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i tweeted at them on their personal pages both for dragon age and bioware ignore me now



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the amulet farming is safe for now as i hear but don't worry they will unintentionally fix that later and not anything else making us oh some more happy. and if they do I am doing a new petition for a full refund from bioware not credit but refund mucho denaro 59.99 and i will get petition after petition sent in till its like waking from a living nightmare seeing them again and again because i am pissed for the lack of caring they have for the gamer and what they want they ruined enough i mean look at mass effect 3 that train wreak still exists.

 

Well, you don't really have a right to demand a full refund after playing through the whole game, especially if you got it few months ago. That ship has sailed... like few months ago. Also you are not entitled to refund for the company's poor post-release care. You would be entitled to a refund if you installed the game, discovered it has shitty controls and that the devs lied to you prior release and decided to demand a refund immediately. And even that would depend on the country you live in.

 

I don't know if the ME3 is some snarky trolling attempt, but they actually tried to fix the problems and they did. If you compare their approach back then and now it is miles different. Back then they cared (or at least pretended they care) about what fans think, now they don't even pretend.



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Also, hell yes I want all my companions wearing matching armor and if we are a high level, then yes, I want our armor to all reflect that.


Why do you want everyone in matching armor?

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I don't know if the ME3 is some snarky trolling attempt, but they actually tried to fix the problems and they did. If you compare their approach back then and now it is miles different. Back then they cared (or at least pretended they care) about what fans think, now they don't even pretend.


This is a bit confused. It's not like there's an EC-equivalent they can announce for PC bugs.

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This is a bit confused. It's not like there's an EC-equivalent they can announce for PC bugs.

 

What about a complete UI + controls overhaul that would finally feel like it was made "by PC gamers for PC gamers" and we weren't just lied straight to our faces? :P

 

There are honestly many things they could do, but they chose silence and not fixing core issues. From a layman's point of view it seems like they either don't have the resources to do it (people transferred to other projects, small budget for post-release care, etc.) or they simply don't give a flying f*ck after all those shiny GOTY awards they had gotten and those huge sales that even surpassed EA's expectations.



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nope that they don't you actually could reach an actual living breathing person back then on ea hotline now it directs you to the website then now hire people to forum toll for them they aren't high ups or mangers that can't help you they are just here to send feed back to the company and answer simple question and i was going for the story line of mass effect 3 that was the train wreak. AS for a refund you be surprised what you can do with the time you have finding the right number and the right person to talk to i say that because i been their done that my most successful was Verizon was off for a whole week no net called the 1800 verizon bs talk to a girl in the states here was told that's your service deal with it or have none. Yeah that one simple screw up that she said when i found the right number cost her who knows what but got me 3 months free. but its all on what you got and how you go about it. Not to mention for most 360 and ps3 user they still haven't fully played the game and not the slim but old school 360 and ps3 can't play and handle for some unknown reason they released an unfinished unplayable game to them and to me that's not fair to them i may have played it through but many still have no clue it corypheus and they had it since dec. Not to mention they announced dlc coming up on the game that still is broken that still has unobtainable/tropes achievements and jams just like mine on xbone. I mean hell I set up sleazy74 and got him back in the game while a dam chat couldn't tell him the obvious basic way to fix his jam yet me a guy that is just a simple pc repair guy that knows more of the basics told and did more then they did and i am a mere customer/gamer. I mean seriously Bioware get your sh#t together even A civilian is out shining your customer support 



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Why do you want everyone in matching armor?

Well, because I just do? I like the look of a unified team. I like crafting armor that matches a style I am going for. In Mass Effect, I remember replaying the same character in NG+ until everyone had a set of Colossus armor. In Skyrim, I always had a matching armor, or some variation of it, on my companions. It's just how I like to play. I actually like that everyone has their own little style of armor, but I want the materials, colors, etc to match because I like it visually. 

 

I am not directing this at you, since I don't know the reason you asked, but in this argument on several of these glitch threads, I have seen people act incredulous that glitch-supporters want to have certain armor styles for their companions and it boggles my mind why anyone would have to ask such a question in an rpg where you can craft different armors and styles. It's like asking someone, "Why on earth would you eat a hamburger when you go to McDonald's?" I assume they created different "looks" to their materials so that people can enjoy crafting various styles and colors, limited as they are, so I don't see why it's a shock that some actually want to engage in the roleplaying aspect of it. 

 

I like my team pimped out. It's how I represent.


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you don't roleplay if you don't represent that custom team attire. 



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btw anyone know the standing point on the saveditor that was in the works back in dec just saying that would fix some underlining problems until lameware company re-enforced their encryption or destroyed that too.



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you don't roleplay if you don't represent that custom team attire.


Well, I do like that street cred.

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btw anyone know the standing point on the saveditor that was in the works back in dec just saying that would fix some underlining problems until lameware company re-enforced their encryption or destroyed that too.

 

Save editor? So you can play offline without the Keep? Why? For playing the vanilla version without the fixed dupe glitch? Just use cheat engine for that.



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What harm does infinite materials / gold really do? You are NOT competing with anyone online. 

 

I'm nearly finished with my second playthrough (first as a warrior, second as a mage) and I don't see what all the fuss is about. Not once have I felt like the quantity of crafting materials was lacking. Granted, it is a little annoying to have to pickup nearly every single resource along your path, but I just focus on the ones I know I need. I've always had more than enough to keep the party members I use most frequently outfitted with level appropriate gear. If you're trying to put teir 3 mats on tier 1 gear, you are doing something wrong. It's completely overkill. Match your mats and gear tier levels and you will have plenty (i.e. tier 2 mats on tier 2 gear, etc.). I'm fairly certain this is why both mats and schematics have tiers. Infinite mats would make it too easy. Setting limits actually ties loosely into the story by forcing you to manage your resources; which is something you would have to do in a position of leadership.

 

There are also ways to get some of the most valuable tier 3 mats with very little extra effort. Need Silverite? Make a few passes through the tunnel in Emprise Du Lion. Need Great Bear Hide? Follow the northern section of river in Emerald Graves. They drop 2-10 hides each. There's also a war table mission called "Gather Leather". If you have Leliana complete this mission, you get Great Bear Hides every time. Need Dales Loden wool? Kill every Red Templar in sight and you will never run out unless you're wasting it. And if you do, there's a group of Red Templars in Emprise Du Lion that always respawns by an archway near the bone tower or whatever its called. I could go on and on with where tier 3 mats can be found and I haven't even completed my second playthrough. As for tier 4, they're labelled "rare" for a reason.

 

Here's a couple of gameplay tips: First, if you're upgrading your gear every time you get a schematic that's a tiny bit better than the one you have, you are wasting mats. This is completely unnecessary. Second, make use of the gear you pick up along the way for your companions. There's plenty of it that is nearly as good as anything you can craft until later in the game, by which point you should have accumulated enough mats to make whatever you want.

 

Do I agree with having to farm for mats and gear in a single player game? Not really. But on the whole, the crafting system is one of the better single player crafting systems I've seen. And there's enough mats to keep yourself and most of your companions in excellent gear throughout the game without an excess of farming. Quit whining about them fixing a bug that allowed you to circumvent playing the game as it was intended to be played. It's called a "bug" for a reason. That means its NOT supposed to work that way.


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yes i have seen the trainers that are out but for xbone and ps4 that doesn't work for the system and pc is a simple fix but it's had its share of problems more worse then we are experiencing. and downgrading it to day one offline no keep makes its urber lame trust me your item blimp only highlights the item in a large radius at that but no map location like the prior update before patch 4. I mean seriously are you on here to help or hinder because that's one thing i can't stand people on help forums that aren't here to help that only want to voice their high and mighty opinion on why cheating and modding is lame. Each gamer click has a differnt way of playing and single player mod the cheats/ glitch harmed no one. Its lame preteen noobs that ruin and complain about un-problematic  things just to be little snitches and whiny a$$ b#tches.



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Do I agree with having to farm for mats and gear in a single player game? Not really. But on the whole, the crafting system is one of the better single player crafting systems I've seen. And there's enough mats to keep yourself and most of your companions in excellent gear throughout the game without an excess of farming. Quit whining about them fixing a bug that allowed you to circumvent playing the game as it was intended to be played. It's called a "bug" for a reason. That means its NOT supposed to work that way.

 

The are not at all enough mats to keep yourself and most of your companions in excellent gear without excessive farming and I am talking only about the late game. Yeah, running around Emprise for silverite is not that hard if you only want the basic mats, you will very quickly have more silverite and dawnstone than you could ever use. The problem are FADE-TOUCHED materials. It is absolutely not ok for them to have less than 1% chance of dropping. That is justifiable in MMOs, where the point is to grind sh*t all they long, it is not ok in story-driven SP game. It is not ok to force the player to run the same route 20 times or just stand by a metal node and spam f5 + F + f9 if he wants to have the excellent gear you are talking about. I am not saying shower the player in epic loot and tons of mats all the time, but this current system is just madness.

 

Or funny thing how there are not enough Revenants in the whole game to craft even 1 top tier rune :D Except that it is not really funny, it is in fact sad just as the whole RNG loot system.

 

And yeah, the crafting system itself is awesome. That is why I don't see a reason to punish players who want to utilize it to its full potential a bit sooner than after 200 hours into the game, when there is only pathetic Corypheus left.



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Well, you don't really have a right to demand a full refund after playing through the whole game, especially if you got it few months ago. That ship has sailed... like few months ago. Also you are not entitled to refund for the company's poor post-release care. You would be entitled to a refund if you installed the game, discovered it has shitty controls and that the devs lied to you prior release and decided to demand a refund immediately. And even that would depend on the country you live in.

 

 

If I purchase a fully functional game that I enjoy and then the developer releases a "patch" that breaks the game such that I can't play it for more than 15 minutes without a crash; I think I'm entitled to a refund. Especially when they don't fix it, immediately.


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You want the fix on jerome620 here is how straight out of my mouth again the only way the way the handbook hotline won't tell you delete all the saves i know bs but has to be down next go off line and reinstall the game completely next go back online and reinstall the update a big problem they don't tell you is when being cluster f#$ked by installing the game and updating as it does simultaneously it can corrupt data on save and not get the full functioning game properly installed.So give that a try i know its bs and you shouldn't have to but it's the small details they leave out that screw you over.



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The are not at all enough mats to keep yourself and most of your companions in excellent gear without excessive farming and I am talking only about the late game. Yeah, running around Emprise for silverite is not that hard if you only want the basic mats, you will very quickly have more silverite and dawnstone than you could ever use. The problem are FADE-TOUCHED materials. It is absolutely not ok for them to have less than 1% chance of dropping. That is justifiable in MMOs, where the point is to grind sh*t all they long, it is not ok in story-driven SP game. It is not ok to force the player to run the same route 20 times or just stand by a metal node and spam f5 + F + f9 if he wants to have the excellent gear you are talking about. I am not saying shower the player in epic loot and tons of mats all the time, but this current system is just madness.

 

Or funny thing how there are not enough Revenants in the whole game to craft even 1 top tier rune :D Except that it is not really funny, it is in fact sad just as the whole RNG loot system.

 

And yeah, the crafting system itself is awesome. That is why I don't see a reason to punish players who want to utilize it to its full potential a bit sooner than after 200 hours into the game, when there is only pathetic Corypheus left.

 

1. If you collect mats and kill beasts as you explore instead of rushing through the quests in the zone and then going back to farm later, you should have plenty of mats. I have never at any point felt like my gear was so weak I had to go farm to craft an upgrade. I always had enough mats ready to go. At worst, I have a couple of times been short on one item and had to spend 5 minutes farming it.

 

2. Fade-touched mats are labelled as "rare". I addressed this already. I also don't understand the complaint about drop rate. I get far more fade-touched mats now than on my first playthrough before the patches. Granted most of them are garbage, but if anything, it seems like they increased the drop rate.

 

3. There are, in-fact, enough Revenants. I collected exactly 6 hearts on my first playthough with no extra farming. These can also be farmed. Find a rift that spawns a revenant, kill the revenant, collect the heart and run out of range so the rift resets. Rinse, repeat. Not sure if this qualifies as an exploit but to your original point about there not being enough, you are incorrect.

 

4. 200 hours is a bit of an exaggeration. On my first playthough I killed most of the dragons and had full tier 4 gear around the 100 hour mark, and I'm a bit of a completionist.



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Now lets not forget the substantial amount of gold dropped and gained in quests to buy the schematic you want oh wait never mind you barely get dead squat in gold on quests and table missions so there is your other problems to gain a nice schematic you have to slave till the end game to have enough just to get the gold to buy the schematic you want. 



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You want the fix on jerome620 here is how straight out of my mouth again the only way the way the handbook hotline won't tell you delete all the saves i know bs but has to be down next go off line and reinstall the game completely next go back online and reinstall the update a big problem they don't tell you is when being cluster f#$ked by installing the game and updating as it does simultaneously it can corrupt data on save and not get the full functioning game properly installed.So give that a try i know its bs and you shouldn't have to but it's the small details they leave out that screw you over.

 

I believe what I'm experiencing is the DirectX issue as I've seen that error message several times and I have an nVidia GTX970. My complaint is simply that, pre-patch, the crashes were occasional and the game was still playable. Now, any time I enter a cutscene or start a dialogue, there's about a 90% chance the game will crash. When I played through "Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts" the game crashed on me 16 times in 3 hours. It never did that prior to the latest patch.



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Now lets not forget the substantial amount of gold dropped and gained in quests to buy the schematic you want oh wait never mind you barely get dead squat in gold on quests and table missions so there is your other problems to gain a nice schematic you have to slave till the end game to have enough just to get the gold to buy the schematic you want. 

 

Maybe its just the way I play but again, I've not experienced this problem. I guess playing as a completionist is what Bioware intended. I do all the quests, pickup the crappy loot, sell it and all the garbage "valuables" and I seem to have enough money when I come across a schematic I want. I don't buy them all either, I pick and choose specific ones based on which person I'm trying to upgrade. As one person pointed out in a prior post, the crappy AI makes your companions so ineffectual in combat, trying to keep their gear perfectly up to date is a waste of time and resources.



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ah yea your pc i would suggest upgrading graphics card or ram but sadly in this case its a case of the stupids on the bioware half there is only on fix a patch done on a board by a fell pcer or wait for the well seasoned well tuned and well customer oriented crew of bioware to fix their mistake you might be waiting a while so.......... Yeah check on those self repairs done by other pc gamers yeah........



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i speak of the well rounded hissing waste gear that's uber expensive you waste all your money on one or two outfits and have nothing for upgrading the outfit it's so fing lame and frustrating i can see them pulling a gta and selling bundle packs of gold and crafting material for money on live and pc. At that piont f the refund  I am killing it with fire.



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GTX 970 is a brand new card. Which I'm sure is part of the problem. But again, the game worked at a playable level prior to the patch. Now its just plain broken.



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If I purchase a fully functional game that I enjoy and then the developer releases a "patch" that breaks the game such that I can't play it for more than 15 minutes without a crash; I think I'm entitled to a refund. Especially when they don't fix it, immediately.

 

No you are not. You might be entitled to it on moral grounds, but good luck with that. You are unfortunatelly not entitled on legal grounds and that is the one that matters.



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So pre the agreement and policy we agree to that guaranties a fully functional playable game. Your say the agreement is null void when we have played it mostly and now it doesn't work at all. Of course it makes since those consumer guidelines and policies you agree to mean nothing lol ah sure a class action lawsuit backed by thousands of gamers have no affect on the situation what so ever. That's where you sir are wrong if that was the case they would never attempt to fix it they would make no effort to talk or address anything and would have taken your money and gone with it alright. Agreements and policies are there for a reason hense love the law understand the law and it will work in your favor.