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[thesuperdarkone2]

Imagine this, DA4 has gossip that Southern Thedas has disbanded its circles and templars for various reasons. For instance, the mages rebel and templars form the Silver Shield if Cass or Vivienne are divine or Leliana disbands them anyway. Your thoughts?

[Deebo305]

Im actually expecting this regardless of how the ending goes

 

Best bet, next game takes place a decade or two after Inquistion to justify this and use an entirely new cast

[thesuperdarkone2]

Im actually expecting this regardless of how the ending goes

 

Best bet, next game takes place a decade or two after Inquistion to justify this and use an entirely new cast

Considering how mages get more freedom and the templars lose power regardless of which ending occurs, this seems likely. After all, the devs have said that the mage-templars debates would end in this game. 

[stonerbishop]

Maybe they will all have been made tranquil.

[Jestina]

There are probably not enough high ranking people left to hold them together. So many of them got wiped out that their leadership structure is broken. It makes more sense for them to fall apart than staying cohesive.

[Fiery Phoenix]

It would actually not surprise me in the slightest. Wouldn't be the first time our choices have been rendered meaningless.

[Aaleel]

Well that would be my canon ending anyway. Leliana as Divine putting an end to the madness. I wouldn't be shocked though, it seems like all the factions will be on their own team trying to coexist.

[Daerog]

As Ragabul said, they will probably pay lip service to our choices in the fourth game if it set in the far corners of the Anderfels or in Tevinter.

 

I would expect the fifth one to probably be a huge invasion of Kossith, Qunari, or something that shatters the stability of Thedas and the nations take control of their own Circles and Templars... although, that would be kind of repetitive with world threatening disaster after another in just 70 years or whatever.

 

Perhaps the nations themselves will just end up saying, "whatever to what the Chantry or Inquisition wants, we are dealing with our own mage citizens and have our own magic police force." I fully expect nations to take control of their own mages if Leliana is made Divine (bleh), because why would they send their mages to an independent organization? Why not have their own schools where the mages will identify with their nation and serve their nation rather than some landless nation of magic users? The nations bow to the Chantry because their people are Andrastian and they could easily lose their power if they rebel against it, what reason do they have to obey the College of Enchanters? Sure, some mages could volunteer to go there like with the Inquisition and Grey Wardens, but I think nobles would like to take more advantage of their mage subjects, or mages would probably like to seek power in their own nations.

 

 

I can see future games not being so different if either vivienne or Cassandra are elected, since it involves Circles with some Chantry oversight and more mage tolerance, but Leliana kind of throws all that out the window.

 

I was surprised that BW had that option as an ending. Orzammar can easily be ignored, as can be seen in DA2 and DA:I, but the situation of mages in Thedas is difficult to ignore or side step.

[Ieldra]

It would actually not surprise me in the slightest. Wouldn't be the first time our choices have been rendered meaningless.

A choice does not derive its meaning from divergent outcomes, but from different goals.

[EmissaryofLies]

No reaction at all; Tevinter will neutralize them with extreme prejudice.

[Jackums]

It looks like this is the inevitable outcome, anyway. There's been a lot of subliminal hinting that the Circle/Templar system is not going to last, and that much of the issues with magic come from a lack of understanding and the blind fear that the Chantry instigates.

[Ashagar]

There are also hints that not everything the chantry says is propaganda as well that the anti-magic sentiment did not originate with the chantry but the result of the blights and the darkspawn for which tevinter and its magisters were blamed as their old gods rose as arch-demons leading the hordes as well as the general depravities Tevinter inflicted on southern thadas.

 

Lets face it, before the chantry most of the the people of southern thadas were basically trying to kill every mage and suspected mage they could get their hands on.

 

As for the future I suspect it will be the other way around with reforms of the Templars, the seekrers, the circles and the circles taking hold for the good of all but with the south being extremely fragile with only the inquisition keeping things stable.

[stonerbishop]

I expect we will hear little, if anything about the debacle

[Draining Dragon]

I've been working on the railroad...

[SetecAstronomy]

I would guess we see more mages policing their own. It would be pretty cool to see  a mage specialization based on Templar abilities. A mage mage-hunter or something.

[thesuperdarkone2]

I would guess we see more mages policing their own. It would be pretty cool to see  a mage specialization based on Templar abilities. A mage mage-hunter or something.

Well mages have the dispel abilities. So mages are capable of fighting other mages.

[Nefla]

Apathy. The game didn't do enough to make me care about what was happening in the actual game let alone the ending slides.

[Steelcan]

they are going to tell the story they want and will retcon anything that gets in the way of that

[Marshal Moriarty]

Whatever they do, this will not be a focus of future games, but they have beat this horse to death so many times now. If they let us reinstate the Circles and Templars in Inquisition (as the majority of the endings do), then disband them *again* (or the reverse, allowing Leliana to disband them, but then reinstating them), then its just going to be the same old song. So whatever they do and wherever they choose to do it, I really can't see them wanting to go back to this whole issue, because there simply isn't any more to say that hasn't already been said or done. Both sides have made their cases, they've had a rebellion, it ended. If you start it up again, it'll feel beyond pointless.

 

Which is what makes me think that Dragon Age probably is done. If it continues, it will likely be as a MMO (which frankly it basically already is now). I just don't feel much enthusiasm coming from the writers either in this game, or in terms of what they want to do in future. We'll see, but I really wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a new Dragon Age game, because I doubt we'll see another one during this gen that isn't an MMO.

[BackdoorPaco]

I figure by DA6: Cory Strikes Back™ it'll be revealed that everyone is a mage and everyone can cast fireballs and then everyone fireballs Cory's son Colin and everyone sits huddled around Colin's burning carcass while holding hands and singing campfire songs and drinking purple nug drank and Leliana still hasn't aged past 20 cause ashes while Morrigan's popping out babies like a factory on overtime to repopulate the world cause something something 'you are the only hope Thedas has' something something.

[Aimi]

A choice does not derive its meaning from divergent outcomes, but from different goals.

I love this.

I mean, I don't fully agree with it, because divorcing a choice's meaning from outcome entirely is, I think, extremely bad ethics, not to mention viscerally dissatisfying in the context of playing a game with choices in it. But to suggest that choices have no meaning independent of outcome is stupid, and it's refreshing to see somebody say it in the midst of the usual "BIOWER MY CHOISES DUNT MATTER" circle-jerk.

You're awesome.

[Recidiva]

I'm assuming the next game will be in Tevinter, if only because Dorian was saying how much worse things are there, and that the Orlesian court was kinda sweet.

 

Even if the rest of Thedas has its crap together (not betting on it...) It would be the most likely place to have to fix next.

 

The main issue there would be slavery and setting the Circles free not even an issue, as the circles rule there.

 

The Inquisition also has the opportunity to work fairly closely and directly with Tallis if you choose to keep the Qunari alliance (don't ask, crying.)

 

At the end of the game it's possible that the circles are free, Templars are essentially disbanded and the Inquisition and the Qun are good buddies with a common embarrassment in the form of Tevinter.

 

We also have a fairly unstable God thingy running about, could be help, could be hindrance, but again there...God thingy if they are concerned about "The People" will see them most oppressed in Tevinter.

 

My guess would be to be playing on a new board entirely without the same setup, but with the Inquisition having kicked some Ferelden and Orlesian butt and not having that much to do otherwise.

 

The Circles will all fall eventually, it's just not a sustainable way to deal with people.  They'll keep blowing up until something else replaces it.

[Jaison1986]

The circle will aways exists, no matter who is the new divine. It's only an matter of who controls it, the Chantry or the mages themselves. The templars is another story, however, since they can either be restored by Cassandra or Vivienne, or forever disbanded by Leliana. It would nice if at least some of our choices are not railroaded.