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#376
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PS nothing in this post should be construed as legal advice and no client relationship is created by reading this post

Too late. I'm already putting you on eRetainer.

 

OnLegalTopic: I'll put it this way, you'd have to be a complete idiot to use your real identification to make a "non-official" comment about an area that's closely related to your work. Making a personal disclaimer doesn't recuse someone of responsibility (or the company they work for). People have been terminated for social media commentary not even related to their job, only because it embarrassed or brought unwanted attention to their company.

I have 4 different accounts on FB alone for that reason, each for a different purpose. I'm not going to sacrifice my career because my political or personal views don't fall in step with the SJWs.

Enough of the legal/termination talk. All this undue attention doesn't sit well. This is someone's livelihood you guys are f**king with. It's not that serious.



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Too late. I'm already putting you on eRetainer.

 

OnLegalTopic: I'll put it this way, you'd have to be a complete idiot to use your real identification to make a "non-official" comment about an area that's closely related to your work. Making a personal disclaimer doesn't recuse someone of responsibility (or the company they work for). People have been terminated for social media commentary not even related to their job, only because it embarrassed or brought unwanted attention to their company.

I have 4 different accounts on FB alone for that reason, each for a different purpose. I'm not going to sacrifice my career because my political or personal views don't fall in step with the SJWs.

 

I think (correct me if im wrong Yumi), that your license only is in jeopardy if you give out legal advice and answer direct legal questions. Just saying 'I am a lawyer and this is what this law means' doesn't put you into any sort of jeopardy. 



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EULAs can be challenged and have been.  You cannot be forced to give up legal rights because of something like that.  Besides Bioware and EA have both been sued for stuff like this already.

I understand that, I'm not saying he should or shouldn't take legal action. I was only stating that if someone is considering legal action, they should make sure they are aware of any loophole or addendum. 

I also agree with the general sense of discontent over the current state of the multiplayer experience. As someone who purchased the game and purchased the multiplayer currency to support the game, I have been disappointed by the DLC and patches. What I disagree with is the reaction of some people to the recent series of events, but I have a different sense of proportion than those people, I suppose.


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True. You can INTERPRET it in any way at all. Interpretation // reality. The reality is simply that Amelia has stated she isn't representing the companies views.I've worked in customer services. There was never a chance to be informal - you obviously have to be in the building to log onto the correct systems. But if I sent an e-mail to a customer from home it would be in an entirely different context altogether. It never happened to me personally, there was no need.Because it won't be obvious she's a developer when she knows far more about whats going on then anyone else? // Sarcasm. Moreover, the reason she posts on her official account is to add a developer presence to the forums - that purpose would be entirely defeated if she was posting as an undercover developer.It's pretty clear she was informally responding to that particular sentiment. If you take informal jesting as semi-official then that's down to your interpretation.He stated it was a "non-legal gray area of impressions." By that logic, you can no more claim Amelia is officially representing Bioware than I can claim she isn't. But then, Amelia herself has out-right stated she isn't trying to represent her companies views in any way, I put more stock in that then in empty rhetoric to the contrary.I've already given you examples of other factors at play in the gaming industry, I couldn't tell you which combination led to this games poor release, nor would I claim to know.I am working with facts > like the fact Amelia doesn't get paid to post on the forums and has already stated she is in no way trying to represent the companies views.Damn it he took the red pill! You caught me. Games up. I'm secretly the leader of the gaming illuminati. I am responsible for all of gamings ills. I use my position as mail man as a front for my secret and vast global network of anti-gamers. <-- SARCASM, just incase you weren't sure.

Pffft, Illuminati is sooo 2012. It's all cuz dem space dinosaurs.
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#380
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Seems like only lawyers play this game.


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#381
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Some modded posts inc, are we about to become locked?



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Seems like only lawyers play this game.

You didn't know?

DAMP 

 

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Pffft, Illuminati is sooo 2012. It's all cuz dem space dinosaurs.


How dare. As secret mail man, I'm going to post you an offended letter one day.  :P



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How dare. As secret mail man, I'm going to post you an offended letter one day.  :P

Ha, jokes on you I'm a semi sentient toaster I can't even read! I just roll my face across the key board and vwala.
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You didn't know?
DAMP 
 
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Brilliant, sadly I'm out of likes.

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I think (correct me if im wrong Yumi), that your license only is in jeopardy if you give out legal advice and answer direct legal questions. Just saying 'I am a lawyer and this is what this law means' doesn't put you into any sort of jeopardy. 

I was speaking in general PF as it applies to anyone employed or contracted, not specifically about dispensing legal advice. I'm not a lawyer. I'm a <insert something in the software field> by trade. 



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Ha, jokes on you I'm a semi sentient toaster I can't even read! I just roll my face across the key board and vwala.

Haha, voila indeed!

 

 

Brilliant, sadly I'm out of likes.

Its alright, you can hit me tomorrow. ;)


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The reality is simply that Amelia has stated she isn't representing the companies views.

 

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Moreover, the reason she posts on her official account is to add a developer presence to the forums - that purpose would be entirely defeated if she was posting as an undercover developer.
 

 

This is just so non-nonsensical in so many levels.


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Some modded posts inc, are we about to become locked?

 

Let them lock this it will just be started again on another thread.  The best option would be to have a very public acknowledgement of their mistakes and an apology to PenguinFetish.  As for Amelia getting canned I hope that happens because that is the only way people tend to learn sadly.



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I think (correct me if im wrong Yumi), that your license only is in jeopardy if you give out legal advice and answer direct legal questions. Just saying 'I am a lawyer and this is what this law means' doesn't put you into any sort of jeopardy.


It's something along those lines, yes.

Plus Shadowz is just joking around. I think. Besides, I don't take eRetainer, just BitCoin and AppleLawPay ;)

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Ha, jokes on you I'm a semi sentient toaster I can't even read! I just roll my face across the key board and vwala.

 

I actually took that seriously for a moment because I've met someone who genuinely thought they were a dragon. Gotta love the internet. 



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Haha, voila indeed!
 
 



Its alright, you can hit me tomorrow. ;)

See, he gets it lol. :)

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I actually took that seriously for a moment because I've met someone who genuinely thought they were a dragon. Gotta love the internet. 

 

You met Hawke?

 

6sK.jpg


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I understand that, I'm not saying he should or shouldn't take legal action. I was only stating that if someone is considering legal action, they should make sure they are aware of any loophole or addendum. 
I also agree with the general sense of discontent over the current state of the multiplayer experience. As someone who purchased the game and purchased the multiplayer currency to support the game, I have been disappointed by the DLC and patches. What I disagree with is the reaction of some people to the recent series of events, but I have a different sense of proportion than those people, I suppose.


I ain't gonna sue but if I got a letter saying I qualify for a partial payout I wouldn't hesitate to sign it unless it completely absolved them of all wrongdoing of course

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It's something along those lines, yes.

Plus Shadowz is just joking around. I think. Besides, I don't take eRetainer, just BitCoin and AppleLawPay ;)

Lol yeah. Sorry bout the confusion. I meant the upper portion of that comment to you. That latter part of the comment was directed at the readers.



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You met Hawke?
 
6sK.jpg

OMG! Look at his eyes. He is obviously dead inside. Inquisition and Bioware killed Hawk lol.

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I ain't gonna sue but if I got a letter saying I qualify for a partial payout I wouldn't hesitate to sign it unless it completely absolved them of all wrongdoing of course

I've actually had that happen to me, something about 24 Hour Fitness misrepresenting charges or some such. It was for part of the settlement amount, but it absolved them of future legal actions regarding that incident. Sadly the amount was something along the lines of $5 USD. :P



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True. You can INTERPRET it in any way at all. Interpretation // reality. The reality is simply that Amelia has stated she isn't representing the companies views.


I've worked in customer services. There was never a chance to be informal - you obviously have to be in the building to log onto the correct systems. But if I sent an e-mail to a customer from home it would be in an entirely different context altogether. It never happened to me personally, there was no need.


Because it won't be obvious she's a developer when she knows far more about whats going on then anyone else? // Sarcasm. Moreover, the reason she posts on her official account is to add a developer presence to the forums - that purpose would be entirely defeated if she was posting as an undercover developer.


It's pretty clear she was informally responding to that particular sentiment. If you take informal jesting as semi-official then that's down to your interpretation.


He stated it was a "non-legal gray area of impressions." By that logic, you can no more claim Amelia is officially representing Bioware than I can claim she isn't. But then, Amelia herself has out-right stated she isn't trying to represent her companies views in any way, I put more stock in that then in empty rhetoric to the contrary.

I've already given you examples of other factors at play in the gaming industry, I couldn't tell you which combination led to this games poor release, nor would I claim to know.


I am working with facts > like the fact Amelia doesn't get paid to post on the forums and has already stated she is in no way trying to represent the companies views.

Damn it he took the red pill! You caught me. Games up. I'm secretly the leader of the gaming illuminati. I am responsible for all of gamings ills. I use my position as mail man as a front for my secret and vast global network of anti-gamers. <-- SARCASM, just incase you weren't sure.

You're correct about interpretation =/= reality. Fact remains, people DO interpret things the way they want. I'm not aguing for this, just saying that it exists.

Reread your posts, count how many times you make reference to "looking back at her post history", or to "when she said she's not official" (paraphrasing). Honestly, who researches someone's post history?? Not everyone lives on these forums.

Unless there's a disclaimer attached to every post, people are going to interpret a BW employee with a BW tag as at least semi official.


I have no idea where you're going with the email thing...it's not the same as being in uniform and being conscious of having your every move and word analyzed.


The rest...ughhh, this'll never end. I guess you win!? And here you got me going on and on about one particular detail like I really care about the whole posting thing, when I actually don't.

What I do care about is just another case of a game with great potential getting messed up because of seeming unwillingness on the part of the developer to communicate with the users.

They'll gladly accept our free suggestions, but when it comes to the whole "Hey! Your game has problems X, Y and Z, which are really messing up the ability to enjoy the experience, and this needs to be fixed ASAP," the relationship completely falls apart.


Last thing, that whole "you being the gaming illuminati" thing.....giving yourself waaaay to much credit lol.

What's Amdraste's teet milk taste like?

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I've actually had that happen to me, something about 24 Hour Fitness misrepresenting charges or some such. It was for part of the settlement amount, but it absolved them of future legal actions regarding that incident. Sadly the amount was something along the lines of $5 USD. :P


I've been a recipient of 5
I guess it's on me at this point for trusting people

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I've been a recipient of 5
I guess it's on me at this point for trusting people

Nah, it's on the @$$ hats that take advantage of people. People are basically good so, as a result we tend to be trusting of other people... or I'm just naive. :)