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[KaiserShep]

I would hardly call DA2 linguini with white clam sauce. The last 1/3 of the game goes into auto-pilot. Difference is (boring or not) the Inquisitor gets **** done, while Hawke half-asses his way to victory.

Well, in fairness, Hawke has no real set of objectives like the Warden or Inquisitor do, since there's no mission beyond live in a city and deal with its bullsh**. If I was trying to get by and the city was tearing itself apart, I'd be inclined to half-ass my way to victory at best, or plan a breakout of my sister in mage prison and skidaddle before the door has time enough to hit me in the ass and let that rotten burg do itself in.

[zeypher]

Inquisitor is likely insane since being around red lyrium all the time. 

[dirk5027]

If Hawk accomplishes nothing, at least he and the companions had personality, the quiz and his bunch have zero (can only speak of the male quiz haven't played female)

[dirk5027]

i'm one that will defend DA2 with a passion, even with its flaws (reused areas), it had personality and the combat was a blast

[zeypher]

i'm one that will defend DA2 with a passion, even with its flaws (reused areas), it had personality and the combat was a blast

YES!! i agree with you since like would not convey how much i agree with you. It was a better and a more fun game than the offline MMO i ended up with.

[ERINII]

Actually I just replayed DA:O and DA2, then followed by Inquisition. And I must say it was a very pleasant experience since you could really see how the series has evolved, in good and bad. One thing that I hadn't really noticed before was how gray the colour scheme in DA:O was, especially straight after playing DA:I. Also I found myself really struggling with the absence of the jump button, which is really funny since I never thought it was that important.

 

What I miss the most is probably DA2's quest system, since every quest had a proper scene and choices to make. DA:I only has scenes in story quests. Sigh.

[MiyuEmi]

Of all of the three, DA2 was my least favourite, though it did have one of my favourite characters in it.  I have been thinking I would play DAO again and DA2 just to be sarcastic through the entire playthrough, but as I play the games for the story and characters, DAO and DAI are my favourites.  DAO for the story and Characters and DAI for the characters.  DA2 didn't really feel as though the companions were given as much attention and IMO it felt rushed.  No one was particularly impressed and it was disappointing to find that despite the fact that my Hawke tried to fix things, the Seekers attempted to blame her for the entire mess.  Combat was better in DA2 with regard to action, though strategically, it was better in DAO.

 

I'm sure I'll play both again fairly soon.  On my second DAI playthrough though and I have a third one planned before I set it aside for a while.

[Sweawm]

I must agree that DA2 is thus far my favorite in the series. The characters are probably what carried it for me, as well as the fact that Hawke has probably the best voice acting for a protagonist in any Bioware game. 

 

There was something off about Inquisition's characters. Only the Advisers have any team dynamic, while as the actual party members seem to barely interact beyond that two or so scenes. They never really come off as particularly interesting either. 

 

I think the greatest difference is while DA2 had repetitive scenery, there was at least something actually happening. We got frequent dialogues. In Inquisition, you can spend half an hour at a time wandering about in a few fetch quests without even ever seeing a single dialogue. 

[SporkFu]

I started a new game of DA2 a bit before inquisition was released. Got as far as Act 2 and was enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would. But then DA:I arrived in the mail, and now every other game I have is feeling those left-out-in-the-cold blues. I really do want to get back and finish that DA2 game sometime, though. Isabela is always difficult to resist But I dunno when that will be. I'm having blast with DA:I at the moment *shrug* 

[Obsidian Gryphon]

 I like DA2 because it's more focused on the protagonist (I don't mind playing as a human with no other race choices, it just makes it more up close).  I used cheats to clear repetitive dungeons because it's boring to beat off wave after wave and it really hasten the pace. However, with the Keep, I don't see the point of going back to DAO and DA2. I've replayed them out till they're threadbare.

[Helgagrim]

I recently played through DA2 again after finishing DAI. I didn't even now Cory was a DLC villain as I never played any DA2 DLC before. And I really enjoyed re-playing DA2 and for the first time playing Legacy, which I really liked.

[MiyuEmi]

@Helgagrim:  Did you play through Awakenings?  He was the villain in that too.

[ReiKokoFuuu]

@Helgagrim:  Did you play through Awakenings?  He was the villain in that too.

 

if you mean the architect, he was a completely different character.  corypheus' first appearance was in legacy.

 

the other day, i just randomly had the urge to romance isabela (came out of nowhere, i don't even remember what brought it on).  i really loved DA2, hawke's personal story and the companions are what made me love it.  however, i think the main reason why i wouldn't replay it again (at least not for another long while) is because i've already completed it so many times.

[MiyuEmi]

@RiKokoFuuu: Sorry I just pile them in together as they are very similar enemies!

[KaiserShep]

@RiKokoFuuu: Sorry I just pile them in together as they are very similar enemies!

Well, they are both members of the He-Man Old God Worshipers' Club.

[Morroian]

To the OP nope, DA2 is far more replayable than DAI IMHO even now.

[QweenBeen]

Replaying DA2 now and a few positive comparisons against DAI come to mind:

1. The oodles of cutscenes when getting side quests. Like zoomed in on the characters faces instead of in the same angle as you play the game

2. The feeling that you're not fetching things for people. You'll come across the object first in your adventures and THEN the person appears on your map, scarves, bottles of wine, .etc. Sure it's weird that I miraculously know who it belongs to, but doesn't feel tedious at all.

3. Regarding plot, I'll admit my opinions on the quanari has changed, since falling in love with Bull, so I have a ton more sympathy for their cause in DA2. The mage / templar conflict doesn't really feel effected for my though. And re: Hawke's fate, I love her more now than ever. I've defined her snarky personality whereas before I switched between kind and snarky. I know who she is, which makes me feel closer to her character knowing her fate.

My 2 cents

[NRieh]

 
All hypothetical future choices which will not have any consequence. C&C should always be within the confines of a game so you can actually interact with a choices's consequence.

Well, if DAI  choices are 'hypothetical future choices' then DAO ones are literally non-existent, because King\Queen Cousland can't even sit his\her noble butt  on the throne, and that's one of the 'big' (if not the biggest) DAO choices, you know. 
 
Also, for DAI choices 'not to have any consecuences' they'd need either to end the franchise  or to declare the first 3 games as a Solas' drunken dream after smoking the wrong kind of lyrium in the Fade. 
 

 
So please stop trying to pretend this game has any actual choices other than all hinted for future

For the Maker's sake, give us an example of the ACTUAL choices from DAO, those which MATTER in game! DR is, probably, the only one, but it's hard to tell how will it be any more important than a WoS.  Rest of the choices are either cosmetic (like which unit is going to be summoned during the Siege) or even less than that.

[Lebanese Dude]

I know you mean well OP and wanted to discuss the feeling of retroactively completing DA2 after knowing DAis storyline, but you had to know the same BSN people will end up just QQing about DA2 and DAI in general while praising DAO right?

[EmBlue]

I found myself really wanting to play DA2 after Inquisition, actually. Although, I think that feeling had a lot to do with DA2 not having so much filler-- there's cutscenes with side quests... it's more cinematic. No rifts and shards. And Hawke is a lot better written as a protagonist.

   But I do think the mage-templar war was significant. Or, at least, can be. I mean, the circles can be completely dissolved after the end of Inquisition, the templar order destroyed. And Hawke's decision to execute/ spare Anders influences what's happening in Kirkwall. If you kill him, then Kirkwall's invaded by Sebastian, right?

[zeypher]

Well, if DAI  choices are 'hypothetical future choices' then DAO ones are literally non-existent, because King\Queen Cousland can't even sit his\her noble butt  on the throne, and that's one of the 'big' (if not the biggest) DAO choices, you know. 
 
Also, for DAI choices 'not to have any consecuences' they'd need either to end the franchise  or to declare the first 3 games as a Solas' drunken dream after smoking the wrong kind of lyrium in the Fade. 
 

 

For the Maker's sake, give us an example of the ACTUAL choices from DAO, those which MATTER in game! DR is, probably, the only one, but it's hard to tell how will it be any more important than a WoS.  Rest of the choices are either cosmetic (like which unit is going to be summoned during the Siege) or even less than that.

 

Lets start:

1: Conner, how you handle him? blood magic? sacrifice? kill his mom? get mages? Multiple options and out comes

 

2: Elves vs werewolves again multiple options and out comes 

 

3: mage tower: mages or templars who you agree with, companions can also die here and if you choose templars too bad you cannot help connor via mage route and dagna cannot be sent to the circle. Again multiple choices with more consequences which cut you out from options

 

4: dwarves again can you get golems? no geolems? forge destroyed? thaig found? Hell you can make branka kill her self with a dialogue if you do it right. a RPG where we can actually use *gasps* words to resolve a situation.

 

5: the entire landsmeet and how it plays out

 

All the outcomes also change what you have and their outcomes are visible right there in the game. You want blood mage spec sacrifice connor to get it since as lore says demons taught it to men. Want reaver side with the dragon fanatic cult. 

 

most of your companions could die, killed off due to you choices. Zevran dead, leliana dead, wynee dead, loghain dead, sten dead, Oghren dead too. All of it was possible since you actually had proper choice and their consequences.

 

I am sorry but it looks like you have never even played origins to even realise why people say it was the best in the series, a RPG series which now is barely one. Even our voiceless wardens had more story and development than the beige inquisitor. 

 

But dont you are dare say the current kids fantasy of a game we got can even compare in terms of C&C to origins and that is why people will always say it was their best game. As a RPG inquisition can barely be called one and its combat is significantly weaker than origins as well.

[Darkly Tranquil]

I know you mean well OP and wanted to discuss the feeling of retroactively completing DA2 after knowing DAis storyline, but you had to know the same BSN people will end up just QQing about DA2 and DAI in general while praising DAO right?

I suppose I'm classed as one of the DAO boosters, but I actually think DA2 hit the sweet spot for combat; it was enough like a tactical RPG to appeal to the old school crowd, and it was fast paced an actiony enough for the ARPG fans. Sure, it needed a few tweaks in terms of parachuting enemies and waving around great swords like they're made of styrofoam, but otherwise it was pretty spot on. Compared to that, DAI's combat feels like a massive regression with its poor TacCam implementation, limited tactics system, and poor AI behaviours; the way combat plays in DAI is pretty much what ruined it for me.