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[Rozberry]

I love the dwarves in DA.  They are by far my favorite take on dwarves and I played as a female dwarf in Origins and in Inquisition.  Here's my problem: Dwaves don't dream, but nobody seems to remember this.

 

When my dwarden woke up in camp that first night after dreaming about the archdemon, she should've been freaking out.  She's never dreamt before, she should be confused about this experience.  She should wake up thinking the archdemon is right in front of her until Alistair calms her down.  These should have been conversation options.

 

When my dwarden entered the fade during broken circle and rescued the party, they (or at least the mages) should have been like "WTF are you doing here?  You're a dwarf!  Dwarves don't enter the fade!".  The warden can choose conversation lines saying that they believe Duncan is real and this isn't the fade, so the warden's reaction doesn't bother me.  Same kinda thing during the Blackmarsh Unbound in Awakening.  At least in Awakening, Oghren freaks out about being in the fade.  This should happen more often.

 

In DA2, Varric should have had some reaction to the fade during the Feyndriel questline.  Maybe just surprise at the surroundings since he knew he was going to be sent there ahead of time.

 

I think there should be one or two lines in Inquisition that react to a dwarf being the first one to physically enter the fade in 1000 years.  Tack it on to when you first meet Solas:  "I find it hard to imagine any mage, let alone a dwarf with this power".

 

I don't expect BioWare to go back and patch in these things, but it would be nice to have thise kinds of reactions in future DLC/games.  It just irritates me that dwarves are unique in all of thedas in that they don't dream and never see the fade, but when it happens in the game everyone (but Oghren) takes it in stride.

 

Unrelated side note:  Please bring back crossbows!  Bianca's awesome and all, but Varric shouldn't have the only crossbow in existence.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

Thumbs up here. As for more dwarven experience - we don't have dwarven LI. STILL. After three goddamn games...

Humans have those. A plenty.

Elves have those. A fair share.

There's even a Qunari.

Dwarves - none. Ever. WHY?

[Nefla]

I totally agree, it's strange that this has been almost universally ignored.

[rpgfan321]

Dwarves are growing on me in the DA universe. I hope they gain more attention as in more dwarven characters and more lore reveal about dwarven culture.

[keesio74]

DA has a refreshing take on Dwarves and Elves vs other fantasy medium. Almost everywhere else, elves are all high class, powerful, graceful, advanced, intelligent and often arrogant. They are usually perceived as superior than Dwarves. In the DA world, elves have been subjugated and are either lower class (city elves) or considered a bit primitive (Dalish). The Dwarves, while declining in power, are certainly considered the superior here.

[AutumnWitch]

Thumbs up here. As for more dwarven experience - we don't have dwarven LI. STILL. After three goddamn games...

Humans have those. A plenty.

Elves have those. A fair share.

There's even a Qunari.

Dwarves - none. Ever. WHY?

 David G has said he does not want us to have a Dwarven LI. He thinks having a dawrven LI is too analogous with paedophilia

[spacefiddle]

"You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day."

 

 

And here Bioware's telling us we're not positive enough.  Hmpf.

 

+1 for "Dwarden," by the way.  And come to that....... there's that convo with Solas in Skyhold... spoiler:

 

Spoiler

There is a conversation with Solas after reaching Skyhold that turns out to be a dream.  Do Dwarven Inquisitors never get that convo?  Or is it just, like instances cited above, accepted without comment?  Solas expresses surprise that you found his dream - to everyone.  (Did you miss that, btw?  "You continue to surprise me," before the reveal.  Like 6th sense, the hint is there  ).  

[SongstressKitsune]

 David G has said he does not want us to have a Dwarven LI. He thinks having a dawrven LI is too analogous with paedophilia

No, that's not what he said; he was speaking of an in-game test they did of the Origins love scenes that was a "worst case" scenario, with a dwarf girl made to look purposely young. It was predictably gross, he was a little scarred.

 

He has never said "no dwarf LIs ever," he made a comment about a specific scenario in Origins and people have decided that's what he said.

[DAO MAdhatter]

David G has said he does not want us to have a Dwarven LI. He thinks having a dawrven LI is too analogous with paedophilia

That's bullshit! They look like short people, not children. After all, look at Ogren & Varric. So they look like pre-pubescent boys? Hell no! They both look like dudes in their mid thirties! Same with Harding! She doesn't look like a child. She looks like a girl in her mid twenties. David Gs argument is deeply flawed & someone needs to punch him in his bigoted face!

[AutumnWitch]

No, that's not what he said; he was speaking of an in-game test they did of the Origins love scenes that was a "worst case" scenario, with a dwarf girl made to look purposely young. It was predictably gross, he was a little scarred.

 

He has never said "no dwarf LIs ever," he made a comment about a specific scenario in Origins and people have decided that's what he said.

 

 

 

I stand corrected dwarf-dwarf might be one day.

[SongstressKitsune]

Alright; I stand corrected! My apologies.

[spacefiddle]

 David G has said he does not want us to have a Dwarven LI. He thinks having a dawrven LI is too analogous with paedophilia

I've been thinking about this, and: source please?  Because the stocky, adult-voiced dwarves are in no way creepier to look at as a LI than the petite, spindly, supermodel-thin elf chicks.

 

Edit: just noticed the subsequent posts.  If he thinks Dwarven females look like "14 year old girls," but he doesn't think there's anything creepy about the unhealthily-thin, shorter-than-human Elven females in the game, that's a sad comment on what imagery is considered "acceptably" sexy.  Also ewwww.

[AutumnWitch]

Alright; I stand corrected! My apologies.

 

Actually I am wrong. He later said that was taken out of context. But he has alluded to it but I personally think they are just too scared of getting the wrong type of attention. I apologise to you and David. I think he is more open to it now.

[Rozberry]

"You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day."

 

 

And here Bioware's telling us we're not positive enough.  Hmpf.

 

+1 for "Dwarden," by the way.  And come to that....... there's that convo with Solas in Skyhold... spoiler:

 

Spoiler

There is a conversation with Solas after reaching Skyhold that turns out to be a dream.  Do Dwarven Inquisitors never get that convo?  Or is it just, like instances cited above, accepted without comment?  Solas expresses surprise that you found his dream - to everyone.  (Did you miss that, btw?  "You continue to surprise me," before the reveal.  Like 6th sense, the hint is there  ).  

I thought of that after posting, but was too lazy to edit )

The answer is yes we get that convo, and it's the exact same thing as when I did it on my elf (except my dwarf didn't kiss Solas...).

[The_Last_Griffon]

Hopefully we'll see a Dwarf romance option soon. I hope it's for males (or both males and females). Too bad Scout Harding wasn't a romance option, I was fooled by her:(

 

But yes they completely contradict their own lore by allowing Dwarves into the Fade (being physically forced into the fade makes sense for a Dwarf, but falling asleep or entering a dream does NOT correspond with the lore of the game). Also, Dwarves have gotten far less relevant to the plotline of Dragon Age. At least there were plenty of Dwarves in previous games, with Orzammar and The Merchants Guild.

 

Now...seems like we have a few Dwarven outcasts and everyone else has been buried underground somewhere. What happened?:/

[Eyes_Only]

And I came in here expecting a thread about dwarves needing better beards. But I find myself agreeing with everything in there. I was disappointed Oghren could not be romanced. Or Varric in DA2. Why not? As Isabela says... "Oh... chest hair."

 

Is it a height issue? like they somehow can't make things line up?

 

But I do believe Varric has some dialog when going into the fade in DA2. He is also (to my knowledge) the only companion that can not be tempted and tricked away from you while your in there.

[SongstressKitsune]

Actually I am wrong. He later said that was taken out of context. But he has alluded to it but I personally think they are just too scared of getting the wrong type of attention. I apologise to you and David. I think he is more open to it now.

 

Ah! I thought he had taken it back but only knew the story in relation to the Alistair romance test, so I thought that was a separate incident where he'd affirmed not being interested in dwarven romances; if that's not the case, more the better, because I would really like a dwarf LI!

 

(Lace Harding for LI in DA5 or dlc ; A ; )

[Winged Silver]

Just speculation, but Scout Harding may have been a test thing for the audience, to see what their reaction might've been. If they keep the Inquisitor for DA4, Scout Harding may be something like the next Tali/Garrus for some people

[Kantr]

Hopefully we'll see a Dwarf romance option soon. I hope it's for males (or both males and females). Too bad Scout Harding wasn't a romance option, I was fooled by her:(

 

But yes they completely contradict their own lore by allowing Dwarves into the Fade (being physically forced into the fade makes sense for a Dwarf, but falling asleep or entering a dream does NOT correspond with the lore of the game). Also, Dwarves have gotten far less relevant to the plotline of Dragon Age. At least there were plenty of Dwarves in previous games, with Orzammar and The Merchants Guild.

 

Now...seems like we have a few Dwarven outcasts and everyone else has been buried underground somewhere. What happened?:/

Dwarves do sleep. The anchor connects you to the fade so thats what makes a dwarf "dream". As dreaming in Dragon Age involves astral projection

[WindfishDude]

I don't get it. Dwarf romance scenes are already in both DA:O and DA:I if you play as a dwarf character.

[Saphiron123]

I have seen a male dwarf get it on with Zevran... It was kind of creepy. Less creepy then Morrigan and Loghain though, Yeesh.

[Rozberry]

And I came in here expecting a thread about dwarves needing better beards. But I find myself agreeing with everything in there. I was disappointed Oghren could not be romanced. Or Varric in DA2. Why not? As Isabela says... "Oh... chest hair."

 

Is it a height issue? like they somehow can't make things line up?

 

But I do believe Varric has some dialog when going into the fade in DA2. He is also (to my knowledge) the only companion that can not be tempted and tricked away from you while your in there.

I just replayed DA2 a couple weeks ago and had Varric in my party throughout the entire game.  I don't recall him saying anything special about the fade when we were there.  I saw a youtube video where the pride demon turns him by saying he can get more recognition than Bartrand.  Didn't happen for me because I had Merrill with me as well and she got prided instead.

[Shechinah]

In my opinion, it seems he took issue with the idea of writing a dwarven romance himself which does not mean there would not be a dwarven romance at all in the future, merely that he wouldn't be the one writing it.