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[Heimdall]

I don't think so, I think it's about the Elven gods and the old gods (Forgotten Ones), the elves and humans are merely pawns in a conflict that is now only beginning to be revealed.

[Antergaton]

If DA was about the elves, it's doing a bad job at telling it. Involvement in DA2 was but a stone in a lake compared to the mage stuff. I like the world of Dragon Age, all of it from dwarves to elves to humans to dragons to the fade. It's all good. I do not want them focusing of the side plot when to me, it's not important at all. Each story should be it's own contained problem and their back story they are doing should be as minor as possible. The less Solas the better.

[Navasha]

Hardly..   DA:O was clearly about Grey Wardens/Darkspawn.    DA2 was clearly about Mages/Templars.   DA:I, if anything is mostly just wrapping up a lot of threads and storylines introduced in the first two.  

 

I would say that the next game will probably focus on some other major issue as well.  

 

Elves and their mysterious past has sort of been a thread intertwining throughout the series, but it has hardly EVER been the focus.    That's like saying Star Wars only focuses on the adventures of two droids.  

[Jestina]

Not really a focus, because the Elves are gone...at least the true Elves. Now there are just pointed eared humans of the ghetto and gypsy variety.

[legbamel]

I'm curious to see where they take the threads of elven and dwarviah history that they've draped over Threads in Inquisition. It seems like a lot of what we thought we knew from these dislocated races has been whitewashing and wishful thinking. If the dwarves (or the titans of some other dwarven precursor) and the elves are the two oldest races in Thedas their histories might be more intertwined than anyone suspected.

[Majestic Jazz]

Hardly.. DA:O was clearly about Grey Wardens/Darkspawn. DA2 was clearly about Mages/Templars. DA:I, if anything is mostly just wrapping up a lot of threads and storylines introduced in the first two.

I would say that the next game will probably focus on some other major issue as well.

Elves and their mysterious past has sort of been a thread intertwining throughout the series, but it has hardly EVER been the focus. That's like saying Star Wars only focuses on the adventures of two droids.

I disagree

Like I said, I will go back and play DAO and DA2 and pay more attention to codex entries regarding elves and magic.

I know that a lot of the elven focused stuff happened late game, but what was revealed changes everything about divine entities in Thedas. The fact that elven Gods isnt just myth but is fact changes a lot about what I thought about the Maker and the Chantry. And considering that ancient elves predates humans, it could change a lot about what is true about the true "creator" of the world and so on.

Perhaps replaying DAO especially would shed more light. While DA may go on to explore other stories such as the Tevinter/Qunari war, you cannot deny how greater elven/elven magic lore plays onto Thedas in the current and in the past.

[EmissaryofLies]

LoL

[Vox Draco]

Well, personally speaking ... I wasn't that thrilled with the whole Solas-revelation in the end, and all that ancient elven mumbo-jumbo. I hope they just wrap it up in some DLCs and in DA4 we get to see less elven stuff and more interesting things...

[X Equestris]

More likely, I think it's about the Taint, whatever it is, and it's origins, though that may very well tie in with the elves.

[cronshaw]

More likely, I think it's about the Taint, whatever it is, and it's origins, though that may very well tie in with the elves.

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[EmissaryofLies]

Shirley Temple? 

[Majestic Jazz]

Well, personally speaking ... I wasn't that thrilled with the whole Solas-revelation in the end, and all that ancient elven mumbo-jumbo. I hope they just wrap it up in some DLCs and in DA4 we get to see less elven stuff and more interesting things...

 

Sounds like to me that you seem to be annoyed that Dragon Age is or potientially turning into or already about a greater story of the Elves, their lore, and their greater historic influence on the land. Elven lore in DA has always been far more interesting than the Human/Chantry/Andraste lore. Hell, even Dwarven lore is more interesting then the generic human lore.

 

It would be a great twist to have this franchise actually be about the elves and less about humans. 

[Sah291]

Well DAO and DA2 both felt very human centric to me (and very mage/magic centric). I was invested in the mage/templar conflict mostly. But I get the sense people are getting tired of that storyline and they are going to shift gears. Before DAI, I probably only remembered the names of a couple elven gods (and didn't really care), and now I know them all....so DAI got me invested in the lore. It isn't perfect. There are oversights and you can tell the game was written with a human in mind first, but female elven mage will be my canon play through, and is my favorite.

[Wompoo]

Elf this, elf that, I'll elf your mom. 

I think Rowan Atkinson would approve... although mister Bean fails to see the humour.

[MrFob]

Having just completed DA:I myself, also with a human noble (also Andrastian, albeit less devout maybe), I think the games combine a lot of aspects. I think it's great that there is no lore that really get's precedence (something, that is not that easy to pull off as a writer).

The chantry and maker theme is still very much present in the game. You can choose the next divine after all and the fact that the PC is called "the Herald of Andraste should also be a clue.

The Darkspawn also still play an important role, after all, the main villain is one.

Human politics are another big theme (especially if you read the war table mission reports).

The only ones who are left out a bit are the dwarfs (a fact, I am not that unhappy about, given how lengthy the whole Orzamar plot was in DA:O, too many brownish hallways there).

 

The elves and their culture and myths obviously do play a very important part towards the end of the game. I have to say, personally, I loved the final scene with Solas. So much room for really cool plot developments in the future. Kotaku has a really nice article on that final scene, summarizing a couple of theories on the implications. It's well worth the read (note to the ME team, THAT is how you do "speculations for everyone" ).

 

As it is, I don't think you can really distinguish between elven lore, human culture, Andrastian faith or the old Tewinter gods that much. They are all connected, sometimes maybe even referring to the same personalities in different ways and names. I think it will be interesting to see how this web of different entities, deities and myths untangles in future stories.

[Taear]

I have a feeling we're going to discover that the humans and elves are one and the same. There must be a reason why Alistair being a half-elf was included and I'd say it's so we learn that a half-elf is entirely 100% human.

 

Maybe that's why Abelas says a civil war destroyed Arlathan - everyone was an elf at that point so it must have been a civil war.

[Shahadem]

I'm heavily biased towards elves since DA:O... the Chantry the Templars the Humans and the Qun, in the words of Sera can eat it, an arrow in their face. As for the series being about Thedas, to be honest I feel zero empathy for Thedas. The Elves yes and even the Dwarves to some extent, humans I couldn't careless about (yes, guilty of playing a Noble in DA:O, purely to get a decent ending).  Mostly I would prefer to have an epic hero and epic tale about my character, not Thedas (Inquisition fails like DA2 did to feel epic... they were either epically repetitive or in a way epically MMOish). I so miss being able to converse with my party any where at any time (dislike the Mass Effect model). All in all I want stories about my characters (Elf Elf Elf Elf Dwarf ) not humans in Thedas, boring.

 

It's funny that you mention Sera, because she actively hates everything elfish.

[Shahadem]

I have a feeling we're going to discover that the humans and elves are one and the same. There must be a reason why Alistair being a half-elf was included and I'd say it's so we learn that a half-elf is entirely 100% human.

 

Maybe that's why Abelas says a civil war destroyed Arlathan - everyone was an elf at that point so it must have been a civil war.

 

Alistair was turned into a half elf so they could shoe in little Mrs. Mary Sue, aka Fiona.

[Sailfindragon]

Well, personally speaking ... I wasn't that thrilled with the whole Solas-revelation in the end, and all that ancient elven mumbo-jumbo. I hope they just wrap it up in some DLCs and in DA4 we get to see less elven stuff and more interesting things...

 

This.^ And I really don't like Solas.

[Judas Bock]

Well, personally speaking ... I wasn't that thrilled with the whole Solas-revelation in the end, and all that ancient elven mumbo-jumbo. I hope they just wrap it up in some DLCs and in DA4 we get to see less elven stuff and more interesting things...

 

To me, the elven lore and anything to do with Solas is the most interesting thing in the games up to this point. I mean, sure, Grey Wardens, the blight and all that is also awesome, but all the elven stuff currently sits on top. So I certainly hope that this continues to be a focus for some time. (Inquisitor/Solas trilogy plz?)

[Heimdall]

As interesting as I find the Elven God angle, I hope we can delve into other lore in new games. Maybe learn more about the origin of the Kossith, or the dwarves of Kal Sharok. Or, maybe something involving an uncorrupted Old God (Imagine if say Razikale is in contact with a small cabal of followers on the surface)

[Aravasia]

If there is anything I learned from Inquisition, it is that almost all of the current plot threads we have in the DA universe are connected in some way. The Blight, Black City, Arlathan, Old gods, Elven Gods, Maker, Andraste, lyrium, loss of magic in dwarves, creation and origin of Qunari. If you read between the lines, you can begin to see how all these pieces begin to fit together, but there's still so much missing, that makes it unsolvable. The Dragon Age games began with the Blight, I would not be surprised that the series is beginning to make a full circle. I do believe that the elves have a much bigger role in the Blight than we had anticipated, but the Black City is still the center to the Andrastian religion. And somehow this involves why dwarves lack magic and their connection to lyrium. Also! Lyrium's connection with the Blight and how it's alive?

Ah, so many theories roaming through my head right now. Do we have a major theory thread? If not, we should make one.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Well, personally speaking ... I wasn't that thrilled with the whole Solas-revelation in the end, and all that ancient elven mumbo-jumbo. I hope they just wrap it up in some DLCs and in DA4 we get to see less elven stuff and more interesting things...

I honestly don't get when people say this. They can't just 'wrap it up' if it's so connected and intertwined with other story elements. What they can do is put less emphasis on the elven stuff, but if what happens in Inquisition is anything to go by, I suspect we will continue to see/hear about elven-specific plot elements in future installments. (At the very least this is the impression I was left with upon completing the game.)

[Qunquistador]

The ancient magical elven bits didn't interest me. I've heard enough about their ancient origins and floating sky cities we'll never get to see. I'd hate to see more of this.

 

Elves in DA:I feel like a people about to go extinct, so we have to have flashbacks to their greatest hits every 5 minutes like when a 90s sitcom was about go off the air.

 

Remember the time when elves did the thing? *cue laugh track*

Remember when the thing happened to elves? *cue awww track*

Remember when the thing that happened to the elves turned out to be them doing the thing instead? *cue uh oh track* :0