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[Lestatman]

You don't know that.
The removal has actually caused many to uninstall their games.
Many who relied on the exploits who have at most 1 hour per day to even play a game are no longer caring because they no longer play the game.
Just because it seems to you that the outcry has quieted down does not mean that the issue shouldn't be pressed anymore and Bioware needs to realize they lost part of their fan base due to the decision to remove the exploits.

True I don't know that but I'm only going by what I've experienced from Bioware in the past.  Like other ppl I've stopped playing and at the moment have no intention of playing it again.

 

I am also aware that ppl are complaining about the exploit being removed on other forums and sites and I hope and sincerely do hope that it is brought back and that's why I keep having a look at the forums from time to time in the hope Bioware prove me wrong.

[Bocochoco]

True I don't know that but I'm only going by what I've experienced from Bioware in the past.  Like other ppl I've stopped playing and at the moment have no intention of playing it again.
 
I am also aware that ppl are complaining about the exploit being removed on other forums and sites and I hope and sincerely do hope that it is brought back and that's why I keep having a look at the forums from time to time in the hope Bioware prove me wrong.

It is dosheartening for sure but they HAVE listened to their fans in the past and the exploit removal may resonate with them if pressed further.

[xkg]

Any news on the topic ? Haven't lurked the forum quite for few days since I cant stop playing DW8:Empires.

24/7 for almost week, HELP, someone has to stop me 

 

End of my days are near, heheeh

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[Bocochoco]

Any news on the topic ? Haven't lurked the forum quite for few days since I cant stop playing DW8:Empires.
24/7 for almost week, HELP, someone has to stop me 
 
End of my days are near, heheeh

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Nothing man, not even a mention.
They removed the amulet exploit even now. Screwed it up too.

[Xiolyrr Zoharei]

Any news on the topic ? Haven't lurked the forum quite for few days since I cant stop playing DW8:Empires.

24/7 for almost week, HELP, someone has to stop me 

 

End of my days are near, heheeh

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It's like the ME 3 ending debacle but on a smaller scale since not everyone even knew about the exploits. Guaranteed many of them were probably bored out of their minds as well with the farming.

 

The best course of action for Bioware at this point is to remain silent and hope for the patch drama to die down while DAI purist fans speak for them. We'll hear from Bioware as soon it's time for some paid DLC to be released. Other than that, expect a blog update about their next patch. As for a Bioware rep actually posting a legitimate response to this issue in these forums, don't hold your breath.

[wepeel_]

I'm not sure what's new here. Throughout the history of console games players have been at the mercy of whatever the developers decide the game should be like. Sometimes there's an exploit that doesn't get fixed, sometimes there's new game+, but sometimes there's nothing at all except a new grind every playthrough and then you have to live with it. If you want to take control over your game and what you can do within it, play it on PC.

[ichbintot]

Patch 5 has me very depressed

[Xiolyrr Zoharei]

I'm not sure what's new here. Throughout the history of console games players have been at the mercy of whatever the developers decide the game should be like. Sometimes there's an exploit that doesn't get fixed, sometimes there's new game+, but sometimes there's nothing at all except a new grind every playthrough and then you have to live with it. If you want to take control over your game and what you can do within it, play it on PC.

 

Agreed but the main thing that's different about this is similar exploits still exist in previous Dragon Age games. Why the sudden sense of urgency and 'purist' code of ethics to patch these exploits when they affect no one's game but the individual player?

[ichbintot]

I think theres a lesson in here about how people should mind their own business when it comes to single player. Just because you're against something doesn't mean it should automatically be banned forever. If you're against exploits, that's fine, just don't push those beliefs onto others who feel differently. It's immature and downright ignorant and you should be ashamed.

[Meave]

I think theres a lesson in here about how people should mind their own business when it comes to single player. Just because you're against something doesn't mean it should automatically be banned forever. If you're against exploits, that's fine, just don't push those beliefs onto others who feel differently. It's immature and downright ignorant and you should be ashamed.

 

interesting, you do exactly the same, except you're forcing exploits to game while players wants it entirely without exploits. How would it make you feel if you completed reached the highest level in lets say D3 hardcore mode put a lot of effort to it (and achieve light feeling of accomplishment) and then someone post a video on youtube showing some exploit which would make the game so easy it wouldn't require any effort at all. I want game to be hard (but balanced, not just ridiculously overpowered enemies which one shot you and have gazillion HPs) and I don't want any exploits/cheats in it so that if anyone complete the game on highest difficulty they have to put in same effort (or somewhat more or less depends on how good they are) than me.

 

so how about it? I bet lots of players feel exactly the same as me. Why are you forcing your stupid cheats and exploits on us which were never intended to be in the game at the first place?

[Angel Mercury]

interesting, you do exactly the same, except you're forcing exploits to game while players wants it entirely without exploits. How would it make you feel if you completed reached the highest level in lets say D3 hardcore mode put a lot of effort to it (and achieve light feeling of accomplishment) and then someone post a video on youtube showing some exploit which would make the game so easy it wouldn't require any effort at all. I want game to be hard (but balanced, not just ridiculously overpowered enemies which one shot you and have gazillion HPs) and I don't want any exploits/cheats in it so that if anyone complete the game on highest difficulty they have to put in same effort (or somewhat more or less depends on how good they are) than me.

 

Why does it matter to you how other people play the game? If you finish the game with the best you can get without having to use an exploit and feel a sense of accomplishment for it then that's awesome. And why shouldn't you, that takes time and effort. But not everyone feels the same way or has the time and energy to do that. Why not instead be proud of yourself for achieving something a lot of other people probably won't, wining without taking the easy way. Someone else using cheats in single player does not take away from your own accomplishments.

 

It's really easy to choose not to use them when you're against them even though they might be there. If you take them out though, the people who might want them won't have a choice whether to use them or not. Not everyone who picks up DA is a strategic player or a purist. Some people want to play for story or romance and couldn't care less about side quests and gear. Others are completest and want to be able to say they found all the things in the game even if they have to farm, grind, or cheat. The disappointment with the removed exploits effects a portion of the game audience who doesn't mind, or enjoys using them as part of their gameplay experience.

 

Regardless, I do wish there was a decent way to accelerate additional play throughs. Exploits were a sort of unsanctioned way to do that. Take those away and it just means one more thing people who go for repeats will potentially have to slog through. It'd also be great if they'd not keep breaking things every time they try to fix them...

[Teddie Sage]

I'll just say this like I tell everyone else on this thread: ignore Maeve. He/she's the very definition of a [insert the common expression here]. Name calling isn't allowed but you can see yourself all he or she is doing is trying to bait us so we get angry at them. T-word people are just like that, they like making us furious. It's their hobby.

[Meave]

Why does it matter to you how other people play the game? If you finish the game with the best you can get without having to use an exploit and feel a sense of accomplishment for it then that's awesome. And why shouldn't you, that takes time and effort. But not everyone feels the same way or has the time and energy to do that. Why not instead be proud of yourself for achieving something a lot of other people probably won't, wining without taking the easy way. Someone else using cheats in single player does not take away from your own accomplishments.

 

 

but that's exactly it. By knowing there are exploits and anyone can finish it without putting effort into it it take away my good feeling for finishing on the highest difficulty. If there are no cheats no one can assume anyone used them...

[Epzaos]

Let's pray to the Maker that there will be purchasable Amulets of Power and tier 4 materials in the Black Emporium.

[turuzzusapatuttu]

but that's exactly it. By knowing there are exploits and anyone can finish it without putting effort into it it take away my good feeling for finishing on the highest difficulty. If there are no cheats no one can assume anyone used them...

 

[Epzaos]

but that's exactly it. By knowing there are exploits and anyone can finish it without putting effort into it it take away my good feeling for finishing on the highest difficulty. If there are no cheats no one can assume anyone used them...

I can see where you're coming from, but you have options, if you want to beat the game by the legit way, then don't use the exploit.

Besides, the game gets ridiculously easier once you get to Skyhold, hardest difficulty or not.

[Meave]

well the game is ridiculously easy even without exploits, no argument there

 

it's just matter of principle, I don't like cheats/exploits and I explained why

[Monster20862]

I haven't played the game since they removed my amulets of power. And I'm not going to ever play it or any other bioware game until they're given back to their rightful owner, which is me.

[Monster20862]

well the game is ridiculously easy even without exploits, no argument there

it's just matter of principle, I don't like cheats/exploits and I explained why

Your principles are fine, but keep them to yourself. Would you like it if someone interfered in how you do things simply because of their principles?

[Monster20862]

I can see where you're coming from, but you have options, if you want to beat the game by the legit way, then don't use the exploit.
Besides, the game gets ridiculously easier once you get to Skyhold, hardest difficulty or not.

What other people do/ don't do shouldn't interfere in how you feel about something. Only you can control how you feel.

[Meave]

Your principles are fine, but keep them to yourself. Would you like it if someone interfered in how you do things simply because of their principles?

 

why should I? This is an open game forum and I am entitled to share my opinion the same as you. I could say the same to you. You want to cheat or use exploits? Well keep it to yourself...

[Monster20862]

Except that exploit was taken away, which is why this discussion was opened so it directly affects me and others. And no one is directing their complaints to you. Also since it seems you don't use exploits, this doesn't directly affect you. So you're pretty much interfering in something that doesn't concern you at all. I'm assuming that's in your nature and shows a lack of maturity. I expect nothing I say will appease someone like you, so I won't even bother commenting further.

[Jeffry]

@Monster20862

 

Yup, stop arguing with Meave, it is completely pointless. He is trying to drag you to his level so he can beat you there with his nonsensical arguments full of fallacies and utter bollocks and hopefully for him to get you banned for taking the bait and calling him names for what he is. Just look above how he is comparing exploits in a strictly SP game the SP portion of DAI is to a bloody Diablo 3 "Forcing exploits to game" argument is just hilariously bad. He either very well knows this is pure BS or he is just trolling. Or there is also the possibility he actually means all the stupid things he writes, but I can't picture a person that oblivious to reason.

[Meave]

it affects me cos exploit was finally fixed and I am happy for it. You start a discussion where you want to prove that players want's this exploit back, well I am one of many who thinks it's for the better. As we discuss the same topic you can't really expect only people who agree with you will contribute to this discussion

[Meave]

@Monster20862

 

Yup, stop arguing with Meave, it is completely pointless. He is trying to drag you to his level so he can beat you there with his nonsensical arguments full of fallacies and utter bollocks and hopefully for him to get you banned for taking the bait and calling him names for what he is. Just look above how he is comparing exploits in a strictly SP game the SP portion of DAI is to a bloody Diablo 3 "Forcing exploits to game" argument is just hilariously bad. He either very well knows this is pure BS or he is just trolling. Or there is also the possibility he actually means all the stupid things he writes, but I can't picture a person that oblivious to reason.

 

is that what you do? are you aware of that "name calling" is not considered to be polite even in heat of argumentation? Maybe you should hone your social skills some more if you don't know the basics...