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[Merlik]

Is it like Popeye and it lasts under an hour, or once per day? Just wondering.

[snackrat]

Evangeline (Asunder) went on a trip that lasted several weeks and only brought about five vials with her. She probably consumed them only partially at a time but I'd guess I tiny amount daily, or every few days. She wouldn't have enough otherwise.

[X Equestris]

There was an interview with Gaider that came out after DA2, and one of the many things he talked about in it was lyrium and Templars, specifically in relation to Alistair and the comics. What he says implies that Alistair lasted from the time he was recruited to sometime past the end of Origins. I'll try to get the link for you.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I can see as maybe once a week as well as an extra dose if needed like when about to engage a hostile mage or demon. 

[X Equestris]

Here's the link to the interview:

http://swooping-is-b...om/1286233.html

[Nykara]

I would say it might also depend on how heavily a Templar takes it and relies on it too. Could be different for each one of them if some are heavy users and others are light users.

[snackrat]

There was an interview with Gaider that came out after DA2, and one of the many things he talked about in it was lyrium and Templars, specifically in relation to Alistair and the comics. What he says implies that Alistair lasted from the time he was recruited to sometime past the end of Origins. I'll try to get the link for you.

 

Curious. Alistair says in DAO proper that he never took lyrium - that isn't until after the vows, which had yet to take.

[MikeJW]

Curious. Alistair says in DAO proper that he never took lyrium - that isn't until after the vows, which had yet to take.

 

They ret conned that in the comics I think.

[X Equestris]

Curious. Alistair says in DAO proper that he never took lyrium - that isn't until after the vows, which had yet to take.

Yeah, it got retconned.

[snackrat]

Well, Gaider does say the comics are his particular universe (Alistair King and such), so he may have taken that opportunity - it may not be officially retconned... Because if it is truly the case, that should ruffle some serious feathers.

 

If he's a Warden, does the Chantry allow them to get lyrium? Do they get it illegally?

If he's a wandering drunk, he'd have to deal with smugglers. Considering his naivety I don't imagine that working for him.

As as King? That's something people are cool with: their king drinking rocks and slowly going nuts because he'll go nuts faster if he stops?

 

Or does the comic show him quitting, thus negating the main point of Cullen's personal arc?

[BackdoorPaco]

Well, Gaider does say the comics are his particular universe (Alistair King and such), so he may have taken that opportunity - it may not be officially retconned... Because if it is truly the case, that should ruffle some serious feathers.

 

If he's a Warden, does the Chantry allow them to get lyrium? Do they get it illegally?

If he's a wandering drunk, he'd have to deal with smugglers. Considering his naivety I don't imagine that working for him.

As as King? That's something people are cool with: their king drinking rocks and slowly going nuts because he'll go nuts faster if he stops?

 

Or does the comic show him quitting, thus negating the main point of Cullen's personal arc?

It's retconned. You need lyrium in order to use templar abilities.

 

In the comic Alistair drinks some lyrium and says he started using again to regain his templar abilities.

It doesn't show him quitting, but you can assume he stopped taking it once he no longer needed templar shenanigans. He probably won't go through a situation like Cullen because:

1. he didn't use it for long and as such, doesn't develop a critical addiction
2. he suffers from special snowflake syndrome is a Theirin descendant and has magical blood or something.

[Korva]

If he's a Warden, does the Chantry allow them to get lyrium? Do they get it illegally?

 

Considering how the Grey Wardens hold a special status in many countries (Right of Conscription, treaties) and the fact that their ranks include mages for whom the stuff is also useful, I'd think the Wardens have some kind of special exception from the Chantry's lyrium monopoly, too. Orzammar tends to view Wardens with respect, and they are the supplier, so I can absolutely see the dwarves sellling lyrium to the only sun-addled beanpoles who don't ignore the darkspawn threat until it kicks their own doors down.

[snackrat]

 

It's retconned. You need lyrium in order to use templar abilities.

 

In the comic Alistair drinks some lyrium and says he started using again to regain his templar abilities.

It doesn't show him quitting, but you can assume he stopped taking it once he no longer needed templar shenanigans. He probably won't go through a situation like Cullen because:

1. he didn't use it for long and as such, doesn't develop a critical addiction
2. he suffers from special snowflake syndrome is a Theirin descendant and has magical blood or something.

 

 

Ahh! That makes sense. Especially since (thanks to Cole) we learn a little more about how templar abilities work in conjunction with it, and it makes the Chantry seem less villainous for using it. Thanks for the info.

 

I suppose that makes DAO templar spec another classic case of Story and Gameplay Segregation, which Dragon Age has already had plenty of regardless.

[zeypher]

You also do realize in a way Alistair took red lyrium, much more potent. What does grey warden joining require? and what is red lyrium? The answer to these two questions tells you why he might have not needed lyrium for a while.

 

Infact pretty much all grey wardens are high on red lyrium. There is a damn good reason why lore says they eat a lot and their supernatural combat prowess. Sure its only a litlle bit but you get the idea.

[Lavaeolus]

On Wardens and lyrium: during the Second Blight, the Grey Wardens nominally converted to the Chantry after being impressed with Emperor Drakon.

I imagine the Chantry still supplies them.

[KainD]

Depends on how much they use their powers, as it exhausts the lyrium supply.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Samson: "Got any dust? Dwarf dust? I'm huuurtin' here!"

[snackrat]

Came back because I had new information that answered the question definitively.

 

Ser tells you (if you are interested in templar spec) that the lyrium is taken daily.

[X Equestris]

You also do realize in a way Alistair took red lyrium, much more potent. What does grey warden joining require? and what is red lyrium? The answer to these two questions tells you why he might have not needed lyrium for a while.
 
Infact pretty much all grey wardens are high on red lyrium. There is a damn good reason why lore says they eat a lot and their supernatural combat prowess. Sure its only a litlle bit but you get the idea.

Grey Wardens don't take red lyrium. I'm not sure where you got that. The Joining concoction contains normal lyrium, Darkspawn blood, and a drop of Archdemon blood. Red lyrium' s taint is different from that of the darkspawn, as evidenced by the fact that Cory can't jump to the body of a Red Templar.

[Quaddis]

They ret conned that in the comics I think.

 

A for f***s sake, this all retconning at first was kind of funny, in a bad way, but if it continues this way we should have Classic World of Dragon Age, and New World of Dragon Age.

[EmissaryofLies]

It changes from game to game.