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[dragonflight288]

Rome had both as did a lot of cultures. A lot of the ancient civilizations believed in both. The idea that one precludes the other is something thats a recent belief.

 

And is something I never actually bought. 

[Solbranthius]

Acting as though Gaspard wouldn't have done the same thing. At least Celene tried to find an alternative. Gaspard would have burned the alienage without heistation.

 

Yet he didn't, Celene did. She's the one to blame for it - not Gaspard.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Yet he didn't, Celene did. She's the one to blame for it - not Gaspard.

And yet he outright says he's going to execute people who don't agree with him and he's made death threats to the Council of Heralds. How is he morally better than Celene? I always laugh when Gaspard supporters act as though Gaspard is this paragon of morality and virtue despite being a warmongering racist usurper.

[MoonDrummer]

And yet he outright says he's going to execute people who don't agree with him and he's made death threats to the Council of Heralds. How is he morally better than Celene? I always laugh when Gaspard supporters act as though Gaspard is this paragon of morality and virtue despite being a dashingly good-looking war hero.

[thesuperdarkone2]

 

And yet he outright says he's going to execute people who don't agree with him and he's made death threats to the Council of Heralds. How is he morally better than Celene? I always laugh when Gaspard supporters act as though Gaspard is this paragon of morality and virtue despite being a dashingly good-looking war hero.

 

Who is racist, makes plans to start a war that will no doubt cost lives on both sides, and who executes anyone who doesn't agree with him. He's nothing more than a bully and brute who thinks a hammer is the only way to solve everything. Gaspard outright admits that he's not a good ruler and would have Remarche do much of the administration in TME. Honestly, this comment just shows how deluded Gaspard supporters are.

 

P.S. I find it funny how Bhelen supports Celene while Harrowmont supports Gaspard. Are the devs trying to imply something?

[Solbranthius]

And yet he outright says he's going to execute people who don't agree with him and he's made death threats to the Council of Heralds. How is he morally better than Celene? I always laugh when Gaspard supporters act as though Gaspard is this paragon of morality and virtue despite being a warmongering racist usurper.

 

You know what I always laugh at? Posters like you. You've been arguing desperately over a matter of days spreading all sorts of misinformation and desperately trying to brand anyone who defends Gaspard's actions as biased whilst you yourself ironically defend everything Celene does and twist her shady actions as somehow being Gaspard's fault.

 

I actually like Gaspard, Briala and Celene. So why you're claiming everybody deploying logic as a 'Celene hater' is beyond me.

[Barquiel]

Yet he didn't, Celene did. She's the one to blame for it - not Gaspard.

Gaspard is just as guilty (if not more) because he sabotaged Celene's efforts to solve the crisis peacefully. Had Gaspard not tried to paint her as beholden to elves the uprising would have ended with the assassination of that noble. In the book, even Briala said that Celene had no real choice in the matter.

[MoonDrummer]

Who is loving, makes plans to start a war to end all wars, no doubt saving countless lives on both sides, and who executes anyone who puts themselves above the good of Orlais. He's far more than a bully and a brute who thinks a hammer is the only way to solve everything. Gaspard outright admits that he's a more than capable ruler, who would have his trusted friend and advisor, Remarche do some of the administration in TME. Honestly, this comment just shows how stunningly handsome Gaspard supporters are.

 

P.S. I find it funny how Bhelen supports Celene while Harrowmont supports Gaspard. Are the devs trying to imply that they share a bond of honour as only two manly men could.

[Master Warder Z_]

I am rather handsome...

[draken-heart]

P.S. I find it funny how Bhelen supports Celene while Harrowmont supports Gaspard. Are the devs trying to imply something?

Wait, what?

[Cratto]

My choice: Celene ruling with Briala - stable and strong Orlais but not expanionist.

 

Though all three together is probably best for the Inquisition (if risky) as the inquisition is effectively the guarantor of peace and stability in the country giving you lots of power and influence.

 

Worst is probably Gaspard ruling alone - essentially expansionist and ruling with a brutal, iron fist. War with neighbours is inevitable as is political instability.

[Augustei]

Not even in February and we already have nominees for Post of the Year. 

Idk, darkone is pretty good at comedy to, the whole pressing arguments in a direction to go in circles thing, And then bringing up the Bhelen Harrowmont point again, that part had me in stiches XD

[dragonflight288]

The way I see it, there is a huge difference between Bhelen and Gaspard.

 

Both are very brutal in trying to get what they want, but they have very different methods.

 

Bhelen played the game, made deals and alliances for months, maybe years just to kill one older brother and frame the other sibling. He's just as ruthless as Gaspard, but he's also very subtle and he plays the game, and has support of most of the nobility.

 

Gaspard is like a hammer that treats ever problem like a nail. Soldiers, war, and direct action is the only thing he really knows. He's a brilliant military commander, probably Orlais' best general, but he despises and tries to avoid the game and making nice with nobles, rather he will throw his weight and his army around to make his point. 

 

According to the Origins epilogue, Bhelen tries to do more to improve Orzammar's lifeline and institute policies that'll help it advance and grow militarily, economically, and tries to improve diplomatic realtions with the surface. He'll just backstab, poison, blackmail anyone who gets in his way. Gaspard wants to declare war and hope it solves Orlais's political issues. 

 

Gaspard is a great general, but he is not the ruler Bhelen is. 

[draken-heart]

Who is loving, makes plans to start a war to end all wars, no doubt saving countless lives on both sides, and who executes anyone who puts themselves above the good of Orlais. He's far more than a bully and a brute who thinks a hammer is the only way to solve everything. Gaspard outright admits that he's a more than capable ruler, who would have his trusted friend and advisor, Remarche do some of the administration in TME. Honestly, this comment just shows how stunningly handsome Gaspard supporters are.
 
P.S. I find it funny how Bhelen supports Celene while Harrowmont supports Gaspard. Are the devs trying to imply that they share a bond of honour as only two manly men could.

Honestly, I think they are simply trying to "imply" similarities in the way the two competitors for each pairing runs. Bhelen and Celene rule more progressively, while Harrowmont and Gaspard are more traditionalist (Gaspard is a traditionalist in the same way as harrowmont when it comes to the second class citizens).

[Augustei]

Well this is endlessly fascinating but it doesn't answer one important question.

Is there any thai dish better than yellow curry chicken? Because I think there is not.

[Karlone123]

I like and respect Gaspard for being a military man and maintaining a code of honour, though I know he is not an easy man. Whereas Celene is too much of a politician with a secret love affair.

[Steelcan]

 

Worst is probably Gaspard ruling alone - essentially expansionist and ruling with a brutal, iron fist. War with neighbours is inevitable as is political instability.

except for the part where it isn't, like at all

 

in any way

[Steelcan]

Well this is endlessly fascinating but it doesn't answer one important question.

Is there any thai dish better than yellow curry chicken? Because I think there is not.

clearly has never had Alligator Pappadeaux

[Augustei]

clearly has never had Alligator Pappadeaux

Nay, isn't that Cajun though anyway?
I saw the pic you linked in another thread, to me it looks kind of like those package frozen salt and pepper squid (I hate that stuff)
But yeah never had Alligator, Whats it comparable to?

[draken-heart]

except for the part where it isn't, like at all
 
in any way

Except we do not knot at all who is worst, like at all. In any way whatsoever.

What we do know is that Celene + Briala = resurgent Orlais, while Gaspard ruling alone = Nobles are afraid of moving against him.

[Master Warder Z_]

I think Orlais returning to the matter of retaking lost territory is a good thing.

Perrendale has languished under the rule of Nevarra long enough.

[thesuperdarkone2]

except for the part where it isn't, like at all

 

in any way

Gaspard outright says that he knows people will oppose him but that things will come down after some heads roll which means he plans on executing people who oppose him. His ending even outright says he kills all the people who oppose him. It also says that the only reason there aren't rebellions is because his enemies are afraid of the Inquisition but that they will soon get over it and rebel. Gaspard's ending shows that his rule is uncertain as killing people will only work for so long. Why is it so hard for you people to see.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Idk, darkone is pretty good at comedy to, the whole pressing arguments in a direction to go in circles thing, And then bringing up the Bhelen Harrowmont point again, that part had me in stiches XD

You people just can't handle the truth. But go ahead, you are just proving my point that Gaspard supporters just can't handle that their choice is just a racist, warmongering a-hole.