Aaah Vampires the Masquerade...so good. I'm trying out Vampires Bloodlines with latest community patch now. Brilliant, wonderful game so far.
Troika Games made some potentially good games that were marred by being bugfests even after the patches. (Bloodlines, Arcanum and TOEE). The communities have made them better. Arcanum was the least buggy of the three.
The D & D ruleset was heavily modified for those games. The BG1, BG2 and NWN manuals had whole chapters dedicated to explaining the differences after first explaining the D & D system.
The problem with Planescape was that the very few gamers played that world in tabletop. That unfamilarity cause the video game itself to barely break even financially. The game was a critical success but financially a dud when it first came out.
I didn't know that, thank you.
I was never able as kid or teenager to find enough people to try tabletop RPG, so, even though I had a DnD box (red one with a beautiful dragon drawing on it) since the age of 7 or something, I really discovered DnD with BG2. and fell in love with BW, PC gaming, RPG and a little DnD. So, I'm biased.
Planescape Torment was not that memorable for me (impressive game though). Quests like the Planar Sphere or the one with Haerdalis, I remember fondly to these days.
Same thing with White Wolf and World of Darkness, I discovered it with the Pc game. And lastly, 300+ pages of game manual. Yes please!
Modifié par Ashen Nedra, 20 janvier 2015 - 08:25 .
I've really wanted to play VTM for about 10 years now, but I never have. It always looked like it plays like a TPS. Is this not the case?
EDIT: Well, a third person action game, at any rate.
The combat system is that of a third-person action game yes. But you can choose between melee and firearms, have Disciplines as magic, travel through time, have companions of almost all clans. It's a somewhat linear, story-driven game. Two settings (WOD and 'modern' new-York). Brilliant imho.
Come to think of it, the combat is a lot similar to DAI, only better (not sarcasm at all).
Troika Games made some potentially good games that were marred by being bugfests even after the patches. (Bloodlines, Arcanum and TOEE). The communities have made them better. Arcanum was the least buggy of the three.
Loved this one, couldn't finish it, broke game balance if I remember correctly. A little ugly though for me, even at the times.
what's TOEE?
Modifié par Ashen Nedra, 20 janvier 2015 - 08:24 .
Loved this one, couldn't finish it, broke game balance if I remember correctly. A little ugly though for me, even at the times.
what's TOEE?
Temple of Elemental Evil based on the 3.5 ruleset. On another note Troika was making a post apocalyptic cRPG (aka Fallout 3). Troika sadly went bankrupt. So Bethesda eneded up making Fallout 3.
Temple of Elemental Evil based on the 3.5 ruleset. On another note Troika was making a post apocalyptic cRPG (aka Fallout 3). Troika sadly went bankrupt. So Bethesda eneded up making Fallout 3.
I played Wasteland 2 this year and despite bugs and AI issues, loved it. Are those the same guys from Troika? Hated Fallout 3, never found the Radio Tower, broke game balance (again) before that. Oblivion with guns
Temple of Elemental Evil.
Also, at the vanguard of gay romance - after a fashion.
Also, at the vanguard of gay romance - after a fashion.
ok is it on GOG? I'll check it out.
dnd ultimate rpg my butt that is purely an opinion of yours it is not a fact.
I really do agree with the OP. Variability is a good thing when it comes to games in general, much less RPGs. Dragon Age has suffered as Bioware's shoved players into a box that they're unable to get out of, and the sad thing is a lot of people don't even care. If it doesn't affect their playstyle, nobody at all must need it, right?
Aaah Vampires the Masquerade...so good. I'm trying out Vampires Bloodlines with latest community patch now. Brilliant, wonderful game so far.
Haha, oddly enough, I haven't played Bloodlines since I finished it near release - so I decided to reinstall with the latest community patches. Been enjoying it while I wait for Bioware to get off it and make DAI acceptably playable.
Haha, oddly enough, I haven't played Bloodlines since I finished it near release - so I decided to reinstall with the latest community patches. Been enjoying it while I wait for Bioware to get off it and make DAI acceptably playable.
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The D & D ruleset was heavily modified for those games. The BG1, BG2 and NWN manuals had whole chapters dedicated to explaining the differences after first explaining the D & D system.
My bet is that it's because D&D is a terrible RPG system.
Edit: looks like I win that bet. Seriously, guys, that system was obsolete in the 80's, and 2nd ed did nothing to fix it, though 3.0 and 3.5 made substantial improvements.
Sez you!
Did anybody actually play DnD 1.0? Holy strawman argument. aDnD is where it everybody I know got into it. 2.0 was complicated sure. But allowed for some very intricate role playing as a result. DnD 3.0 / 3.5 streamlined it quite a bit, limited some of that but made for fewer heated arguments over the rules. I do prefer 3.5 the most. To say DnD is obsolete is to say, music is obsolete, or air is no fun to breathe, or you don't like playing poker and drinking whisky with your friends. Are you a stuck in a bubble? DnD 1.0 the original is your basis? Are you kidding me?
No video game did DnD better justice than NwN IMO, definitely not from a story stand point but from a rule set standpoint no game did it better. DnD is meant to a have DM to interpret the rules. Making it impossible for videogames to get it perfect, but NWN nailed the rule set. Oh and BTW just like everyone of these game the modding community is what made it shine.
And for the guy who said no one played Planescape on Table top. eff that. I played Planescape on Table Top. And to this day when we get to a certain level, there always a trip to Sigil.
GURPS? Really? What bargain bin dust closet did y'all come out of? what a mess!! Unless you wanna argue all day.
Never had a chance to play WW Vampire tho, always did want to. Heard a lot of good things.
Though i agree with you OP i think Bio have mentioned they only interested in action adventure games with a healthy dose of PC. The letters RPG are used only as advertising.
I think we all who want a proper RPG start looking elsewhere.
Think of this a EA sports game has more stats, career, attributes for a character than the so called rpgs do.
Actually this is true. Career mode in Fifa gives you more skill to place points on than Dragon Age, which they claim is an rpg.
That is actually quite shocking. A game about kicking a ball around is more complex than a roleplaying game. And it offers more freedom to the player, as well.
Did anybody actually play DnD 1.0? Holy strawman argument. aDnD is where it everybody I know got into it.
I'd like a storage box for not only practical reasons but for sentimental reasons. When Alistair sent me a medal, I wanted to keep it and when Zevran sent me two different pendants, I wanted to keep them too. Sure I can find a zillion more of those medals and pendants in loot but those were special. Also, I want to be able to keep that bloody Teddy Bear. We shouldn't have to destroy or sell things like that just because we don't have inventory space. We find engagement ring with a dead couple, a hand written herb book...things like that...I want to save them as a way of honoring the people who are harmed by the war and the breach. That's my simple way of role playing, even though it doesn't really make a difference in the game.
Actually this is true. Career mode in Fifa gives you more skill to place points on than Dragon Age, which they claim is an rpg.
That is actually quite shocking. A game about kicking a ball around is more complex than a roleplaying game. And it offers more freedom to the player, as well.
Check out their nba games, madden as well. It is mind boggling that a sports game offers us more complexity to have proper characters than rpgs. Before sport games were simple and rpgs complex and now that trend has reversed. This also proves that their lame excuse that people do not like complexity is wrong.
I always had a soft spot for Palladium Fantasy myself.. yeah and Rifts etc.
Actually this is true. Career mode in Fifa gives you more skill to place points on than Dragon Age, which they claim is an rpg.
That is actually quite shocking. A game about kicking a ball around is more complex than a roleplaying game. And it offers more freedom to the player, as well.
Well, depending on the kind of freedom we want. Probably not the only one coming from a Pen and Paper background, but I have very little interest in the kind of freedom sports games offer. It's the same kind of freedom as people who claim to be roleplaying during combat, which I don't consider possible. I see combat as a way to take breaks from the narrative, not really the other way around.
Sez you!
Did anybody actually play DnD 1.0? Holy strawman argument. aDnD is where it everybody I know got into it. 2.0 was complicated sure. But allowed for some very intricate role playing as a result. DnD 3.0 / 3.5 streamlined it quite a bit, limited some of that but made for fewer heated arguments over the rules. I do prefer 3.5 the most. To say DnD is obsolete is to say, music is obsolete, or air is no fun to breathe, or you don't like playing poker and drinking whisky with your friends. Are you a stuck in a bubble? DnD 1.0 the original is your basis? Are you kidding me?
No video game did DnD better justice than NwN IMO, definitely not from a story stand point but from a rule set standpoint no game did it better. DnD is meant to a have DM to interpret the rules. Making it impossible for videogames to get it perfect, but NWN nailed the rule set. Oh and BTW just like everyone of these game the modding community is what made it shine.
And for the guy who said no one played Planescape on Table top. eff that. I played Planescape on Table Top. And to this day when we get to a certain level, there always a trip to Sigil.
Actually I never said that no one played Planescape. What I said as a setting for a video game very few gamers knew about it compared to other settings like GreyHawk, Forgotten Realms even Spelljammer.
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