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 If one is so intent on escaping the real world, wouldn't it make sense to have the world you escape to be made up of a diverse and (more or less) accepting people?

Not if a more diverse and accepting world is what you're trying to escape from.

 

What sort of person that would be, I leave it to others to determine.


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I think you're being a bit ridiculous. These are just general terms for larger groups. 


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The founder of the Chantry as an institution was a man.. Emperor Drakon. Even if it was a woman, it doesn't necessitate that only women are allowed there.

 

Not to mention that Tevinter places a man as Divine. (as per Dorian)  So really.. we've got sexism coming from both of the major nations and a lot of offensive pronouns to boot.

 

Perhaps Da4 is really going to be:  "Blight of the Holy Gender Wars"


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OP doesn't go far enough. We need to change the very words that hurt women with their genderness. We dewomand change! BioWare needs to dewomanstrate sensitivity to this issue.
 
If we are to be respected in society, we must be adawomant about addressing issues of gender inequality in language. I comwomand BioWare to listen to us about this!
 
Enough womaniacal egowomania behind these words. Ending male-specific gender terms should be womandatory!


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Adawomynt
Comwomynd
Womyniacal
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And womyndatory
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I actually really appreciated being referred to as "my lady" or "Lady Cadash/Lavellan" instead of "serrah." 


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Dewomynd
Dewomynstrate
Adawomynt
Comwomynd
Womyniacal
Egowomynia
And womyndatory

 

Your way covers the fact that I might have included a word with "mon" instead of "man." Not that I would ever admit to such a thing.



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Omg Op you did something that I thought wouldn't happen for sometime after the release of the game you brought the BSN community together in the kinda ridiculous post ! lol Yay

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Man, you're silly. 


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#59
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The only one I can actually think of is "magic should not serve man, not rule over him".

****, Andraste, why is there even magic, then?
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It's "Magic should serve man, not rule over it."



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Yep, it is Tuesday...

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It's "Magic should serve man, not rule over it."

It places the lotion in the basket.
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My first inclination was to dismiss the OP as an obvious troll. Then I remembered I was on the BSN...


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Did extreme feminists write a non oppressive dictionary of English already? Because I wouldn't be surprised if EAWare was hit by a sudden realization thet they need one after seeing this thread. Desperately.


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Every point brought up by the OP is correct. Besides, it's well known that gender is a social construct. Made to oppress people by forcing them into masculine or feminine roles. Roles that damage the inner most psyche of a person. Just because I was born and look male, with having all the parts, doesn't mean I should be recognized as a man. The insensitivity of the people on these forums makes me sick.



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‘humankind’ or ‘people’ instead of ‘man’ or ‘mankind’ etc.

That's racist towards elves, dwarfs, qunari, non-human humanoid spirits, etc



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Every point brought up by the OP is correct. Besides, it's well known that gender is a social construct. Made to oppress people by forcing them into masculine or feminine roles. Roles that damage the inner most psyche of a person. Just because I was born and look male, with having all the parts, doesn't mean I should be recognized as a man. The insensitivity of the people on these forums makes me sick.

 

Irrationality of some posters makes me sick.

 

Twisting a theoretical construct into a tool of an extreme ideology. Twisting the analysis of empiric studies so they fit into that ideology.

 

There are reasons why scientific studies must be free from ideology and one of those reasons is confirmation bias.


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It was a request. I don't agree that it's necessary. But the majority of responses to it? Wow. Talk about over reacting. 


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****, Andraste, why is there even magic, then?


Haha. Good catch.

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 ‘humankind’ or ‘people’ instead of ‘man’ or ‘mankind’ 

 

what about elves, elves are people too

 

humankind is singular, you're just another psuedo-fascist

 

death to shems



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It was a request. I don't agree that it's necessary. But the majority of responses to it? Wow. Talk about over reacting. 

What did you expect? This is BSN after all...  -_-



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It was a request. I don't agree that it's necessary. But the majority of responses to it? Wow. Talk about over reacting. 

 

There is no such thing as over reacting to such stupidity. These kinds of things are just so far out idiotic it is every ones duty as a human being to say No! in the most direct and forceful manner ever because these types of people are never satisfied. Ever. They keep on picking and prodding and out right bullying to change the world in their image. They are narrow minded people and wont rest until they change things until the normal of us wont even recognize things.


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What did you expect? This is BSN after all...  -_-


To be fair, I'm not sure it would have been very well received any where else either, other than a select few sites that would be getting the pitch forks and the bonfires burning for it. Not that some of the suggestions would actually be any better, after all, they did suggest hu(man)kind, and even on the sites that might welcome such a post with open arms, that might raise some eyebrows.

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Every point brought up by the OP is correct. Besides, it's well known that gender is a social construct. Made to oppress people by forcing them into masculine or feminine roles. Roles that damage the inner most psyche of a person. Just because I was born and look male, with having all the parts, doesn't mean I should be recognized as a man. The insensitivity of the people on these forums makes me sick.

 

 

 

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well known by whom? tumblr?


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#75
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Serious genuine real talk now though.

 

No creme de la meme elfy business.

 

This is a video game. This is Thedas. This is NOT your personal tumblr or whatever. People are NOT going to use fancy gender-neutral pronouns in this setting because they're scared they might trigger someone. This is a world where demons literally FALL OUT OF THE SKY and zombie ghoul monsters with poison blood CRAWL OUT OF THE GROUND. I very much doubt the first thing going through someone's mind in Thedas is "do I refer to this person as he, she, zhe, it or they", it's probably something more along the lines of "I seriously hope I'm not stabbed to death or set on fire today". Just because you're a sensitive snowflake and your heart aches whenever a white cis male calls you by your genetic gender doesn't mean that the developers of a videogame are going to EDIT THEIR PRE-RECORDED LINES to pander to 'muh gender-neutral pronoun anti-oppression gamergate no negative reaction lyfestyle'. That costs money and recording time. They could use that money and recording time to make a DLC that actually expands on the story, or on the characters, or what have you.

 

I know that MIGHT seem a bit harsh. I know I MIGHT seem like a bit of a arse right now. I know this was a suggestion, and I know it's on the BSN so it should be expected. But, jesus christ, it's 3:30 am and this is literally the dumbest **** I've seen all day. And all yesterday too, honestly.


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