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[Reginald Cousins]

Whining is great.  It gets results.  Look at the new DC.  On perilous, the uppercut does like 30% of your health on a clothie.  Fear lasts for like one second and also barely scratches you.  His autoattacks are a joke too.  Even before, demon was actually the best perilous farming faction because of non blockers.  Now it is even easier.  Thanks Bioware for always listening to the people.

 

Great now I'm whining about whiners.  I'm a hypocrite too boys.

 

Edit:  Get a clue.  I know the whining from this small forum section alone didn't get DC nerfed.  I'm simply complaining about people who couldn't L2P which resulted in Bioware's decision to completely neuter the DC.  Granted I posted this in this forum, but it doesn't mean I am directing this just on the whine threads about nerf DCs.

Modifié par Reginald Cousins, 20 janvier 2015 - 10:41 .

[Geth Supremacy]

good to know.  Tell me more.  PS doesn't get patches till late evening in my time zone.

 

Also....nice call on whining about people whining

 

How bout key drops and the Red Templar Commander?

[J. Peterman]

You're welcome buddy.

[Trickshaw]

You're welcome.

[Reginald Cousins]

Right now my friend and I are trying to see the Elven Ruins burning route.  We're spam hosting games to try and find it.  We're on attempt #30 or so and have not been able to spawn the burning route.  We don't think it's actually in or we're just "unlucky."

 

Also with the new patch, it looks like Bioware changed the colors of the highend Inquisition armors.  The nice blue or red hoodie for Archers?  Gone, you get green or dirty yellow hoodies instead.  Keeper's clowntown red and blue robe gone etc. 

[Mofojokers]

What about the key bug because people are posting it still there?.

[Reginald Cousins]

What about the key bug because people are posting it still there?.

No idea.  We just did one run for Demons.  We're wasting our lives looking for the Elven Ruins destruction dlc route atm by spam creating games. 

[IanLai]

from the beginning the design of DC damage is not tested

everyone insist should not get nerfed give the same reason , it is the ONLY challenge

is the other faction too easy, or DC is cheap

if  they did not make such a ridiculous cheap enemy,  no one would whine.

oh yes someone would ask for buff on everything

 

why people get a ton of promotion. the best equipment ,superb accessory etc

tell others there is no challenge. remove all equipment. buy the entirely new DAI

don't do promotion ever , u must have tone of challenge

[SpaceV3gan]

Bioware certainly had the newbies in mind when they've decided to nerf the DC. Probably they didn't actually take BSN's whining into account so much. Otherwise they would have nerfed the RTC as well. The fact that demons are now too easy for some is a mere side effect. The idea is to make the game more accessible, I believe.

[actionhero112]

I own a vineyard.

 

My job is whining. 

[Beerfish]

BioWare makes no changes unless their telemetry data can back it up.  If there is a lot of 'whining' about certain things they will look at their data.  If the data supports it they will make a change.

[stysiaq]

Yep, I guess the accumulated data of wipes is what makes them nerf/buff things, not a couple of threads here.

 

Face it, most people aren't good at this game and don't sink so much hours as some 'pros' here.

So they wipe. Mostly against Demons. So they adjusted DC to match the 'dreaded' RTC and VC.

[JRandall0308]

Any enemy one of whose claims to fame is was "make you unable to act for several seconds" is terrible game design and should never be allowed in any game ever.

 

[/NotAWhine]

[Djed]

Anyone know when this comes out on PSN?
What's BSN?

[stysiaq]

Any enemy one of whose claims to fame is was "make you unable to act for several seconds" is terrible game design and should never be allowed in any game ever.

 

[/NotAWhine]

 

 

I second that. Though I dislike the nerf, the DC was actually terribly designed. The fear effect first and foremost - the underground attack can be easily avoided with every class, but denying the player control of his character for such a long time was stupid.

[Mofojokers]

Anyone know when this comes out on PSN?
What's BSN?

Here ya go bud

http://answers.ea.co...253620#U4253620



But from the posts of it we could see a massive delay to correct what people are seeing on the pc atm.

Mainly the fact that people are reporting the key bug is still there and that the new map is not there.


Edit: unlike pc were updates and fix can be pushed willy nilly

Console versions of the game must go through console certification and that costs money and time.

[Kjubaran]

from the beginning the design of DC damage is not tested

everyone insist should not get nerfed give the same reason , it is the ONLY challenge

is the other faction too easy, or DC is cheap

if  they did not make such a ridiculous cheap enemy,  no one would whine.

oh yes someone would ask for buff on everything

 

why people get a ton of promotion. the best equipment ,superb accessory etc

tell others there is no challenge. remove all equipment. buy the entirely new DAI

don't do promotion ever , u must have tone of challenge

Or you could play this game naked IRL and not eating for 5 days only drinking water...cmon thats challenge too......

[Aetika]

Do you really think they change the game based on few people from forum? They almost certainly make changes based on game datas.

[eyezonlyii]

what about dying before my character is even fully revived? that's more annoying than the demon commander ever was.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Whining is great.  It gets results.  Look at the new DC.  On perilous, the uppercut does like 30% of your health on a clothie.  Fear lasts for like one second and also barely scratches you.  His autoattacks are a joke too.  Even before, demon was actually the best perilous farming faction because of non blockers.  Now it is even easier.  Thanks Bioware for always listening to the people.

 

Great now I'm whining about whiners.  I'm a hypocrite too boys.

 

Edit:  Get a clue.  I know the whining from this small forum section alone didn't get DC nerfed.  I'm simply complaining about people who couldn't L2P which resulted in Bioware's decision to completely neuter the DC.  Granted I posted this in this forum, but it doesn't mean I am directing this just on the whine threads about nerf DCs.

 

Funny how you know about the results of a patch that hasn't come out yet.

 

Also, I'm not sure that an adjustment to the DC even has anything to do with what has gone on in the forums. Traditionally, the forums are part - but the last part - of influencing those decisions. Their own testing and QA forms 90% of the reasons BioWare adjusts balance. At least, that's according to the devs themselves.

[UnearthlyCheese]

I second that. Though I dislike the nerf, the DC was actually terribly designed. The fear effect first and foremost - the underground attack can be easily avoided with every class, but denying the player control of his character for such a long time was stupid.

What's wrong with the fear???

We can do it to mobs, why not have them do it to us? Besides, some classes can break the fear, while others can remove it.

Or you can just avoid getting feared to begin with...


Hell, I've played games where the AI will take "mind control" your character and use it to attack your friends. It's actually really damn funny.

But why cry "because I lost control of my character for a period of time"..lol.

L2move, L2domorethanautoattack

[Reginald Cousins]

Funny how you know about the results of a patch that hasn't come out yet.

 

Also, I'm not sure that an adjustment to the DC even has anything to do with what has gone on in the forums. Traditionally, the forums are part of - but the last part - of influencing those decisions. Their own testing and QA forms 90% of the reasons BioWare adjusts balance. At least, that's according to the devs themselves.

The F did I just read?

 

Are you that oblivious?  You quoted my entire message with the edit portion and you still respond with that?  And patch hasn't come out yet?  Look around you.  Look at all the new posts about this and that being broken still etc.  Guess what it means? 

[IanLai]

Or you could play this game naked IRL and not eating for 5 days only drinking water...cmon thats challenge too......

i am not the one ask for challenge

i agree to nerf DC

[Shinnyshin]

Tbf, most of the "whining" was well justified.  He was unarguably too hard on lower difficulties and too punishing of ping.  He was also a very antifun fight given how often he was flat-out untargetable.

 

I'm not sure you can fairly blame the "whiners" for the balance team's botched job.

[Eldial3los]

Dc is almost easy as the VC boss now. This is definitely over-nerfed by a huge amount.

 

The problem is people going into threatening or perilous with zero strategy, under gear and under level and getting wiped.

 

In Diablo you stay in your Zone until you have sufficient gear and level to proceed onto the next level. (Yes, you farm until you get better unique gear to move on) If you proceed to the next zone under gear no one is going to hold your hand , you die from everything almost one shot. Those blue and purple enemies. Those are not even the boss of the level. It seem to me people in Diablo understand this principle but not  DAMP. Everyone is rushing to levels because  higher lvl = more gold.

 

Play casual, farm gear until u get good gear, and good skill tree understanding, move to threatening

Play threatening until you get best gear, master your skill rotation, effectiveness + gain some promoting points

Play Perilous  for challenge once you are equipped for it. And if possible with competent group of people