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Anyone else unable to replay Dragon Age II now?


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#76
Joseph Warrick

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The thing is, we won't k ow until the next game if the divine choice even matters. My guess is no. Doesn't fvcking matter.

That's two different things. Maybe DAI choices won't matter in the next game. But DA2 choices don't matter within DA2. DAI choices do matter within DAI. Don't equivocate.

Even if there was little difference in ME3, I would say the suicide mission matters a great deal to ME2 as its own game.

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Well, nice to see Dragon Age II getting a bit of love if nothing else.

But to answer a question about Hawke being sidelined. It's sort of like this: Hawke's story ended with the beginning of the Mage/Templar War. It's the biggest thing to hit Thedas since the last Inquisition, one could argue. But the story does two very disappointing things:

1. The Breach completely overshadows the war, rendering it literally background noise. In Hushed Whispers and Champions of the Just both deal with Corypheus' pawns, neither have anything to do with ending the war. They're recruitment missions. Who will close the Breach? And the whole while, Hawke isn't even mentioned. For me, that was extremely disappointing. All anticipation from Dragon Age II pissed away.

2. When Hawke is mentioned, it's about Corypheus, a character you met in a DLC. I liked him as the badguy, for the most part, but he had nothing to do with Hawke's original and main story. As a result of Inquisition's retconing, Hawke shows up as little more than a cameo and consultant. And finally that horrible Kaiden/Ashley choice...

Sidelined is a nice way of saying thrown in the gutter and left to rot.
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I'm replaying Origins now and having a lot of fun.  May do DA2 afterwards.

 

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to make it through another playthrough of DA:I despite trying. I enjoy the storyline quests, but the fetch quests to collect power are just too boring. It's unfortunate too, because the sidequests in Origins don't make me feel that way at all. 

 

I enjoyed my first playthrough of DA:I a lot, but for me, it has the least replayability of all the DA games. If I could just streamline through main quests and ignore all the side quests (or if the sidequests were more plot driven), it might be different but alas. 


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I'm replaying Origins now and having a lot of fun.  May do DA2 afterwards.
 
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to make it through another playthrough of DA:I despite trying. I enjoy the storyline quests, but the fetch quests to collect power are just too boring. It's unfortunate too, because the sidequests in Origins don't make me feel that way at all. 
 
I enjoyed my first playthrough of DA:I a lot, but for me, it has the least replayability of all the DA games. If I could just streamline through main quests and ignore all the side quests (or if the sidequests were more plot driven), it might be different but alas.


I'd like to replay Origins, but the skill tree is meh, the shape shifting in the mage tree could have been awesome but it's not, archer is boring, don't like the injuries mechanic, and worst of all for me: the fade. God no, not the fade again. Just firing it up and thinking about that part totally deflates me. Just let me kill the little bastard and move on.
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I'd replay DA2. Atleast the banter actually works in DA2.... 



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I really do want to. Dragon Age II is, in many ways, my favourite in the series. But after seeing how things turn out, I just can’t go back and replay it. The Mage/Templar war being so insignificant, Corypheus being a total pushover, and Hawke getting hardcore sidelined...

It's now like a TV show that has a new protagonist and archplot retconned mid season. Makes Dragon Age II feel really hollow and wasted.

Anyone else feeling this, or is it just me?

Since Bioware completely destroyed the feanchise twice, I treat each game as it's own world.

I can't in my sane mind play DAO as if it was the same world DA2 or DAI is

I play DAO as a complete story

I play DA2 as a complete story

I play DAI because I bought it, but I completely ignore it for the 2 previous games

DAO is amazing, the kind of game I like

DA2 is not exactly how I liked the game but I loved Hawke and the story

DAI is well, nothing is good, I play because I bought it (but it didn't do much except making me install a lot of old games to heal myself from its awfulness)

Thedas died after Origins. Whatever amazing thing Thedas could have been died there. Nietzsche says: "Thedas is dead"

I would love if Hawke was the "star" of another franchise, that would have been amazing.

And the Inquisitior, well, Corypheus already stated: "you are a mistake, you should have never existed"


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I didn't need DA:I to confirm how inconsequential and shallow Hawke's journey was. I never managed to replay 2 for more than a half playthrough. It's just too bland of a game to me.

 

I already beat DA:I twice though. The mage/templar branching is interesting enough and there's a lot of things I didn't get to see the first time through. DA:O is the king though, but I was just so satisfied with my first playthrough I never felt I could have the same experience, and playing it a second time would ruin it.


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Wait.  Wait!  STOP!

 

This is the sequel to Dragon Age 2?!?!

 

I don't see the resemblance.


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I actually had more enjoyment and replays out of 2 than inquisition. Sure the repeated areas sucked in 2 but overall it just flowed a lot better for me. Also enjoyed its combat more as well minus some of the ridiculous animations
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Not looking back.

 

DAII was good, but heavily flawed on a fundamental, conceptual and execution level. Inquisition merely joins Origins in demonstrating this fact as both are objectively far better games than DAII.



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Nope, I had the urge to replay 2 after I finished my first playthrough of inquisition and loved it as much as I did the first time I played it. It's also nice to see 2 getting some love, all my friends who play DA hate it and give me **** for how much I like it.
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I will keep replaying all the games in order.    I was able to read Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit and enjoy them even though they were different protagonists.   Did you feel that Bilbo was "sidelined" in the LoTRs?   

 

So no, I don't have that feeling at all.   You are told a tale of the events of Thedas.    I prefer that tale told over the course of many heroes rather than a single god-like messiah hero. 

 

I think I've got the perfect comparison to how some people feel about the protagonist change between DA2 and DAI 

 

The Warden was our Bilbo, but his journey was over. Hawke was our Frodo, but after Fellowship of the Ring, suddenly Two Towers opened up to reveal he'd been suddenly replaced with another Hobbit we'd never even seen before and had no involvement or stake in the story. 


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I think I've got the perfect comparison to how some people feel about the protagonist change between DA2 and DAI 
 
The Warden was our Bilbo, but his journey was over. Hawke was our Frodo, but after Fellowship of the Ring, suddenly Two Towers opened up to reveal he'd been suddenly replaced with another Hobbit we'd never even seen before and had no involvement or stake in the story.

Yeah, basically this.

Hawke's absence in DAI's minimalist final act made it even more hollow and forgettable. The only reason I finished it was for my companions. I love the Inquisition cast... but the Inquisitor and retconned archplot are just reminders that Hawke's story will forever be unfinished.
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The peoplesaying there was no choice in DA:O because you could still win the final battle: stop with thise nonesense.

Right after the other people 'stop nonsense' about DAO having some sort of Very Important Choices That Matter™ and DAI lacking thereof. 

 

One has to admit, that It's either both games have it or neither, because there are plenty of Big events and choices that happen in DAI, and at least one of them DOES have a real impact on the gameplay and the overall story (big part of it, in fact). DAO has nothing to beat 'In hushed Wispers'\'Champions of the Just', you know. And while this one could also possibly be described as a 'cosmetic' and 'insignificant' (by the haters), it's so much more than what all the DAO choices cobined can offer.

 

Me myself - I'm not playing game for any sort of 'choices', I play it for the story, for the characters and for the setting I love. I'll gladly replay the full DA run one day (DA2 included, it's probably still my favourite part), but for now I feel like I need to have some rest from DA. 



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Best part of the game was the party banter in DA2, whomever scripted that was a genius, but DAi i dont even bother listening to them. Think they have maybe 10 lines of random dialog throughout the game which is often repeated like a stuck record.



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As for a replay i may do one as a dwarf noble power hungry for Paragon status through DAO -to DAI, if they ever fix the kb/m crap. just to see how my choices affect the world. But considering they ressurrected Leliana on my current WSI, i doubt it would change much.

 

Overall DAI is bland and heavily scripted by bioware to their taste in regards to WSI.



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Stopped playing DAII when I saw Leandra's head chopped off and sewn on a corpse. 



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I wasnt able to play DA2 after my third playthrough. To much reuse of maps and the backtracking quests.



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I think it's cause we all know that....

 

Everything our IQ did in this game won't matter a f*ck in the next. We probably won't even see him/her.

 

You may hear a passing mention of "The inquisitor".

 

But that's it...



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Yeah, basically this.

Hawke's absence in DAI's minimalist final act made it even more hollow and forgettable. The only reason I finished it was for my companions. I love the Inquisition cast... but the Inquisitor and retconned archplot are just reminders that Hawke's story will forever be unfinished.

 

Pretty much this^



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I'm kind of the same. To be honest, even going back to DAI at the moment doesn't seem too enjoyable. It wasn't a bad game by any means, but I was definitely let down.

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I was going to start Inquisition again... but at this time, I cannot. I think I'll just wait for DLC. Besides, character creation is just too stressful. I'm always getting to Haven and thinking I can't get into this character.

 

So I'm replaying ME. I'd forgotten my PS3 port version was buggy as f*ck, and I'm a bit worried I'll have trouble porting the saves to ME2... so if that happens, I'm gonna sh*t bricks.



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I liked Hawke and DA2 a lot, so I get what the OP is saying...it all feels irrelevant and wasted potential, in the wake of DAI. The nightmare demon even acknowledged this when he taunts Hawke in the fade about not mattering. I don't think that was necessarily what the Devs originally had planned for Hawke....but in way it does make him even more tragic and compelling to me, as the hero that Thedas rejected. He was perhaps the real deal, but was blocked and pushed away at every turn. That happens in real life so often. People don't always choose the leader they deserve or who actually has their best interests in mind. Sometimes we end up with the Corypheus types. Thedas gets a second chance with the Quizzy, but not until after a lot of bloodshed and suffering.

ive been thinking about this for a long time, not just with Hawke. I do think it was intentional, because theyve been doing it to the most influental characters in dragon age lore throughout the entire series, and by that i also mean the books/comics. The central theme seems to be that the hero "saves the day" , but leads a miserable and tragic life as a result, at great personal loss and sacrifice. Theyve been dragging Maric through the mud ever since the book-series inception, and ended his life very tragically in the comics. Bioware writers think  they are being all "edgy" with the "miserable protaganist" shtick. It seems to be a common thing nowdays, because writers want to avoid the happy ending cliche for the protagonist, but at this rate it has become  -the-  cliche because everyone and their grandma think they are being "cool" and "revolutionary" with this kind of writing. Ya ya, we get it, there are no true happy endings, and life is full of grays and nuances, blah blah blah, but BW attempts at "gray", have ironically, pretty much ended up being "extreme misery". The whole thing is becoming really worn out  :rolleyes: . The few people that end up with a modicum of happiness are pretty much insignificant to the overarching lore, such as Rhys and Evangeline. However, it appears that they are breaking this little "miserable hero" trend of theirs with DAI, maybe the rest of the writing team got sick of this nonsense too, or is it perhaps because the more streamlined game/story demands it so? 



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I don't know with what happened between Solas and my elf Inquisitor it seems as though the miserable life for the hero is going to continue.

I just knew he'd break her heart, and he made enough comments that should have been red flags. That scene in the dream plus some conversations won me over, and the red flags no longer seemed to concern me.

Had they kept Cullen looking like he did in DA2 I would not be so against his romance. He was decent in Origin and beautiful in DA2, but unavailable in both. They pulled that nonsense with Anders as well, and made him ugly as they allowed for romance. If they would have given me my dream romance option of Nathaniel Howe I wouldn't care if they made him look like Coriphyeus. He will always be the one that got away for my Warden and my Champion.

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I have the opposite problem, I can't play Inquisition because the combat mechanics and controls are so much worse than DA2. 

 This.

 

I kinda get used to controls on PC after ~240 hours in game but anyway I give up on second playthrough after Adamant. Just thinking about clearing all maps AGAIN gives me headache ( and no.. I can't just pass it)  For now..

 

So I'm now replaying DA 2 after 3-4 years of no-playing it at all and this time all DLCs are included. :3