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Ziggy

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Dragon age is wonderfully inclusive of women in every aspect of the universe, which makes its consistent use of masculine pronouns all the more grating. Such terms no longer communicate a generic sense of “anyone”.

Yes it is a minor concern but the fix is just as minor! Using ‘people’ or ‘soldiers’ instead of ‘man’ or ‘men’; ‘humankind’ or ‘people’ instead of ‘man’ or ‘mankind’ etc.

 

refs

Studies show it effects your visualisation of what you’re told:

http://en.wikipedia....c_male_language

And there are heaps of inclusive alternatives to everything:

http://www.kentlaw.e...al_Language.htm


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Fidite Nemini

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I may be biased in my perception due to being a male, but I have not seen an abundance of masculine pronouns, or other kinds of language that seemed out of place.

 

 

Can you give a couple ingame dialogue examples to show where you think it's inappropriate?


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Really? How about no and leaving us alone.


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TurretSyndrome

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Oh for f*ck's sake...


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I'm almost 4 years on this forum and this is the first time i really wish there would be a dislike button. gz OP


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Dominic_910

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"man" refers to "huMANity" as a whole, it has f all to do with gender.


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Spectre Impersonator

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I bet Bioware reads this thread and makes it their number one priority instead of fixing all the game-breaking bugs and emotionless story.


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DaemionMoadrin

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Let's assume for a moment that you could make the game gender neutral in English... how do you propose to do the same in all the other languages? I can't see that happening in German... not without completely destroying the flow of the conversations.



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This is why we can't have nice things.


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*eyeroll


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Rizilliant

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Im not understanding this either.. My female character seems to be just fine.. Not only that, but this game already seems in excess of socialist, liberal hyperbole!


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SOMEONE CALL ANITA AND GIVE HER SCREENSHOTS OUT OF CONTEXT ABOUT OPPRESSING PEOPEL WITH PRONOUNS OR SOME ****. 


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Abyss108

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Geez, people sure do seem to be overreacting over a simple request which was admitted as being a very minor thing. 

 

Personally I'd prefer gender neutral language where possible, though unfortunately I also feel it doesn't work in how the Dragon Age world has been written. Would be nice though.


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Rizilliant

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Yes.. then you have guys who claim they  'feel' theyre a woman, and would prefer to use a bathroom designated for our women... Yes its minor, but the constant socialism being shoved down our throat is gotten out of hand tbh.. I play games to escape all that crap! This game couldnt have taken a more safe approach to gender equality, feminism, Gay and lesbian rights, etc...ffs its actually a challenge to get every single male, NOT to try and bed my male PC


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Fidite Nemini

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Yes.. then you have guys who claim they  'feel' theyre a woman, and would prefer to use a bathroom designated for our women... Yes its minor, but the constant socialism being shoved down our throat is gotten out of hand tbh.. I play games to escape all that crap! This game couldnt have taken a more safe approach to gender equality, feminism, Gay and lesbian rights, etc...ffs its actually a challenge to get every single male, NOT to try and bed my male PC

 

You don't enjoy Tevinter valleys?



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What do gender neutrality or transgender issues have to do with socialism?

 

(I'm going to regret asking that question, aren't I?)


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Rizilliant

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You don't enjoy Tevinter valleys?

I was completely blindsided by Dorian.......................................................



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Captain Wiseass

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Oh, and OP, could you maybe provide some specific examples? Because I don't really recall for myself how the series handles gender-ambiguous situations (text in codices, hypothetical discussions, etc.).



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Yes.. then you have guys who claim they  'feel' theyre a woman, and would prefer to use a bathroom designated for our women... Yes its minor, but the constant socialism being shoved down our throat is gotten out of hand tbh.. I play games to escape all that crap! This game couldnt have taken a more safe approach to gender equality, feminism, Gay and lesbian rights, etc...ffs its actually a challenge to get every single male, NOT to try and bed my male PC

 

...Considering there's only 2 male characters you can bed out of 7 male companions/advisors, and YOU have to initiate both of those, I'm rather curious as to how you got both of them and all the others to try and bed you...?

 

Not even gonna touch the rest of that post.


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The only one I can actually think of is "magic should not serve man, not rule over him".

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"help, im being oppressed by pronouns"


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Biotic Flash Kick

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this game was already castrated for creativity

 

why make it more Politically correct 


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Considering that english is (mostly) gender neutral unlike other european languages that have masculine and feminine versions of the same word. I think this is a silly request.


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you have got to be kidding me.

 

What next? Change the name of those big heavy metal covers in the road from manhole covers to "personhole" covers?


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Oh, good grief!


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