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#26
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:12
Ok sorry that might've been a little harsh but the fact he lied about being a Grey Warden really REALLY rubbed me the wrong way.
And no. The inquisitor can't just throw the archdemon in the fade because there is more than 1 and they are imprisoned underground. The Archdemons call to the darkspawn to release them. When the darkspawn find an Archdemon a blight is begun. The Hero of Ferelden ended the last blight by killing the fifth Archdemon (there are 7 total) so in order for the inquisitor to cast them into the fade they would first have to travel deep underground (the deep roads) and seek out the last 2 Archdemons, which would be nearly impossible since the inquisitor is not a Grey Warden and only Grey Wardens can hear the call of the Old Gods (the calling they mention)
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#27
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:17
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Lol kidding, I'm sure most people know by now. Personally, I say people need to get over it. He pretended so that he'd be in a position to help people, which you saw when he conscripted those farmers temporarily so that they'd fight the bandits themselves with his help.
He's trying to make up for his sins. Yea he lied, boo hoo, get over it, people lie. His was rather big and did put you in a bit of a jam if you conscripted anyone with his name, but the man was about to kill himself over the entire thing to pay for his sins. People's lives are bigger than your hurt feelings.
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#28
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:19
]Blackwall is NOT a Grey Warden, he's a liar and a fake, he knows nothing of what it means to be a Grey Warden. All he knows about Grey Wardens is that they fight darkspawn. He's a wanna-be.
Ok sorry that might've been a little harsh but the fact he lied about being a Grey Warden really REALLY rubbed me the wrong way.
And no. The inquisitor can't just throw the archdemon in the fade because there is more than 1 and they are imprisoned underground. The Archdemons call to the darkspawn to release them. When the darkspawn find an Archdemon a blight is begun. The Hero of Ferelden ended the last blight by killing the fifth Archdemon (there are 7 total) so in order for the inquisitor to cast them into the fade they would first have to travel deep underground (the deep roads) and seek out the last 2 Archdemons, which would be nearly impossible since the inquisitor is not a Grey Warden and only Grey Wardens can hear the call of the Old Gods (the calling they mention)
wow I... was not aware of that.. GREAT lol! i love it! now i have to change my theory again give me time to think about it T_T I was gonna ask a question regarding blackwall being a warden and how come he did not hear that calling but that makes sense haha
I had suspicions but seeing it being true is just awesome
#29
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:23
]Blackwall is NOT a Grey Warden, he's a liar and a fake, he knows nothing of what it means to be a Grey Warden. All he knows about Grey Wardens is that they fight darkspawn. He's a wanna-be.
Ok sorry that might've been a little harsh but the fact he lied about being a Grey Warden really REALLY rubbed me the wrong way.
And no. The inquisitor can't just throw the archdemon in the fade because there is more than 1 and they are imprisoned underground. The Archdemons call to the darkspawn to release them. When the darkspawn find an Archdemon a blight is begun. The Hero of Ferelden ended the last blight by killing the fifth Archdemon (there are 7 total) so in order for the inquisitor to cast them into the fade they would first have to travel deep underground (the deep roads) and seek out the last 2 Archdemons, which would be nearly impossible since the inquisitor is not a Grey Warden and only Grey Wardens can hear the call of the Old Gods (the calling they mention)
awesome i just read the entire thing! GOOD LORD THIS IS AWESOME AND REFRESHING! So tossing into the fade is not a theory.. it is possible to do this, however in regards that grey wardens are the only ones able to hear darkspawn, it is harder or close to impossible to achieve! Good Points!!!!!!
I dont mind blackwall being a wanna be lol! Its good that you clarified this!
* just an apology guys! but if I really did not find this game interesting I would not be so active in asking probably dumb questions.
#30
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:24
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#31
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:29
Oh wow. I was unaware you didn't know, you said you've played it twice now so I figured you already got that quest... :/ my bad *backs away slowly*
nope i played twice, however both are capped at only 90 hours on average with each character. I did the missions with Hawke and with Wicked Eyes and Wicked hearts. Right now i am at skyhold trying to find more dragons, collect stuff, and think about theories. The game of inquisition is a finished product, however i am interested in summarizing some plot stuff thus far, finding some stuff that can/can not be done what not as well as figuring out what is in for us in the future, since i will be a bioware supporter. This game seriously did it for me. Every element of it is just like a lineage 2 and gosh for an oldschooler like me.. it is very refreshing to see a game like that! (no im not as old as you might think, however i do have history of gaming at about 17 years capped at about 8-10 hours a day. I have free time to type this today... g2 work tomorrow tho... sigh finances cant solve themselves :@ ECONOMISTS DONT REST GOSH DANG IT! but its ok haha
#32
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:29
Oh wow. I was unaware you didn't know, you said you've played it twice now so I figured you already got that quest... :/ my bad *backs away slowly*
Why do you ruin everything, Deanna?
#33
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:30
Oh wow. I was unaware you didn't know, you said you've played it twice now so I figured you already got that quest... :/ my bad *backs away slowly*
I thought he did too when he said he should have been quiet about Blackwall, LOL.
Was confused then and thought he was playing ignorant when he called him a grey warden. Lolol.
#34
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:33
15) Vivienne challenges everyone to power fight and yet she is the first to die in combat ironically, Pls explain
Last night my Rift Mage (fem-Elf) and Vivienne spanked the Highland Ravager on our own. She is a bad ass esp if you let the AI choose her skills. So yes she is a complete ****** but she can walk the walk and talk the talk.
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#35
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:36
15) Vivienne challenges everyone to power fight and yet she is the first to die in combat ironically, Pls explain
Last night my Rift Mage (fem-Elf) and Vivienne spanked the Highland Ravager on our own. She is a bad ass esp if you let the AI choose her skills. So yes she is a complete ****** but she can walk the walk and talk the talk.
Tell me the trick pls! !! She sucks in my game! She is just totally... all talk no job kinda thing
She rushes in and dies
! how did you make her viable? IF i control her its decent enough due to my weird playstyle, however if its AI solas does better job for me and trust me solas for me is a GOD in CC (crowd control) and Supporting! (plus the dude is weirdly awesome, talks a lot but is awesome ).
#36
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:40
Tell me the trick pls! !! She sucks in my game! She is just totally... all talk no job kinda thing
She rushes in and dies
! how did you make her viable? IF i control her its decent enough due to my weird playstyle, however if its AI solas does better job for me and trust me solas for me is a GOD in CC (crowd control) and Supporting! (plus the dude is weirdly awesome, talks a lot but is awesome ).
Dude what? Just give her Knight enchanter powers, mainly the ones that charge her barriers with each hit. Vivienne is a god.
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#37
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:44
btw dont worry Deanna did not spoil anything for me at all! I had my suspicions! And I got an answer for it!
I should have clarified about the game myself lol its no1 else's fault but mine for not clarifying. Ppl in weird ways tend to finish games in diff time stamps. I tend to no matter how hard i try, not finish games... ever especially if it is something I am so deeply emerged in! The only game that did it to me before was the first game I was ever introduced to when i was 4 years old on an old old pc: It was called lineage 1 and than there came half life 1
. After that ive played lineage 2 and gosh nostalgia in this game is like it was here back in time
when me and my fellow friends do sieges, fight GODDESS OF DARKNESS, preachers of doom, For salvation vs undead, the whole war of cardinals and bishops... understand me guys
i love this game which is why i keep asking questions
haha again i suggest saving this post... it will get interesting. I can promise no less.
watch it to get the feel for me
the DA:I is awesome
#38
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:45
Tell me the trick pls! !! She sucks in my game! She is just totally... all talk no job kinda thing
She rushes in and dies
! how did you make her viable? IF i control her its decent enough due to my weird playstyle, however if its AI solas does better job for me and trust me solas for me is a GOD in CC (crowd control) and Supporting! (plus the dude is weirdly awesome, talks a lot but is awesome ).
the secret to Viv is usiing her as an "ice queen". Let the game pick her spells and all of that. Give her the best cold staffs in the game (assuming you are not using them as a mage). Tempest or Arch-Mage Sr. Enchanter staff works well for her. Use her to counter fire situations, She is perfect for the hissing wastes and tears apart all the cold weakened dragons.
Always give her the best Battle Mage armour with high willpower and fire resistance (arms & legs). I personally craft her armour specifically to counter fire attacks.
In the tactics section make sure you select which spells you want her to focus on esp when you are fighting dragons.
She really is a bad ass.
#39
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:49
Dude what? Just give her Knight enchanter powers, mainly the ones that charge her barriers with each hit. Vivienne is a god.
i just like her AOE which basically freezes enemies lol. But i wil ltry it out
On the other hand, solas with full Barrier tree specs and full Frost specs, ends up criting like a god and does so much crowd control that no one has chance to do much T_T He is just SOO GUD! (dorian tho is a killing machine for me however i g2g into tactial mode for it. Plant bomb mostly on enemies, Wind them together with sola's AOE, do dmg to the bombed guy w my rogue and boom you have chain reaction of dps! that being said add it with Cassandra Tanking oh god the foresight is so gud!
#40
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:54
I'll be honest with you, Solas and Dorian, while I love them, can't hold a candle to her, as far as just independent comparisons go. I don't need Vivienne as much as a warrior, as I can usually keep enemies off of Solas and Dorian just fine, but when fighting dragons? With that stupid wind sucking ability, or enemies that pop up on your mages etc...
Basically, she may not do crowd control like the other two, but a good mage isn't a dead mage. For once. (jk)
And neither of them last as long as she does, especially on higher difficulties. But if you can't keep Solas and Dorian alive, then you're not doing your job tactically.
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#41
Posté 20 janvier 2015 - 11:55
You really should go back and play Dragon Age: Origins. The combat is a little old fashioned, but OMG the story! And the Deep Roads, and Duncan! It is the game that turned me into a rabid RPG gamer! Dragon Age: Awakenings too.
Vivienne is a dragon-slaying goddess! Build her well and when your other characters are bleeding on the ground, she's still kicking the dragon's butt! I ended up taking down a dragon with just her once - ran out of potions, left everyone else on the ground and just kept hacking away with the spirit blade.
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#42
Posté 21 janvier 2015 - 12:09
I'll be honest with you, Solas and Dorian, while I love them, can't hold a candle to her, as far as just independent comparisons go. I don't need Vivienne as much as a warrior, as I can usually keep enemies off of Solas and Dorian just fine, but when fighting dragons? With that stupid wind sucking ability, or enemies that pop up on your mages etc...
Basically, she may not do crowd control like the other two, but a good mage isn't a dead mage. For once. (jk)
And neither of them last as long as she does, especially on higher difficulties. But if you can't keep Solas and Dorian alive, then you're not doing your job tactically.
gotchya chief!
but thats the problem with me
I cant keep vivi alive and I am in a nightmare as it is. Right now im jsut trying to manipulate chests to get tier 3 good schematics, i farmed my share of tier 3 items at this point. I had to travel to so many locations to gather all that ore and do tha war table missions to gather some scarce resources. Also the fade touched obsidian spawn rate is soo little
but i managed to get my hands on 3 of those. If you can tell me exactly what lvl is your vivi, what enchantments do you use on her and what skill order I'd appriciate trying it out!
So far cassandra does good job in my party of tanking ( she has so many taunts).
#43
Posté 21 janvier 2015 - 12:10
oh shoot LoL ranked started ill brb
#44
Posté 21 janvier 2015 - 12:27
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#45
Posté 21 janvier 2015 - 12:49
I always spec Viv in the fire skill tree and the knight enchanter specialization. Along with the barrier spell, I give all my mages the barrier spell just makes sense. Once you get her leveled up in knight enchanter she's a beast, because her barrier regenerates with each successful attack and it makes her barrier stronger. Also there's a passive ability in the fire skill tree that gives spells a chance of not triggering a cool down (forgot which one) and I think it only does that with critical hits actually. Anyways, yea Knight Enchanter for her outrageous barrier strength and with that fire passive ability she'll be able to cast the same spell twice in a row.
of course I'm playing as a knight enchanter on nightmare and IM a beast, I don't need Vivienne
I won game... oh lol Niceeeeeeeeeee! But idk lol i find every build to be viable. I haven't touched a mage class yet as main protagonsit class. I find Rogue to be OP BROKEN! If i went assasin it'd be like playing zed from league of legends. Tempest is hands down weird class its not what i expected but i dont exploit the flask thing like most youtubers do, tho i do use flask of fire for stuff like getting behind target and infinitely using twin fangs that thing crits for good 5 k + dmg and right now i have shitty gear! I feel like classes in this game are all viable: You want all tank indestructible champ? go Champion/1-hsword and shield it will never let you stagger, you can block dragon attacks, power attacks and all. Also if you invest in battlemaster you regain stam quicker for % stam missing so wow you can hold this infinitely
I do want to try a 1h sword and shield warrior reaver with no 2-h sword for dps it will be godly undying rage champ the 1 that will have so much guard to have pentrate and on top of that low hp? no probs i do more dmg, low hp? no probs pop up that barrier and watch em wither, low hp and no barrier up? no probs 1 skill heal up to full hp with belt of healing! ![]()
All calsses r viable imo but i couldnt get knight enchanter to work for me just yet! Ive yet to try all my classes im thinking bout atm
but right now Im satisfied with my rogues, however i still dislike my playstyle cause idk i dont like rogues. Than again 3 shotting dragons? if thats not powerfull, idk wtf is.
#46
Posté 21 janvier 2015 - 12:55
Knight Enchanter's ability to autogenerate barrier that fast is ludicrously overpowered as is the spirit blade.
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#47
Posté 21 janvier 2015 - 01:03
Knight Enchanter's ability to autogenerate barrier that fast is ludicrously overpowered as is the spirit blade.
fairly instant cooldown, reasonable mana cost, (dunno about barrier again i dont run viv all that much but when i do (due to her Focus heal which i love) i find spirit blade being rlly good! I cant agree more with this!
and ppl coming into your sphere for time snapping into their face its just hilarious! Idk lol again this game gives you fairly good options. I'd love my rogue if you were allowed to carry dagger and bow together that would make for such an awesome combo!! like i want you to imagine in your head this : Flank attack, insta stealth followed with twin fangs/ripping fangs (combined with archer tree you get +25% bonus in first blood which stacks with daggers). after ripping fangs your out of stealth, use leaping shot with your bow to cover distance. (assuming we are tempest 1 of following happens). Your leaping shot is like shotgun skill so closer better! you got distance now what? pop in flask of fire and go into stealth for that bonus dmg. once r in stealth imidiately cover distance and use power shot followed with explosive shot for some massive AOE dmg and stagger (100% stagger chance idk why xD). if the target is still not dead!?!??!?!?! use the hook, to cover distance followed by another leaping shot, w a detonator for low % hp enemies dmg will be massive.
P.S I said IMAGINE xD. it would be broken? yes! It would be awesome? yes! It would be godly good? YES! it would make you feel like badass? YES! satisfaction guranteed ![]()
#48
Posté 21 janvier 2015 - 01:12
fairly instant cooldown, reasonable mana cost, (dunno about barrier again i dont run viv all that much but when i do (due to her Focus heal which i love) i find spirit blade being rlly good!
The real gamebreaker for Knight Enchanter is the endless barrier. I play a KE mage at the moment, and she is so durable it is not even funny. You gain barrier for every attack (at 30% of the damage dealt no less). You'll have the passive that gives you 50% mana regeneration boost for enemies in melee range to boot.
Frankly, Cole's battle cry "You can't hurt me!" would have been more appropriate for the KE.
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#49
Posté 21 janvier 2015 - 01:29
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#50
Posté 21 janvier 2015 - 01:58
Knight Enchanter's ability to autogenerate barrier that fast is ludicrously overpowered as is the spirit blade.
But it is SO MUCH FUN to be a biotic goddess once in awhile!





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