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[TheOgre]

I only just got to that in the thread, but I was going to ignore it anyway. There have been similar topics on the BSN before and they usually end with the thread getting locked. However, I hadn't seen the mail order bride suggestion before, which is why I commented on it.

I am 99.99999% positive that BW will never add the option to rape someone in their games. It's absurd. It's disgusting. It's completely offensive. And it appears to go against their philosophy of game development, particularly where the DA franchise is concerned. To me it is a pointless discussion.

Well, yeah, it is disgusting but it's no more special than murder..

Maybe fox news will do a news special on BioWare's latest game, calling it disgusting and shameful for its openly accepting of the lgbt community, like they bashed the prior games for even depicting sex in bioware games..

I can just imagine the segment they would do, if it ever bece truly immersion in that regard..

"shocking things in the gaming world today folks as we cover a triple A titles latest franchise, how video games are truly for morally deprived satanists!'

[AlanC9]

I'm just saying that it's weird to me, that there aren't any instances of rape in this game.

Is there any specific place where you figure such an instance would have fit?

[papercut_ninja]

Well, I'm not saying give us the option to rape people. That's the stupidest ****** thing I've ever heard, and any developer would 've been destroyed if they gave us that choice.

I'm just saying that it's weird to me, that there aren't any instances of rape in this game.

 

You did support and defend a statement that suggested just that...the option for the inquisitor to engage in "special" romance...so naturally everyone interpreted it as if you supported this "feature".

[TheOgre]

Is there any specific place where you figure such an instance would have fit?

Elven alienages, Mage circles, tevinter, qunari territories.. Even the Rebel soldiers in the dales that captured local inhabitants to be shipped off to emprise du lion, oh, and there too..

They implied that imshael blackmailed a templar with life for something on that level..

[nightscrawl]

I'm just saying that it's weird to me, that there aren't any instances of rape in this game.

I noticed that as well. Since both DAO and DA2 have actual rape and suggestions of rape, I found it refreshing.

[In Exile]

Well, I'm not saying give us the option to rape people. That's the stupidest ****** thing I've ever heard, and any developer would 've been destroyed if they gave us that choice.

I'm just saying that it's weird to me, that there aren't any instances of rape in this game.

Why is it weird to you no one is getting raped? I just don't understand the fascination with the topic.

And there are instances - albeit implied - of rape.

[Lord Surinen]

You did support and defend a statement that suggested just that...the option for the inquisitor to engage in "special" romance...so naturally everyone interpreted it as if you supported this "feature".

No, I did not interpret it this way. everyone

[ThreeF]

I'm just saying that it's weird to me, that there aren't any instances of rape in this game.

There are.

[Winged Silver]

I personally wouldn't consider that a bonus towards immersion. If anything, I'd think of it as a creep detector. If I knew someone who took that option, were it included, I probably wouldn't want to be their friend anymore, given the even considering the 'choice' indicates a serious lack of empathy.

[Jeffry]

Boy, this thread escalated quickly.

[Angry_Elcor]

If you have no interest in reading what I have written then, please refrain from unnecessary commentary.

 

Thankfully, nobody is required to read what you have written in order to comment in threads.

 

Because these two things are different.

 

That doesn't make sense as a reply to my post that you quoted. But please, don't explain.

 

I don't mind tortures but I dislike calling tortures something that is not them.

 

Out of curiosity, how many times are you going to keep telling people that you're cool with torture, and that torture doesn't qualify as torture when you do it to your wife?

[nightscrawl]

Why is it weird to you no one is getting raped? I just don't understand the fascination with the topic.

And there are instances - albeit implied - of rape.

 

Happen to recall them? I really didn't notice any. Although I suppose that they could be dialogs that I didn't hear or something along those lines.

[HuldraDancer]

Happen to recall them? I really didn't notice any. Although I suppose that they could be dialogs that I didn't hear or something along those lines.

 

Sorry I know that I'm butting in a little here but one instance that I recall being discussed was Gatt being a sex slave. It's triggered by taking Spirit Cole with you on Iron Bull's personal quest. Or one of the things that gets triggered. Though its the only one I recall off the top of my head I have heard there are a few notes or codex entries you find that mention it but I almost never read them so I am unsure if that's true or not.

[Angry_Elcor]

If my inquisitor took the evil path I don't see why I should be limited at all. There should be a SPECIAL romance option for evil quiz if you get my drift.
Sera don't like my advances? Oh well then...time for the special romance option

Edit: if they added balanced homosexual options in order to make it more closely resembling "real" life then they should add the special romance option since there's a lot more instances of "special romance" than there is gay sex

 

Wow. Another person who thinks BioWare should make content to satisfy rape fantasies. And actually using the inclusion of gay characters to justify the request is an inspired bit of lunacy, I have to say.

[TheOgre]

Warning, Cole comes with uncomfortable rape talk.

Would love a label like that.

[Lord Surinen]

Thankfully, nobody is required to read what you have written in order to comment in threads.

 

 

That doesn't make sense as a reply to my post that you quoted. But please, don't explain.

 

 

Out of curiosity, how many times are you going to keep telling people that you're cool with torture, and that torture doesn't qualify as torture when you do it to your wife?

Indeed, nobody is required to pass coherent information. Quite a fancy-snarky way to say "I don't care what you said, but I will write about it anyway".

 

Yes, I have noticed it. Great many things do not make sense to you. Sure, I won't.

 

I will tell you it as many times as it is required of me that event presented by me does not qualify as torture. In fact, you did it again, bolded part: manipulation. I have never said such thing. I have said that showing fingers is not a torture because of the very nature of act, not because of the receiver.

[Winged Silver]

If my inquisitor took the evil path I don't see why I should be limited at all. There should be a SPECIAL romance option for evil quiz if you get my drift.
Sera don't like my advances? Oh well then...time for the special romance option

Edit: if they added balanced homosexual options in order to make it more closely resembling "real" life then they should add the special romance option since there's a lot more instances of "special romance" than there is gay sex

 

Okay, I'm getting the idea that you haven't really thought this through fully. This is an awful thing to want. There is nothing 'immersive' or 'good' about wanting this. If you're someone who does want this....that's kind of sadistic.  

[Angry_Elcor]

Indeed, nobody is required to pass coherent information. Quite a fancy-snarky way to say "I don't care what you said, but I will write about it anyway".

 

This is pretty a incoherent mess all around.

 

Yes, I have noticed it. Great many things do not make sense to you. Sure, I won't.

 

Still not making any sense to me. Are you having three conversations at once?

 

I will tell you it as many times as it is required of me that event presented by me does not qualify as torture. In fact, you did it again, bolded part: manipulation. I have never said such thing. I have said that showing fingers is not a torture because of the very nature of act, not because of the receiver.

 

That's another time. How many more times are you going to claim that torturing your wife is okay? I've completely lost count.

[nightscrawl]

Sorry I know that I'm butting in a little here but one instance that I recall being discussed was Gatt being a sex slave. It's triggered by taking Spirit Cole with you on Iron Bull's personal quest. Or one of the things that gets triggered. Though its the only one I recall off the top of my head I have heard there are a few notes or codex entries you find that mention it but I almost never read them so I am unsure if that's true or not.

Not at all, and thank you. I hadn't heard that one because I haven't taken Cole on that quest.

Warning, Cole comes with uncomfortable rape talk.

Would love a label like that.

I actually don't mind the inclusion of rape as a plot device, I just want it to be done sensibly and "well" (if I can phrase it that way...) An example of this is during the city elf origin in DAO.

However, in most media it's just a trope used to add an extra level of danger for the female character, which is not something that would be used for a male character. That kind of use I don't like. It is trite, and writers can do better.

[HuldraDancer]

Not at all, and thank you. I hadn't heard that one because I haven't taken Cole on that quest.

 

It may be random though since I've gotten different dialog with him on that quest but it does seem like he has to be more spirit like to get that line of dialog.

[Abyss108]

I remember when this topic was for discussing romance...

 

Those were good days... 

 

In a pathetic attempt to get this back on track, I will say neither Cass nor Josie seem very interesting to me as a LI. But then most of the LIs in most Bioware games don't appeal to me! If you look at the original straight LIs for women in this game, they don't appeal to me either. I mean, at least your LIs aren't child murderers right?

[Winged Silver]

And? There are many types of Inquisitors. Why is it wrong to want a sadistic one? It is immersive and it is good for the world you integrate yourself with. Themore power you have the more options to explore you should have. Whenever it is forced amorous encounter or selling brats to slave camps, it should be there.

 

You want to be rude to your companions? Alright, perfectly fine. Sometimes you need to let off a little steam. But the inclusion of rape - it's not a good addition. It's you choosing to watch someone, typically a character that's fully formed, in pain. And it's not 'plot pain' either. It's an awful thing to even consider requesting. 

[Dai Grepher]

So about the rape thing. I doubt that was ever intended to be an option for the player to do. I think Gaider was just saying there was to be a story about a rape having occurred to someone in the past. My guess is that it involved Sera being raped by a human male during her childhood. Which would explain her sexual preference. The story may have even culminated in her finally tracking the rapist down with the Inquisitor's help and possibly killing him. It would make sense that a story like that would be scrapped then. Way too much drama for what the game is supposed to be.

 

Personally, I am content with the romance options because my main character fits with Cassandra perfectly. So even if she were the only romance option, my playthrough would be well met. But I do agree that more options for other players is always a good thing.

[Angry_Elcor]

I'm not surprised. You become confused quickly, right?

 

You have told me to not explain, I did not.

 

Oh, I'm not confused. And you're right, you certainly haven't explained anything whatsoever.

 

I have never said such thing. Oh, don't bother yourself with numbers.

 

I won't, since I'd have to read back through it all to count it up. And besides, past evidence is that the pattern shows that you'll go back to talking about it repeatedly, regardless.

[TheOgre]

I remember when this topic was for discussing romance...

Those were good days...

Im out of likes so I quoted