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[ThreeF]

No, it's a fact. Just because there is an order she's trying to establish doesn't make it more unique than Morrigan's goals

 

Learning wild magic at nearly any cost, while shaming people for their ignorance. While Solas is kinder and more soft, they share an understanding of, "magic is only as dangerous as the one wielding it". You throw her in the rebel without a cause group because she's selfish and greedy. 

 

Isabella was trying to further her own gold, but she doesn't support cruelty against the mages. Usually if a choice is made that benefits everyone involved shes for it. 

 

Her uniqueness is in her relationship with men, her slight deviation is the way she approaches her rebellion. Btw, what the mages have to do with all of this?

[Lunatic Lace]

Thank you for pointing this out. At least you keep facts straight - almost. It is a single event, it can't count as torture. So yes, basically it is an introduced psychological 'trauma'(possibly).

 

Shame on me. Let's stay on the topic.

 

Actually, torture is still torture no matter how many times it's applied. Physically AND psychologically. 

[In Exile]

Her way or the highway. Right. But changing ones perspective doesn´t mean one has to change personality. I´ve seen very few people who are not affected by their relationships. The ones with immovable attitudes usually end up alone, or have to find someone really alike.

If you're anti-Chantry and atheistic she does acknowledge it. Of course you have to work at increasing her approval - but that's because you're essentially dismissing the most fundamental and core beliefs that she has and the ideals she has dedicated decades of her life to achieve.

She respects you. She can be convinced into leaving the Seeker order rather than reviving it. That's giving up a LOT of ground for her. Especially since she's an incredibly uncompromising person. She's the anti-Josephine in that regard.

[HuldraDancer]

Is not an exaggeration, is better you don't ask tbh, is disturbing

 

I read the link posted and am kind of regretting it but I was morbidly curious. Oddly enough with no sarcasm intended that just sounded like something along the line of thought of a serial killer character that a friend is writing. It's creepily similar.

[TheOgre]

I admit that Cassandra became unique in that she turns from a bull to a soft hearted school girl (cute) but not exactly attractive (to me). If that's the point you were going for (not trying to assume just asking) Then I'd agree she's most unique in that regard, hard surface, very mushy insides. Honestly, I would have liked an Aveline romance in DA2 but nope, didn't get that :*(.

 

My point was that Morrigan had a cause, as does Solas or the other ones that advocate knowledge before blind faith.

[ThreeF]

Her way or the highway. Right. But changing ones perspective doesn´t mean one has to change personality. I´ve seen very few people who are not affected by their relationships. The ones with immovable attitudes usually end up alone, or have to find someone really alike.

 

In this sense perhaps you are not the right guy for her, why should you be?

[Lord Surinen]

Oh, I must have completely misunderstood how cutting off her lover's finger doesn't count as "torture" or "abuse." How silly of me.

I have never said it is not 'abuse', but it is not a torture most definately.

 

 

If we never get the ability to marry an LI, I blame posts like Lord Surinen's. 

And how is that so? You are open minded, progressive and modern folk, and like many of your ilk said "BioWare will keep supporting XYZ". Why would they limit your options.

 

 

What the ...

You are either the best stealth troll or an outright terrifying human. I'm really hoping for troll.

I'm not a troll.

 

 

Oh, I'm demonizing you. I had no idea. I can't imagine all the people to whom I have given the wrong impression of you by referring to things that you said you wanted the option to do in the game. I should have clarified from the beginning that you have successfully established that forcing someone to marry you to breed is perfectly acceptable and that breaking their will through torture is not torture.

Forcing as in 'talked into', re-read post again, please. Yes it is not a torture.

 

 

Actually, torture is still torture no matter how many times it's applied. Physically AND psychologically. 

No, it is not a torture. For it to be torture it must happen more than once under certain conditions and time ramifications. I don't really mind tortures, like in SWTOR zapping people as Inquisitor, but let's keep facts straight.

[Imryll]

 

If the person can be persuaded to see a new worldview with correct arguments then it can add a lot the story too.

Of course, this can apply to the player character, as well as to NPCs ...  ;-)

[Lunatic Lace]

I have never said it is not 'abuse', but it is not a torture most definately.

 

 

And how is that so? You are open minded, progressive and modern folk, and like many of your ilk said "BioWare will keep supporting XYZ". Why would they limit your options.

 

 

I'm not a troll.

 

 

Forcing as in 'talked into', re-read post again, please. Yes it is not a torture.

 

 

No, it is not a torture. For it to be torture it must happen more than once under certain conditions and time ramifications. I don't really mind tortures, like in SWTOR zapping people as Inquisitor, but let's keep facts straight.

 

You might want to actually look up the definition. 

 

tor·ture

ˈtôrCHər/

noun

 

1. 1.

   the action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or to force them to do or say something, or for the pleasure of the person inflicting the pain.

   synonyms: infliction of pain, abuse, ill-treatment,maltreatment, persecution; 

   sadism

   "acts of torture"

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verb

 

1. 1.

   inflict severe pain on.

   "most of the victims had been brutally tortured"

   synonyms: inflict pain on, ill-treat, abuse, mistreat,maltreat, persecute

   "they have tortured suspects in order to extract confessions"

[Uccio]

In this sense perhaps you are not the right guy for her, why should you be?

 

Because I don´t have any other choice? (No, I don´t consider disney hand holder a option. She is just a bad Kelly Chambers copy)

[Uccio]

If you're anti-Chantry and atheistic she does acknowledge it. Of course you have to work at increasing her approval - but that's because you're essentially dismissing the most fundamental and core beliefs that she has and the ideals she has dedicated decades of her life to achieve.

She respects you. She can be convinced into leaving the Seeker order rather than reviving it. That's giving up a LOT of ground for her. Especially since she's an incredibly uncompromising person. She's the anti-Josephine in that regard.

 

Didn´t see that happening even I did try each choice.

[TheOgre]

If you're anti-Chantry and atheistic she does acknowledge it. Of course you have to work at increasing her approval - but that's because you're essentially dismissing the most fundamental and core beliefs that she has and the ideals she has dedicated decades of her life to achieve.

She respects you. She can be convinced into leaving the Seeker order rather than reviving it. That's giving up a LOT of ground for her. Especially since she's an incredibly uncompromising person. She's the anti-Josephine in that regard.

 

Well, I mean't in the romancing, or flowers/poem/soft hearted stuff. I think the seekers are a good thing honestly, if they have to have a chantry I'd rather a seeker investigate templar matters. Between the suggested abuses mages endure in tower (unconsenting/beatings) it's nice to have some oversight. 

 

If I could be a forceful inquisitor and have Cassandra not clash with that personality, I don't think I would have qq'd so hard on these forums.

[Lord Surinen]

 

You might want to actually look up the definition. 

 

tor·ture

ˈtôrCHər/

n

Indeed, please re read defintion yourself again.  Would you consider a single punch as 'torture'? It gives pain just after hit and later on. Is it a torture or not?

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

No, it is not a torture. For it to be torture it must happen more than once under certain conditions and time ramifications. I don't really mind tortures, like in SWTOR zapping people as Inquisitor, but let's keep facts straight.

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[ThreeF]

I admit that Cassandra became unique in that she turns from a bull to a soft hearted school girl (cute) but not exactly attractive (to me). If that's the point you were going for (not trying to assume just asking) Then I'd agree she's most unique in that regard, hard surface, very mushy insides. Honestly, I would have liked an Aveline romance in DA2 but nope, didn't get that :*(.

 

My point was that Morrigan had a cause, as does Solas or the other ones that advocate knowledge before blind faith.

My point is that she wants a rather healthy relationship with a guy who will embrace her intellectual side and that she has a hard exterior with mushy inside. And yes from the start I was saying that it is something you obviously don't find attractive.

 

Actually I do think that Cassandra's personality was born out of the positive reaction people had to Aveline, but there was no way BW would make exactly same character twice.

[Angry_Elcor]

I have never said it is not 'abuse', but it is not a torture most definately.

 

I cannot possibly see how I failed to interpret cutting someone's finger off as simple "abuse," as opposed to "torture." How silly of me, again.

 

Forcing as in 'talked into', re-read post again, please. Yes it is not a torture.

 

I think you vastly overestimate how interested I am in rereading about how you want to break a woman's will to make her a proper wife.

 

No, it is not a torture. For it to be torture it must happen more than once under certain conditions and time ramifications.

 

By that definition, I think what you're doing to my brain in these forums is beginning to qualify as torture.

 

 I don't really mind tortures, like in SWTOR zapping people as Inquisitor, but let's keep facts straight.

 

It's almost (but ever-so-seriously not) funny how you say things like this, and yet somehow, when I mention that you have said things like this, I am "demonizing" you.

[In Exile]

Well, I mean't in the romancing, or flowers/poem/soft hearted stuff. I think the seekers are a good thing honestly, if they have to have a chantry I'd rather a seeker investigate templar matters. Between the suggested abuses mages endure in tower (unconsenting/beatings) it's nice to have some oversight.

If I could be a forceful inquisitor and have Cassandra not clash with that personality, I don't think I would have qq'd so hard on these forums.

Speaking as someone who is IRL very forceful personality wise I really feel for Cassandra. Often people take my manner to be mean I'm clashing with them when I'm really not doing any thing of the sort. I just can't help but being forceful.

[ThreeF]

Because I don´t have any other choice? (No, I don´t consider disney hand holder a option. She is just a bad Kelly Chambers copy)

 

I didn't had any other choice in DA2 and DAO, you know what my character did? Remained single.

[Lunatic Lace]

Indeed, please re read defintion yourself.  Would you consider a single punch as 'torture'?

 

It entirely depends on the context of the punch. If you're punching someone who is already down, giving up, and begging you to stop, then YES.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

And how is that so? You are open minded, progressive and modern folk, and like many of your ilk said "BioWare will keep supporting XYZ". Why would they limit your options.

I never said they will keep supporting what I am, just that they'll keep supporting XYZ. Neither my sexuality or my lifestyle when it comes to romance is supported by Bioware and is treated more as a joke by them.

[Terca]

 

A male gay only bear

 

[TheOgre]

Indeed, please re read defintion yourself again.  Would you consider a single punch as 'torture'? It gives pain just after hit and later on. Is it a torture or not?

 

Ahh, no offense to you

 

But this thread, some of the best gifs I've ever found in any thread ever created. Ever.

 

http://forum.bioware...gestion/page-10

 

 

This is how I imagine a lot of the posters that are replying to your posts, looking at your posts..

[Uccio]

I didn't had any other choice in DA2 and DAO, you know what my character did? Remained single.

 

That is one option sure, I just happen to like the depth romances usually bring into Bio games.

[Bocochoco]

They should add more females for male only romance options to balance everything out. A female elven Inquisitor has a total of six romance options, a female human has five, while all other gender/race combinations have four. I'm not against the romance options for the game, I just wish they would even it out some Males had a few more to match the female ones. Vivienne would have been an interesting romance option for a start, sadly she will turn you down always. Seems a little unfair that the race specific ones are for female only, Cullen I can understand cause it fits his character. I mean no disrespect to anyone if I have offended you, it was not my intent to do so.

If my inquisitor took the evil path I don't see why I should be limited at all. There should be a SPECIAL romance option for evil quiz if you get my drift.
Sera don't like my advances? Oh well then...time for the special romance option

Edit: if they added balanced homosexual options in order to make it more closely resembling "real" life then they should add the special romance option since there's a lot more instances of "special romance" than there is gay sex

[Lord Surinen]

I cannot possibly see how I failed to interpret cutting someone's finger off as simple "abuse," as opposed to "torture." How silly of me, again.

 

 

I think you vastly overestimate how interested I am in rereading about how you want to break a woman's will to make her a proper wife.

 

 

By that definition, I think what you're doing to my brain in these forums is beginning to qualify as torture.

 

 

It's almost (but ever-so-seriously not) funny how you say things like this, and yet somehow, when I mention that you have said things like this, I am "demonizing" you.

If you have no interest in reading what I have written then, please refrain from unnecessary commentary.

 

Because these two things are different. I don't mind tortures but I dislike calling tortures something that is not them.

 

 

It entirely depends on the context of the punch. If you're punching someone who is already down, giving up, and begging you to stop, then YES.

I have said about single punch. Just like the event mentioned before: showing fingers. There is no torture there, please refrain from attempts at manipulations after fact. Also one punch after someone gives up would not be considered a torture. Please, do not dillute the meaning of it.

 

 

I never said they will keep supporting what I am, just that they'll keep supporting XYZ. Neither my sexuality or my lifestyle when it comes to romance is supported by Bioware and is treated more as a joke by them.

I never said that you have said it.  I'm sorry to hear it, maybe if my side of argument lose then they will open for even more progressive content and you will find something for yourself.