because I recently broke up with Josephine and made thread about it and now it is discussed of what will Leliana do to me...the responses I already got are disturbing more then enough to keep me awake at night O_________________________O

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

If God really loves me, he'll make assassinating her an origins story for DA 4.

I'm waiting, God.

As long as there's an assassinate Killabee option as well, for insulting my waifu's honor. Or a duel in single combat. WILL YOU DUEL ME IN SINGLE COMBAT

Dis be dangerous turf you're treadin' son *eye twitches*

[leaguer of one]

Indeed. Not even Morgan Freeman could pull that off, and Morgan Freeman has more charisma than Leliana in his left asscheek.

It not like Leliana doesn't have fantastic butt cheeks...

[Lulupab]

Realism and leliana ending yeah...

 

Clearly you don't know about Elizabeth then.

 

Took power from church which was impossible at the time due to sheer power religion had

 

Had greatest spy network of her time

 

Perfectly talented at learning secrets and intrigues.

 

Absolutely crushed the religious sects opposing her, I think Leliana's "grand cathredreal flowing with blood" applies here

 

Got the support of common people

 

Restored peace which seemed impossible at the time but no she restored peace with throat cutting and spying

 

After hundreds of years peace was restored, literature and art flourished even the genres which were forbidden by the church

 

This was almost impossible to achieve in her age, but she did it and because of her England is still a superpower to this very day.

 

 

The point behind this is no commoner will join a rebellion against Divine when the divine is literally their salvation (Which Leliana's epilogue implies she is). The rebellions will solely rely on mercenaries and they will die as soon as they form. It was key to success for Elizabeth as well. You may think Leliana's epilogue is "impossible" but we both know its not impossible, its just unlikely but Leliana has taken the only route with any chance of success, the support of commoners.

 

Also speaking of realism, Martin Luther King or Anne Frank or Rosa Parks or Gandhi achieved similar goals with Leliana, so yes Leliana's epilogue is unlikely but definitely not impossible.

[Basement Cat]

As long as there's an assassinate Killabee option as well, for insulting my waifu's honor. Or a duel in single combat. WILL YOU DUEL ME IN SINGLE COMBAT

Dis be dangerous turf you're treadin' son *eye twitches*

Are you invoking Kanly, Snook?

[Colonelkillabee]

As long as there's an assassinate Killabee option as well, for insulting my waifu's honor. Or a duel in single combat. WILL YOU DUEL ME IN SINGLE COMBAT

Dis be dangerous turf you're treadin' son *eye twitches*

 

Haha, okay, I'll bite. I challenge you to a rap battle.

[Lulupab]

Also lol @ people mocking Leliana's looks. She is the most good looking female of the series, I could do *anything if I looked like her.

[Colonelkillabee]

It not like Leliana doesn't have fantastic butt cheeks...

Dunno, she looks rather pancakey to me

Cass on the other hand has some thick ass hips.

[Colonelkillabee]

Also lol @ people mocking Leliana's looks. She is the most good looking female of the series, I could do *anything if I looked like her.

She quite honestly has nothing on cassandra. Leliana is pretty, don't get me wrong. But she's also boring.

[TheKomandorShepard]

chop

So did Elizabeth removed from society prejudices in 1 year or close? If not then we don't have anything to talk about.

 

Because restoring peace and challenging current power isn't close to removing prejudices in society not speaking off that situation is much more difficult than just prejudices as we also add legitimate fears .

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Are you invoking Kanly, Snook?

Internet, waifu-induced Kanly. Srs bsns.

Haha, okay, I'll bite. I challenge you to a rap battle.

THIS IS NOT MY FIELD

THIS IS RIGGED AGAINST ME

Dunno, she looks rather pancakey to me
Cass on the other hand has some thick ass hips.

u kiddn me bruh

She killed a man with dem thighs.

KILLED A MAN.

[Lulupab]

She quite honestly has nothing on cassandra. Leliana is pretty, don't get me wrong. But she's also boring.

 

Cassandra has a unique style which is what puts her behind Leliana, I know many males who find her off putting because she looks way too manly. Leliana on the other hand is simply pretty, not strings attached.

 

If Cassandra really pleased the majority, we wouldn't get all these "OMG LIMITED ROMANCE FOR HET MALES" threads. Dorian is so good, all the gays have shut up. Although admittedly Cassandra really satisfies those interested in her.

[Colonelkillabee]

THIS IS NOT MY FIELD

THIS IS RIGGED AGAINST ME


u kiddn me bruh

She killed a man with dem thighs.

KILLED A MAN.

LOL and Cassandra made my head pop with hers. Point?

[Lulupab]

So did Elizabeth removed from society prejudices in 1 year or close? If not then we don't have anything to talk about.

 

Because restoring peace and challenging current power isn't close to removing prejudices in society not speaking off that situation is much more difficult than just prejudices as we also add legitimate fears .

 

Around two years if I'm not mistaken, but that's not the point. Don't use the word "impossible" easily.