It definitely is. But please, tell me - who are members of those organisations?
As Solas said:
"Was that a serious question?"
Or to say it in other words: Who do you think is a member of Amnesty International? North Korea? The IS?
But not every woman who think it's time for a little change has to be a member of the club. Infact, most women aren't. "Feminists" seem to be very evil and bad but we female players are very "normal". Is that really so hard to accept for the SMP?
Just because some are not included in the game it does not mean that they are not treated like human beings.
Well, obviously no one is automatically dehumanized for lack of representation in a video game, but it couldn't hurt. In any case, all this stuff about percentages and center of the world and all that doesn't matter. In the end, it's all about connecting to a wider audience. There's not much to gain from being myopic.
Well, obviously no one is automatically dehumanized for lack of representation in a video game, but it couldn't hurt. In any case, all this stuff about percentages and center of the world and all that doesn't matter. In the end, it's all about connecting to a wider audience. There's not much to gain from being myopic.
Actually there is something to gain, or rather maintain: integrity.Certain agendas should never be presented in the media, especially in the DA:I forceful incarnation.
Certain agendas should never be presented in the media...
While I'm a teensy bit curious as to what these supposed agendas actually entail, I can only assume that the reasoning behind this is that it might offend the more fragile sensibilities of certain people. The only sentiment I can carry for that lot is: f*ck 'em.
Actually there is something to gain, or rather maintain: integrity.Certain agendas should never be presented in the media, especially in the DA:I forceful incarnation.
It felt unbalanced because of the limitations there were, for me, at least, in terms of straight action. They took out a lot to make the LGBT community feel safer IMO.
Actually there is something to gain, or rather maintain: integrity.Certain agendas should never be presented in the media, especially in the DA:I forceful incarnation.
All agendas are always presented in medias since media itself is presentation of the reality and humans themselves.
It felt unbalanced because of the limitations there were, for me, at least, in terms of straight action. They took out a lot to make the LGBT community feel safer IMO.
I suspect that the intent was to mean specifically straight action for males, since straight action in general is much more substantial if you count the female PC getting with any of the male LI's, but it seems to me that this imbalance is strictly a matter of one's personal opinion of any given companion, not from any technicality in the game. If, say, a person who plays a female PC only wants to pursue the female companions, you have Josephine and Sera only, and if, say, that player hates Sera and doesn't care for Josephine's content, then this person would see a terrible imbalance too, even if the number of options are identical to the straight male.
I suspect that the intent was to mean specifically straight action for males, since straight action in general is much more substantial if you count the female PC getting with any of the male LI's, but it seems to me that this imbalance is strictly a matter of one's personal opinion of any given companion, not from any technicality in the game. If, say, a person who plays a female PC only wants to pursue the female companions, you have Josephine and Sera only, and if, say, that player hates Sera and doesn't care for Josephine's content, then this person would see a terrible imbalance too, even if the number of options are identical to the straight male.
This are my feeling on the matter. I felt left out mostly because I wasn't very appealed by either Cassandra or Josephine, with Cassandra being too aggressive for my taste while Josephine was a little too sweet. I aways felt like an middle ground was missing. I think it would have being fair if every preference got 3 romance options rather then 2. It was similar with me in DA2, for I didn't really liked Isabela or Merrill. While at least the woman could choose Sebastian who wasn't an total nutcase, like the rest of the romancable companions.
Nice to see how some won't even stop in equal option to everyone but go even futher than that 
While I'm a teensy bit curious as to what these supposed agendas actually entail, I can only assume that the reasoning behind this is that it might offend the more fragile sensibilities of certain people. The only sentiment I can carry for that lot is: f*ck 'em.
Yes, it is not a time nor place to go into details; forum rules and all that silly stuff. about your last words. beware, they may hold you on that 'promise'.
It felt unbalanced because of the limitations there were, for me, at least, in terms of straight action. They took out a lot to make the LGBT community feel safer IMO.
Yes, not to mention that you could hit 2 male companions but not even one female.DA:I is PR at its best. I can't wait until they put in dialogue 'check your privilege and stop minimalising my experiences!!!'
All agendas are always presented in medias since media itself is presentation of the reality and humans themselves.
No, they are not always presented nor should be, and if they are going to be presented then in proper light. Media have as much to do with reality as whales making 'selfies' with harpoons.
There is only one straight female in the game. It is ridiculous.
There is only one straight female in the game. It is ridiculous.
No, there's only one straight woman who's romanceable by the PC. Vivienne still exists, as do Morrigan, Flemeth and a bunch of other straight female NPCs.
I suspect that the intent was to mean specifically straight action for males, since straight action in general is much more substantial if you count the female PC getting with any of the male LI's, but it seems to me that this imbalance is strictly a matter of one's personal opinion of any given companion, not from any technicality in the game. If, say, a person who plays a female PC only wants to pursue the female companions, you have Josephine and Sera only, and if, say, that player hates Sera and doesn't care for Josephine's content, then this person would see a terrible imbalance too, even if the number of options are identical to the straight male.
I realize my stance isn't really popular, not on the forum because I get a wave of people telling me "no your just made the stick is more equal" or responses like that in general to try to lessen it like that. I feel like trying to justify my stance also earns me negative karma from straight women and LGBT because it comes off as hate to them. Though, uhm, no offense to you or anyone that likes Sera, but I just can't understand how anyone would find her attractive, other than her off the cuff personality. She's just, well, new, which is good because we never got a city elf companion until now, and she's just far from the cultured Daelish or Solas. Hah..
Just know that I'm disappointed and I don't think trying to restate why will do anyone any good.
No, there's only one straight woman who's romanceable by the PC. Vivienne still exists, as do Morrigan, Flemeth and a bunch of other straight female NPCs.
This thread is about romance. Most obviously I meant the romanceable ones. Only one straight romanceable female is ridiculous.
This thread is about romance. Most obviously I meant the romanceable ones. Only one straight romanceable female is ridiculous.
In regards to Straight women's options, yes, I'd say we did get the shaft.
Yes, it is not a time nor place to go into details; forum rules and all that silly stuff. about your last words. beware, they may hold you on that 'promise'.
There is only one straight female in the game. It is ridiculous.
So what? Origins only has one straight female companion that you can romance too.
So what? Origins only has one straight female companion that you can romance too.
But, this is Inquisition.. No offense!
Point is, the only thing that's changed is the proportion, while the number of options for a straight male PC remains the same across the series.
So what? Origins only has one straight female companion that you can romance too.
So that it is the third game not Origins. Other, less prominent groups have received content that should be offered to most probably the biggest monetary contributors: straight males. Point is that it should have changed. Lately I have discovered that there were no straight romances in DA2, except for Sebastian. It becomes worse and worse with new installations, more and more agendas. For some otherworldly reason female players receive more options than male and non straight romances equal straight romances.
I say straight male romances should always have +1 more than any other party.
This are my feeling on the matter. I felt left out mostly because I wasn't very appealed by either Cassandra or Josephine, with Cassandra being too aggressive for my taste while Josephine was a little too sweet. I aways felt like an middle ground was missing. I think it would have being fair if every preference got 3 romance options rather then 2. It was similar with me in DA2, for I didn't really liked Isabela or Merrill. While at least the woman could choose Sebastian who wasn't an total nutcase, like the rest of the romancable companions.
Well that kind of goes to my comment on imbalance in terms of personal preference. Obviously some characters are just not going to gel with people and some will be left out. The same can happen in DA:O if you happen to really hate Morrigan and Leliana's about to give you diabetes, just as issues can come up with Isabela and Merrill. Companions in general are pretty messed up lol.
As for Sebastian, well, I can't say that he's exactly a beacon of light himself. He does pledge to attack an entire city if you don't execute a single person. Mofo could've just done it himself instead of storm off. He has arrows. He can do it from a distance!
Oh, hey, I understand that argument -- But my point is that the game was not catered to - ME -and that's why I'm disappointed. This isn't even meant to be offensive but, there are a lot more male gamers out there, but the % of effort put into people that share my interests are actually smaller as a result of focus diverted. The options we were given are not even primarily in romance options, but you can see them there too. Dorian, I don't know that many people who have complaints about his character, and I know with some degree to certainty that there aren't too many people who found Sera as their option too satisfied. A lot more attention went into Straight female romance options, and gay male options in this (and it can show quite so).
They took out quite a bit mind you, of what DA:O had, unrelated, but DA:O and DA2 had female desire demons, ****** houses (DA:2 more for comedic effect), and a lot more creeper situations (not really necessary but this will be relevant to my post).
The one desire demon we had, Imshael, tried to coerce something very terifying for a dying red templar, something that templar refused to give over, whether it was his soul or sex I don't know but I make the claim that suggestion in possibility is there. In prior games, we got somewhat proactive characters that weren't shy or prudes about sex. Cassandra, AND Josephine are shy as heck. Blackwall/IB/Dorian/Sera are more confident in themselves as a whole. The only difference between Jose/Cassandra is that Cassandra isn't afraid of putting a boot in your ass, where Josie is a complete Disney romance.
The point I'm making here is that they put a lot more thought into romance for almost every other sub group category than straight male in terms of personality alone. The 'generic' ****** house, or even desire demon, female.. Gone. This game is proof that they were trying so hard to diversify the game that they were lazy with straight dudes.
Would love to get an actual survey of straight/gay/lesbian/trans for the population for this game. Marketing is probably on that already.
So that it is the third game not Origins. Other, less prominent groups have received content that should be offered to most probably the biggest monetary contributors: straight males. Point is that it should have changed. Lately I have discovered that there were no straight romances in DA2, except for Sebastian. It becomes worse and worse with new installations, more and more agendas. For some otherworldly reason female players receive more options than male and non straight romances equal straight romances.
I say straight male romances should always have +1 more than any other party.
I can see it now. Straight Males vs. BioWare. It'll be like the trial in Miracle on 34th Street. The lawyer calls in some men carrying sacks full of receipts for each purchase by these guys as his Exhibit A.
So that it is the third game not Origins. Other, less prominent groups have received content that should be offered to most probably the biggest monetary contributors: straight males. Point is that it should have changed. Lately I have discovered that there were no straight romances in DA2, except for Sebastian. It becomes worse and worse with new installations, more and more agendas. For some otherworldly reason female players receive more options than male and non straight romances equal straight romances.
I say straight male romances should always have +1 more than any other party.
It's not agenda to have different kind of people in the games, sexualities included.
I can see it now. Straight Males vs. BioWare. It'll be like the trial in Miracle on 34th Street. The lawyer calls in some men carrying sacks full of receipts for each purchase by these guys as his Exhibit A.
If it were actually equal, which I don't feel it was, I suspect a lot of those 'receipts' would have vanished too, but quite a bit are actually due to bugs/inability to play their hard copy of DA:I thanks to game breaking bugs.
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Gaider and the rest of the DA team have already said numerous times that they are interested in going in this direction, though. I can understand you wanting to see more diverse options for straight males. I'm totally supportive of that. I feel like straight guys have the least diversity in their options in the series (5 humans, 1 elf). But you aren't entitled to more just because you are the majority. The devs have been clear about that.
Their decisions aren't really affecting their overall sales that much. To be honest, the vast majority of straight guys aren't interested in boycotting future games because of the male romance options. And the few that do are replaced by the additional female and/or LGBT players that the game attracts. This is a case of a game company deciding to create games that they want to make, versus being pressured to create games that people think they should make. That's what we (the gaming community) have been asking for and Bioware is doing it. The problem is that they are doing it in a way that the majority wasn't expecting.
I disagree that straight guys were neglected. Cassandra is one of the best written characters in the game. I agree that Josephine is a dud, but Cass is fantastic. Straight guys got the same amount of options that they've always gotten and the same amount of options as gay guys and lesbians. Hopefully you like the options in the next game better. I didn't like either of my options in the last game, but I didn't see that as a slight against my demographic.
Well on my first playtrough i played male elf...i was kinda nervous about advances Culen was making. Well Dorian was funny and even as straight i was thinking that maybe i can give it a shot...then he bugged.
I was not looking at the spoilers ... so i was quite surprised at ONE straight woman option, especialy my elf flirted around...obviously beign Inquisitor was not good enough for the rest of the womens...
But really the romance with Josephine was soo shallow i was considering breaking up with her!. In previous BW games, the romances was like side-story...but it let you feel you are part of their story, and they are part of yours. (ME1-3, DA 1-2), especialy Morgana, Liara, Ashley.
The romances in DAI feel so side storied...like friends with priviligies, nothing more.
Please consider making romances more deep next game.
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