Because it's the Inquisitor (who first of all is Tal Vasoth and second has the power to influence nations at his/her fingertips). The Inquisitor isn't show off loud bawdy mercenary who worked in the Ben Hassrath.
They aren't the same people.
(Which is why no duh they treat each other differently in a romance. )
The only one I know of, who'd be most likely offended by the whole "opposites attract" going to Iron Bull would be this guy:
My male Lavellan is a tad possessive.
The only one I know of, who'd be most likely offended by the whole "opposites attract" going to Iron Bull would be this guy:
My male Lavellan is a tad possessive.
he kinda looks possessive lol
He looks like he's mean mugging me through the computer screen.
Dude you really think he's happy when he acts this differently?
Yes.
People act differently in different relationships. Bull isn't a walking ego booster telling Dorian everything he wants to hear like the Inquisitor is. So yes he's more tentative in the relationship. It's slower moving.
You give me the reason you think Bull is abusive to Dorian, Cole ignores this and Dorian puts up with it. Without resulting to pretzel bending.
Great, so...Bull's now a rapist? *shakes her head*
Okay, well, people are reading way too much into this game, because apparently, everyone's a freaking rapist (or will be called one by someone eventually/have it implied that what they did could be considered rape) for one insane reason or another. Dorian may have been drunk at the time, but he clearly wasn't comatose or impaired to the point of losing control of his mental faculties. There's a difference between having your inhibitions lowered somewhat (and maybe making a bad decision) if you've had a lot to drink versus being an unwilling victim who is intentionally drugged/made drunk to the point of passing out by some creep whose goal actually is to rape someone.
When people claim loss of control and inability to consent, that usually seems to involve being so drunk that you've passed the hell out - probably from either imbibing a huge amount of alcohol or from actually being drugged by some would-be rapist as stated above (yes, I feel a need to reiterate the point already). These are two guys who drink fairly regularly, and they seem mostly capable of holding their liquor.
Now Dorian might not have used the best judgment while under some level of influence from the alcohol, but if he had really hated the experience or truly regretted it, he wouldn't have entered into a relationship with Bull. And it's perfectly valid to bring up Cole, because Cole knows everything that goes on with everyone - and if anyone were truly unhappy or hurting for whatever reason (like being in a hypothetically abusive relationship), then I am quite sure that Captain Compassion would have brought it up.
Maybe they have a Moonlighting-style relationship a la David and Maddie (if anyone younger than I am is actually familiar with that show) where they semi-hated each other but were also attracted to each other and ended up hooking up eventually. Sure, the Bull-Dorian relationship might have a more teasing/antagonistic/whatever aspects to it, but that doesn't make it abusive, and I'm pretty sure that Bull isn't suddenly a rapist just because their dialogue might be on the prickly side, as opposed to being all sappy, lovey-dovey crap. Maybe their thing is just sarcasm/snark/whatever - sheesh.
This is what I should have stuck to instead of getting involved by pointing out something that was inaccurate.
May the Husbando wars continue.
Pretty much this and pointed out something different.This is what I should have stuck to instead of getting involved by pointing out something that was inaccurate.
May the Husbando wars continue.
This is what I should have stuck to instead of getting involved by pointing out something that was inaccurate.
May the Husbando wars continue.
Instead of pretzel bending? Yeah.
He does admit that he's happy. You just seemed to think that meant I said he was boasting (which I did not considering the reason I dislike Dorian is he acts like Bull's something to be ashamed of admitting to).
I'm disappointed at myself. Should have known how this thread would turn out.
This is coming from the same guy that said the romance in Twlight was well done, and I pointed out in page 3 it's nothing but an abusive relationship.
Really? Are you somehow unaware that calling a work of fiction "well done" could pertain to things like pacing, use of symbolism, etc, and not pertain to, much less even endorse, the intellectual content itself? Furthermore, Gaider himself clarified his position a long time ago here. At least keep up to date with your "sources" if you're going to invoke them in an argument. 
Ehh, I would've preferred Dorian to hook up with Cullen.
Yeah, this.
I wish we'd see more gay pairings between conventionally attractive straight acting men of the same species.
Really? Are you somehow unaware that calling a work of fiction "well done" could pertain to things like pacing, use of symbolism, etc, and not pertain to, much less even endorse, the intellectual content itself? Furthermore, Gaider himself clarified his position a long time ago here. At least keep up to date with your "sources" if you're going to invoke them in an argument.
Oh thank you! I remembered that but couldn't find the source to save my life.
I'm just gonna leave this here:
http://sonnidesoto.b...72fbae1eb209fa8
(I don't have an issue with the Dorian and Bull romance. This person has an interesting take on the entire thing)
Yeah, this.
I wish we'd see more gay pairings between conventionally attractive straight acting men of the same species.
Yeah, this.
I wish we'd see more gay pairings between conventionally attractive straight acting men of the same species.
Somehow I'm way more okay with people just being racist and saying thats why they don't like the pairing, as did the OP, then I do people trying to accuse in game characters of rape, abuse, manipulation, and other such horrible things.
At least then it falls down to just plain old personal preference, and less I am morally superior because I respect freedom and peoples rights and don't like abuse, and anyone who disagrees is clearly supporting abuse.
I personally think Iron Bull shouldn't be so interested in redheads, because they clearly don't have souls and can't be trusted. 
That and my hair can't take red dye worth **** and I could never fufill this fantasy.
Yeah, this.
I wish we'd see more gay pairings between conventionally attractive straight acting men of the same species.
Umm why? Or is this sarcastic? ^^;
This thread ate all my likes.
Curse you all.
Somehow I'm way more okay with people just being racist and saying thats why they don't like the pairing, as did the OP, then I do people trying to accuse in game characters of rape, abuse, manipulation, and other such horrible things.
At least then it falls down to just plain old personal preference, and less I am morally superior because I respect freedom and peoples rights and don't like abuse, and anyone who disagrees is clearly supporting abuse.
I personally think Iron Bull shouldn't be so interested in redheads, because they clearly don't have souls and can't be trusted.
This.
DIsagreed on the racism bit. If it's just an aesthetic thing whatever. That's just preference. If you rather your husbando be with just you? That's fine too. Just don't pretzel bend.
Meanwhile, there haven't even been F/F among the companions, yet.
Oh, and "straight acting."
Garrus/Tali.
Isabella/Fenris.
Blackwall/Josephine.
Iron Bull/Dorian.
As if Dorian and Bull aren't masculine guys, right? Bull is about as 'straight acting' as you can get and there are countless broken lady hearts strewn about Thedas from female PCs whose players thought that the flirting with Dorian would lead somewhere.
I totally support a f/f companion romance situation. None of the options really would have worked so far, in my opinion. Liara and Samantha? Isabela and Merrill? Josephine and Sera? I just can't see any of them. Maybe Samara and Samantha could have worked? I'm holding out hope that in DA 4 we get a lesbian warrior (there hasn't been a single f/f warrior to date) and, if you don't romance her, she ends up with another lady in the party. That would be nice to see.
ETA: I forgot about Kelly and Diana (damn, there were six - including Morinth - ladies who liked ladies in the ME series?). Okay, I take back what I said. I'm sure that there could have been a combination that would have made sense.
It's all fun and games until the meaning of the phrase "riding the Iron Bull" sinks in... 
It's all fun and games until the meaning of the phrase "riding the Iron Bull" sinks in...
Then it's just hot.
Grab him by all the horns and hold on.
...
I don't hate or dislike bisexual people. I just feel insecure in those types of relationships, so I don't seek them out, or enter into them if I know ahead of time. Now if I had been in a long term relationship and it was sprung on me by my significant other that he considered himself bi, i'd be displeased he was telling me so late in the relationship and question why now, but I would not stop the relationship unless he cheated or said he wasn't happy.
As long as you understand that your aversion to bisexuals is 100% due to your own insecurities, and has nothing to do with bisexuals themselves. Like another poster said, by all means don't date bisexuals. We don't want you if you have that attitude. But don't pretend that your aversion is rational. And recognize that the reason a guy might wait a while before revealing he's bisexual is because so many people have bizarre aversions to bisexuals like you do.
Also, to say that you couldn't satisfy a bisexual because you're only one gender is to implicitly say that you could in fact completely satisfy a straight guy. I assure you, in no human (or elven, or dwarven, or even qunari) relationship in the history of this world or Thedas has anyone completely satisfied their partners. Relationships are all imperfect and require compromise, monogamy isn't necessarily essential for everyone, and acting on a sexual attraction isn't essential for everyone either.
I hope this didn't come off as hostile. I don't want to insult you, but I think your aversion to bisexuals can't be called anything but biphobia, and I wanted to explain why. Long term social change towards acceptance of bisexuality is simply more important to me than anyone's feelings ever could be.
As long as you understand that your aversion to bisexuals is 100% due to your own insecurities, and has nothing to do with bisexuals themselves. Like another poster said, by all means don't date bisexuals. We don't want you if you have that attitude. But don't pretend that your aversion is rational. And recognize that the reason a guy might wait a while before revealing he's bisexual is because so many people have bizarre aversions to bisexuals like you do.
Also, to say that you couldn't satisfy a bisexual because you're only one gender is to implicitly say that you could in fact completely satisfy a straight guy. I assure you, in no human (or elven, or dwarven, or even qunari) relationship in the history of this world or Thedas has anyone completely satisfied their partners. Relationships are all imperfect and require compromise, monogamy isn't necessarily essential for everyone, and acting on a sexual attraction isn't essential for everyone either.
I hope this didn't come off as hostile. I don't want to insult you, but I think your aversion to bisexuals can't be called anything but biphobia, and I wanted to explain why. Long term social change towards acceptance of bisexuality is simply more important to me than anyone's feelings ever could be.
As long as you understand that your aversion to bisexuals is 100% due to your own insecurities, and has nothing to do with bisexuals themselves. Like another poster said, by all means don't date bisexuals. We don't want you if you have that attitude. But don't pretend that your aversion is rational. And recognize that the reason a guy might wait a while before revealing he's bisexual is because so many people have bizarre aversions to bisexuals like you do.
Also, to say that you couldn't satisfy a bisexual because you're only one gender is to implicitly say that you could in fact completely satisfy a straight guy. I assure you, in no human (or elven, or dwarven, or even qunari) relationship in the history of this world or Thedas has anyone completely satisfied their partners. Relationships are all imperfect and require compromise, monogamy isn't necessarily essential for everyone, and acting on a sexual attraction isn't essential for everyone either.
I hope this didn't come off as hostile. I don't want to insult you, but I think your aversion to bisexuals can't be called anything but biphobia, and I wanted to explain why. Long term social change towards acceptance of bisexuality is simply more important to me than anyone's feelings ever could be.
Personally, I abhor it. It makes no sense for someone who's a Tevinter to even fancy a Qunari. I would have found it far more interesting if Dorian absolutely despised Iron Bull similar in a way in how Vivienne really dislikes Cole.
I also can't help but feel that this was put in there because he is a gay character and he's supposed to represent one of those kinds of people (the actual words escape me right now, I'm mainly relying on a feeling to convey my thoughts).
It just feels wrong to me and doesn't make kind of sense. I can't even see Dorian with a non-human, really.
This nonsensical pairing also bothers me. Dorian has lived in a nation where the Qunari are the enemy. It would be only natural for him to antagonize with them.
In the beginning, Dorian does show some hostility toward Bull. But since Bull has such a laid back attitude, he eventually manages to convince the mage he's not a fanatical, just a guy like any other.
The only reasons I can think of why Dorian would pair up with him are:
If we had a third gay male in the party and a human at that, Dorian would no doubt go for him first.
Then it's just hot.
Grab him by all the horns and hold on.
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I'm out of likes for the day, but that would be quite the adventure 
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