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[Teshayel]

@ Ceru

 

You are doing really well, however there is one drawing trick that you might want to keep in mind. Artists use well defined lines in cartooning, whereas realistic drawing relies mostly on shading. You will rarely see any hard edges in realistic drawings. Since you are starting to shade, you might want to keep the outlines of your portraits very light. Let the shading define the jawline, rather than a single line, for instance.

 

Also, blending. Avoid blending with your fingers, as it will create a smudge effect. If you want smooth, soft blending with pencils, use a paper towel for large areas, and blending sticks for details. all you need to do is wipe across the drawing in gentle, circular motions with the paper towel. However, this means that you will have to rehash the same area multiple times. Also, you might want to keep a paper towel beneath your hand while shading to avoid transferring any oil from your hands onto the drawing. 

 

I don't have the drawings that I did with the blending technique I mentioned to show you, so you'd get an idea of what I am talking about, however, the portrait below I did a loooong while ago is a fairly good illustration of plane-shading (i.e. the direction of the pencil strokes follows the plane of the face). Notice how you can still recognize the basic construction for the nose and eyes. You can even see the guiding line I used to define the axis of the face. 

 

I am not familiar with Loomis' techniques, but division of your subject into planes and shading according to the direction of those planes is a basic technique taught in art classes. Let me know if you have any questions

 

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[Teshayel]

Worked a bit more on Cullen's portrait Decided to add some armour. I added the base for the stubble. Next will be detailing I might actually manage to finish this on time for the 5000 pg celebration

 

[ajramsey]

wow so much awesome stuff on here! Loving all the cullen art and how helpful everyone is! I hope I can be on here more often! haha

but here's my addition to the pot. I posted this in the cullen forum, but Ill post it on here too. Its slighting nsfw.

 

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Im hoping to have another picture this week, but we will see how slammed i get with school work. 

[Morlanwen]

I'm not ashamed no no !! (ok, I 'm completly ashamed, to see what some of you  draw .. and it's beautiful and .. and, I swear, i have two left hands, and and ..well )
Since the tablet is not for this month (if someone wants to offer me one, it would be nice ))...

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I have the feeling of being a 5yo girl back from school and showing my mom the "wunderfulll" drawing i made for her ^^

[Teshayel]

@ Morlanwen

 

You got the outline down pat Can't wait to see more You might find it easier to add in the features if you lightly draw some guidelines for the axis of the face, eyes, nose and mouth in 3/4 view.

[Teshayel]

@ aj

 

That is an excellent line drawing Are you going to colour it?

[Cerulione]

@ajramsey: Wow, just wow. I really love how you do the lines!

 

@Morlanwen: please keep us updated , and the thing is that it'll be easier with pencil & paper than tablet, I "steal" my bf's tablet and it's much harder.

I get the impression that the head shape & face proportion's already good, keep it up

 

@Tesh: Wow. Just wow.

 

 

Another Cullen... I might try to colour this one later on just for fun. And I have very unhealthy obsessions to facial scar... on Cullen. Is it sexier to get the extra scar on current's position or at the other cheek as the extension of his lip scar?

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[ajramsey]

@ aj

 

That is an excellent line drawing Are you going to colour it?

thanks!

Yeah i plan on coloring it. But I have nooo idea what to do for the background or mood coloring. x.x

 

 

@Cerulione

I love that picture, he looks like hes concentrating on something very hard but its making me think its something mischievous because of the small smirk.

[Cerulione]

@aj: Thanks, it was based on one of MelissaGT's Flycam Shot. He was smirking at that moment, just before entering the quizzy's room at the epilogue.

About the colour, well, maybe depend on the mood of the two person?

 

Okay, a question: which one from these two options do you prefer?

 

A: Extra Scar as the extension of his lip scar

 

B: Extra scar at the other cheek

[ajramsey]

@ ceru  I like the scar on the cheek better.

[Morlanwen]

Cerulione: B is far better

[Cerulione]

Okay thanks! I really can't decide.

 

I think I like the one with the cheek scar on the other side (the second one) - balances the composition out a bit more.  

 

 

@ Ceru

 

Also, blending. Avoid blending with your fingers, as it will create a smudge effect. If you want smooth, soft blending with pencils, use a paper towel for large areas, and blending sticks for details. all you need to do is wipe across the drawing in gentle, circular motions with the paper towel. However, this means that you will have to rehash the same area multiple times. Also, you might want to keep a paper towel beneath your hand while shading to avoid transferring any oil from your hands onto the drawing. 

 

I don't have the drawings that I did with the blending technique I mentioned to show you, so you'd get an idea of what I am talking about, however, the portrait below I did a loooong while ago is a fairly good illustration of plane-shading (i.e. the direction of the pencil strokes follows the plane of the face). Notice how you can still recognize the basic construction for the nose and eyes. You can even see the guiding line I used to define the axis of the face. 

 

I am not familiar with Loomis' techniques, but division of your subject into planes and shading according to the direction of those planes is a basic technique taught in art classes. Let me know if you have any questions

 

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Actually, why is smudge effect bad? I did the blending with hand because umm... that was the most intuitive thing

Okaay gotta try with paper towel. Say, does cotton buds work too?

 

I'm not ashamed no no !! (ok, I 'm completly ashamed, to see what some of you  draw .. and it's beautiful and .. and, I swear, i have two left hands, and and ..well )
Since the tablet is not for this month (if someone wants to offer me one, it would be nice ))...

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I have the feeling of being a 5yo girl back from school and showing my mom the "wunderfulll" drawing i made for her ^^

 

How is you Morrigan drawing going?

[Morlanwen]

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How is you Morrigan drawing going?

Since drawing with a mouse is hard (seriously, I can't add a little tiny line or make a eye... I really need a tablet, but it'll have to wait until money came back )
For now, Paintshop is far more easy for me than pen&paper :/... I don't even know how to add shadowing and colour (the fact is I only have one pencil .. that doesn't help I know ^^)... I still can't do noses with one black pencil :/

 

arf, I complain a lot right ? I promise, I'll stop now ^^

 

purée, mais quand même, j'aime bien râler, ça fait du bien, ça déstresse

[Cerulione]

Noses...

 

Hmmm if you really want to buy a tablet c'est maintenant la solde, il y a beaucoup des promo ce mois ci c'est pas mal

 

Mais on s'en fou, c'est bien raler... Mieux raler que d'être déprimé(e) hein. Mouahahahahahahaha

[Morlanwen]

serioulsly, you are expecting me to draw like this? but it is not even possible for me !!! not yet , not next week, or next month (ok, maybe ten years from now, maybe ) I will be happy if it is "not that bad" ... I had never drawn in my whole life, so it is a first for me (well, i drew my tattoos to show the tatto artist, but it is not a real drawing)
 
My differents tests for eyes/noses/mouths:

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My "not real drawing":

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I may not be good, but it is fun, so I might continue

[Teshayel]

@ Ceru

 

I like option B better

 

As for smudging with fingers being bad... It is related to the oil that is naturally secreted by human skin and graphite. It will generally create a dirty effect, rather than help with blending. That is why it is better to blend with something dry (like paper towels). I haven't used cotton on large surfaces, but I do use cue tips for blending details. It might work on larger surfaces as well

 

You can see that even in Proko's videos, he gets the blending done mostly by varying the pencil strokes, and uses his finger to blend only sparingly.

 

Charcoal is a different matter - and the more porous the charcoal, the more likely it is that you can use your fingers for blending. But even there, you have to be careful, otherwise it will end up looking splotchy

 

Can't wait to see the colour version of your new Cullen portrait

[Teshayel]

@ aj

 

Depends on whether you intend to preserve the line art or not. If you do, then a simple background will be enough. Basically, just a colour that would help the characters in the foreground pop

 

@ Morlanwen

 

Those doodles you did of eyes, nose, and mouth look really good I think you give yourself too little credit

[Caja]

@ Ceru

 

I like option B better

 

As for smudging with fingers being bad... It is related to the oil that is naturally secreted by human skin and graphite. It will generally create a dirty effect, rather than help with blending. That is why it is better to blend with something dry (like paper towels). I haven't used cotton on large surfaces, but I do use cue tips for blending details. It might work on larger surfaces as well

Thanks for this explanation. A friend of mine, who took art classes, once told me to do the blending with my finger to create smoother shadows. Obviously she was right about the shadow effect but not about the part where you use your finger. I always did it wrong and never knew. I feel enlightened now. The reason makes perfect sense, too.

[ajramsey]

@Tesh yeah im keeping line art, dont have the time to actually paint

 

 

 

 

 

 

in response with smudging, I have been told multiple times by professors not to do it. To use hatching and cross hatching instead. smudging can flatten a picture and cause it to be dirty.There was a girl in my figure drawing class who was amazing at it (she was da vinci good) , her hatches were so perfect it had and effect of smoothness but also it held texture which made her art more realistic instead of flattening it. Texture is a good thing, in real life our skin is textured, not smooth, same with hair and clothing. use light strokes and build on top of that. Here is a portrait I did in mechanical pencil with a 6b pencil for darker shadows. All hatching and cross hatching no smudging.

 

I dont even smudge anything digital, i color pic

 

there are some videos on youtube, its a cool technique

[Shantia]

Wow so much talent in here, keep up the great work!

 

@Tesh WOW, it's looking so great!!

 

@Ceru great work, it is really visible that you are improving, and fast aswell

 

@aj great lineart, can't wait to see when you start coloring it.

 

@Morlanwen love your eyes,nose and lips tests, they look awesome!

 

Sorry if I forgot someone.

 

And my own addition, finally started my Solas painting today but urgh it's progressing so slow, Hoping to use this for the february valentine theme, hopefully I'll finish it in time.

[Teshayel]

@ aj

 

OooOooo Love the portrait The shading is done really well

 

@ Shantia

 

Yep, I recognize that nose. That's Solas' alright Can't wait to see more

[Cerulione]

A question: why are people adding those "dot" colour panel at the side? Are they the colour used on the particular mask?

[Shantia]

A question: why are people adding those "dot" colour panel at the side? Are they the colour used on the particular mask?

 

They are our colour palette

[Cerulione]

@Shantia: thanks!

 

A question for all of you who do Digital: how to get clean outline? I'm doing a cartoony style & I'd love to get a clean outline but it's kind of impossible with scanned sketch from pencil drawings. Should I ink them first?

 

Also, how do you actually proceed? I was doing steps like shown in several tutorials (scan, flat colours all surface, render). Should I try to "redraw" everything in digital to get clean lines or I can directly colour the pencil sketch? Should each area (hair, skin) be coloured & rendered until finished before starting to colour other part?

 

Thanks!

[Shantia]

@Ceru I'm not an expert, but I would probably make a new layer and trace the sketch to get a clean lineart. Wait, is the sketch coloured already? Or are you gonna color it in photo program?