The game’s executive producer merely confirmed that it is nearly done, and that they will release additional information on the patch once they know exactly what it will contain.
Er. Do you see it too?
It is 'nearly done' and 'they don't know exactly what it will contain' at the same time?Just... Wow.Mark - you're always a pleasure to listen to. But you really need some logics.
Good catch!
I'm actually relieved they're trying to find a way to customize our characters besides the initial point. I'm not really satisfied with my mage Trevelyan and I'm already 20 hours inside the game. I don't want to restart the character just because of her flat forehead.
I don't see any game breaking bugs on mine, maybe I just got lucky? The game runs really smoothly for me with one exception, sound. So the only thing I'm hoping for is that the PS4 version gets the sound issues fixed.
What sound problems?
I'm on a PC and the only audio bugs I've come across are:
1. Dialogue clipping in cut scenes.... ends too soon
2. Dialogue starting just as I'm about to have a fight and continues as if nothing is happening during battle.
Audio Options I tweaked are:
1. reduced the volume on background music because my head would explode.
2. Also reduced the master volume somewhat.
It's impossible for them to know exactly what is in the patch until it is completely done. Until that moment, literally anything could change.Good catch!
It's impossible for them to know exactly what is in the patch until it is completely done. Until that moment, literally anything could change.
It's like a poor excuse for a burnt pie from a bad cook if you ask me. If you know what you're doing and you do it right - you'll know what you get.
What annoys me more is the fact that we get these news on Twitter and third party sites but here, in the official forum... we get nothing.
And yet, they ask that we redirect our comments and suggestions to the forum, when asking a question -or making a suggestion on the aforementioned social networking sites. lol
I guess the patch won't have anything like the 80% of the game content that was cut and replaced by "Fetch me 3000 weeds" quests, etc. Or fixing skyhold you can upgrade it with real noticeable upgrades and repair the whole place, use up all the rooms, etc. But I can change how my character looks because even though I could already do that at the start of the game, that was the most important thing to do later on!
Nothing is worse than spending ages tweaking sliders and then get in-game and realize your eyeliner is distractingly bright or something. I'm looking forward to fixes, but that absolutely IS the highlight of the patch for me.
Wow. Some of you people could whine if Bioware gave you each their staff's weight in gold and then preformed ritual seppuku in your honor.
-Character creation being available during the game is one of the most heavily requested features.
-Tons of different people are working on other aspects of the patch. We'll know what's included when we know what's included. Chill.
-This is "a" patch. Not "the" patch. Guess what? That means we'll get more patches, that will address more issues. Latter.
Nothing is worse than spending ages tweaking sliders and then get in-game and realize your eyeliner is distractingly bright or something. I'm looking forward to fixes, but that absolutely IS the highlight of the patch for me.
Hear hear. I guess it's a preference thing. I can live with lags and stuttering every now and then, small annoyance. But my character constantly having a flaw in cutscenes that I never intended? Desire to play = gone.
Of course I understand the people not being able to play because of constant crashes etc. I hope that is fixed too. But performance issues, not much. At least for me.
I did, 48 hour ban for expressing lesbian desires in the Sera thread.
The mod must have been confused, only straight desires are forbidden with bioware now. One of the upcoming patches will fix the Dorian issue. If you noticed if you miss one flirt chance with Cassandra, you're screwed out of any chance for the rest of the game. But with Dorian you can skip every flirt/heart dialogue option and yet every subsequent dialogue has a flirt option, bioware 'daring' you to click on it. Developers are debating one of two options, either next patch if you don't click on the flirt with dorian by the 2nd time, then a 2 day game ban for being a bigot or the game will go on auto mode and automatically click on it and rush to a scene where dorian gets into your heiney.
Is the storage box coming
Don't think so. We weren't promised a Storage Box DLC yet.
However who cares about promises these days...
The article doesn't even say the Character Re-Creator is going to *be* in the patch, just that it's something else the developers are looking into. Which is borne out by reading the handful of Tweets they somehow stretched into a couple hundred words.
The mod must have been confused, only straight desires are forbidden with bioware now. One of the upcoming patches will fix the Dorian issue. If you noticed if you miss one flirt chance with Cassandra, you're screwed out of any chance for the rest of the game. But with Dorian you can skip every flirt/heart dialogue option and yet every subsequent dialogue has a flirt option, bioware 'daring' you to click on it. Developers are debating one of two options, either next patch if you don't click on the flirt with dorian by the 2nd time, then a 2 day game ban for being a bigot or the game will go on auto mode and automatically click on it and rush to a scene where dorian gets into your heiney.
In fact female gay people should be offended by what Sera is. Really, no female gays I've met were this nuts. In fact, no gorls/women were at all.
So I can hardly call Bioware position on gay relationships biased.
Developers work off their own internal bug lists/databases built with the help of Q&A, not "sanctioned forum threads".Trash article. "The developer is working on removing more bugs from the game"... based on what? There is no sanctioned thread with a list of known issues, the community has been doing it themselves with no recognition or acknowledgment from Biotrash.
Alright let's get back to school.
There's a thing called planning. Let's say you're making bricks for sell.
Before you start the production process you plan how much do you want them produced. Let's say 100. Once you hit 80 of them you can say "it's nearly done!" and grab a beer.
How could you say that something is "nearly done" if you don't have any idea how much of fixes are going to be in a patch, eh?
Dude, I already explained that in the post you're replying to. The brick metaphor you're using here is conceptually wrong, because a patch isn't a stack of identical items, it's a conglomeration of independent bits of code, most of which are completely independent if each other.
I'll try and walk you through it in a simple fashion. Let's say there are only five major things being worked on. Programmer A is implementing a walk toggle for PCs, programmer B is handling some console issue, programmer C is working on the face-altering thing, and so on. Theoretically you could just release five separate patches, but that's a QA and certification nightmare so nobody does it that way; not in gaming, anyhow. So you bundle them together into one download and call that a patch.
So, what happens if they're not all done at the same time? Do you hold up A, B, and E's fixes because C and D need a couple more weeks?
I can't see why don't split it into several patches that can be certified one after another. Lots of games do it, specially ones that have multiplayer.
Some even use 'micropatches' to solve most pressing bugs.
Delaying something to save developer some problems results in players being unhappy playing the game for longer.
And what if patch doesn't work as intended?
You'll get even more people withdrowing their money from future Bioware purposes.
This is all so confusing. Could I get another inexplicable brick analogy to summarize the complex process of software development at a major studio?
You know I was giving out some 'Kissass' achievements few weeks back. Want a 'Smartass' one? 
When you're debugging something sufficiently complex, you have literally no idea what you might have to break in order to get something else to work. All the parts are interconnected.It's like a poor excuse for a burnt pie from a bad cook if you ask me. If you know what you're doing and you do it right - you'll know what you get.
Certification costs money.I can't see why don't split it into several patches that can be certified one after another.
Ugh capitalism...
Though people would stop demanding refunds if BW actually fixed the game and people with broken product don't buy DLC's so in that viewpoint actually fixing the base game could be good business practice. Though I guess with DLC's you get more money in total than fixing your poor excuse of game : /
I agree for the most part but what does that have to do with them giving out a free CC editor mid game? If they were indeed making us pay for that, alongside with the patches included, I'd think what you're saying would be a lot more relevant, but since it's for free, I don't see how them giving us the CC editor is an example of poor business practice. If I'm missing a detail, or misunderstanding what you'er saying, let me know, it's just from from reading through I don't understand how it applies, since as far as I've heard, they haven't actually announced any DLCs for SP yet.
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