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[Armali]

Personally, I abhor it. It makes no sense for someone who's a Tevinter to even fancy a Qunari. I would have found it far more interesting if Dorian absolutely despised Iron Bull similar in a way in how Vivienne really dislikes Cole.

 

I also can't help but feel that this was put in there because he is a gay character and he's supposed to represent one of those kinds of people (the actual words escape me right now, I'm mainly relying on a feeling to convey my thoughts).

 

It just feels wrong to me and doesn't make kind of sense. I can't even see Dorian with a non-human, really.

[katerinafm]

Well considering you can romance Dorian with a qunari, I don't really see there being an issue with Iron Bull being a qunari specifically. Listening to their banter shows their dynamic. Dorian does start really cautious and hostile towards Iron Bull.They disagree on a lot of things but also find common ground as well (I'd imagine even more if Iron Bull becomes Tal-Vasoth).

[crimzontearz]

You should focus on Bull being a very bad Dom ( he is really a switch as evidenced by his conversations with Vivienne) and utterly disrespectful of Dorian's privacy in a way also that suggests he is not above taking advantage of him when drunk.

Bull's race and background are unimportant.


Also the word you are looking for is promiscuous

[vertigomez]

I can't even see Dorian with a non-human, really.

Well... Dorian can clearly see himself with a non-human, so that's a bit irrelevant.

[Hellion Rex]

For the love of God, let's not start this *expletive* again. Take it to the other damn thread.

[Hellion Rex]

Personally, I abhor it. It makes no sense for someone who's a Tevinter to even fancy a Qunari.

..........Since when has love or sexual attraction ever truly made rational sense lol

[LadyofClockwork7]

Ehh, I would've preferred Dorian to hook up with Cullen.

[CrimsonN7]

For the love of God, let's not start this *expletive* again. Take it to the other damn thread.

 

That thread sure did go places and it was a long read. Some interesting posts, I think it got locked eventually though.

 

As for the IB/Dorian romance, haven't got it in game myself, only read people's thoughts on it here. I have no strong feelings one way or the other about it as I would rather experience it myself in game first. Goin true neutral here. Attempting to get them together finally in this run, for curiosities sake.

[Hellion Rex]

I personally don't mind the romance at all. I think people read way, way, way too much into a few snippets of dialogue regarding their relationship.

 

 

Secondly, for all that people are blasting Bull as a bad dom, do we even know for an absolute fact that Dorian and Iron Bull are even doing the same type of thing that the Inquisitor and Bull do?

[Mewlss]

I noticed how disrespectful Iron Bull is to Dorian during their relationship. It just irritates me how if the Iron Bull is romancing the Inqui. he keeps it low-key until the Inqui. says otherwise, but in the relationship between Bull and Dorian, Bull doesn't give a damn about what Dorian wants. He yaps about their relations publicly even though Dorian clearly finds it uncomfortable. Dorian wants a real relationship even if he doesn't show it, and Bull isn't giving that to him, he's only making it something sexual until further into the game. Someone could also argue that Bull is trying to make Dorian more comfortable with a public relationship with another man, but that doesn't mean Bull has to be so disrespectful with it. He doesn't consent with Dorian before speaking about their private affairs. 

 

I just don't think Bull and Dorian are a good match. And I know this is just a game, but imagining how this would play out in a real life situation makes me sick. :/ 

 

Time to contradict myself: I am however happy with how it pans out towards the end though, Dorian seems happy with the Iron Bull then. So maybe it was just a dalliance in the beginning but it bloomed into something more, something stronger. Strong enough to make Dorian want to stay. 

[Ryzaki]

yay this thread again.

 

Can't you go to the Dorian thread about it?

 

Also Dorian's as rude to Bull as Bull is to him but Dorian's a magical angel who can do no wrong right?

 

He's the one who starts whining about having a qunari following them ignoring he's a mage from Tevinter calling him beast and savage like it's cute. God I wanted a STFU Dorian choice there.

[Mewlss]

Also Dorian's as rude to Bull as Bull is to him but Dorian's a magical angel who can do no wrong right?

 

He's the one who starts whining about having a qunari following them ignoring he's a mage from Tevinter calling him beast and savage like it's cute. God I wanted a STFU Dorian choice there.

You're right. He is disrespectful to Bull first, but as I recall he wasn't during their relationship. Just outside of it. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

[Vita Brevis]

He's the one who starts whining about having a qunari following them

Wat. You're not talking about that one time when he asked if the Bull would prefer him bound do you. Cause if you are, it's ridiculous.

[Sui Causa]

If you don't consider consistantly denying your lover, publicly treating him like a dirty one night stand that you don't want to talk about in the light of day, and basically the fact the he uses Bull like a sex toy that he hides under his bed as disrespectful, then no. Dorian is great to Iron Bull.

 

c_c Interpretation goes both ways.

 

Take their relationship at face value as it was intended. Bull says that Dorian is a sweet guy and he really hopes they are good for each other, that their relationship is a great way for them to get over their differences etc. Dorian is taking a walk on the wild side and is dealing with the fact that he really likes it in a very in-character Dorian type of way.

 

Stop reading into it and projecting your own crap and lack of understanding onto two video game characters that do not deserve it.

 

(This really belongs in the Dorian thread, bashing Iron Bull comes up constantly so there's plenty of opportunities there.)

[Rabbitonfire]

Ehh, I would've preferred Dorian to hook up with Cullen.

I've seen the fanarts of the pairing. I approve of this pairing.

[Hellion Rex]

I vote we nuke the thread, and all move on with our lives, cause it's gonna get ugly, and I'm really not in the arguing mood tonight.

[Ryzaki]

You're right. He is disrespectful to Bull first, but as I recall he wasn't during their relationship. Just outside of it. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

 

And I don't see Bull as being disrespectful to Dorian inside the relationship. So *shrug*

 

Unless we're counting being open about the relationship as disrespectful. In which case Dorian himself is guilty of that with the Inquistor with the whole offering to draw diagrams and whatnot.

[Ryzaki]

Wat. You're not talking about that one time when he asked if the Bull would prefer him bound do you. Cause if you are, it's ridiculous.

 

No. I'm talking about that "No one has anything to say about the Qunari traveling with us?" whine.

[Catwall]

Dorian: If you choose to leave your door unlocked like a savage, I may or may not come.

 

Ouch. Poor Dorian, being forced to walk into Iron Bull's room and then forced to have an unhealthy seemingly sex-only relationship with him. Utterly powerless over his own body, and armed with no tools of self-defense at all against the big bad brute Qunari. I am sickened, I tell you!

[Ryzaki]

Dorian: If you choose to leave your door unlocked like a savage, I may or may not come.

 

Ouch. Poor Dorian, being forced to walk into Iron Bull's room and then forced to have an unhealthy seemingly sex-only relationship with him. Utterly powerless over his own body, and armed with no tools of self-defense at all against the big bad brute Qunari. I am sickened, I tell you!

 

Shocked and dismayed! How dare Bull give Dorian the choice to sleep with him. HOW DARE HE?

 

I wish I had the lolerskates emote.

[Hellion Rex]

Later, y'all. I'm just gonna step on out, cause all this negativity isn't healthy for me at all.

[Catwall]

Shocked and dismayed! How dare Bull give Dorian the choice to sleep with him. HOW DARE HE?

 

I wish I had the lolerskates emote.

Honestly, it disgusts me to the core to vividly imagine this refined, sensitive mage-flower engaging in consensual sex with a barbarian ox-man. It's so disgusting, I'm off to read fan-fiction about it. Purely for research, of course.

[Vita Brevis]

No. I'm talking about that "No one has anything to say about the Qunari traveling with us?" whine.

Haven't heard that one and without the whole picture it still sounds ridiculous to seriously consider this an insult or whatever. 

[Ryzaki]

Honestly, it disgusts me to the core to vividly imagine this refined, sensitive mage-flower engaging in consensual sex with a barbarian ox-man. It's so disgusting, I'm off to read fan-fiction about it. Purely for research, of course.

 

XD Don't forget about the pictures!

 

Haven't heard that one and without the whole picture it still sounds ridiculous to seriously consider this an insult or whatever. 

 

That's not the insult. It's simply an annoying whine that shows a serious lack of self awareness. The insults are when he starts calling Bull savage and brute. (which Bull responds in kind too. But since people are acting like it's the height of abuse I'll exaggerate too).

[Vita Brevis]

That's not the insult. It's simply an annoying whine that shows a serious lack of self awareness. The insults are when he starts calling Bull savage and brute.

Just like I've said. Ridiculous argument.