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[dlux]

And I think DA:I is the worst game Bioware has ever made.

[Enclave777]

DAI is a good game but it stops there. It isnot the best

What defines a game as "best" anyhow? To one person the game may be the best game they ever played, while to another it may be alright at best. It's like asking; "what is the best music?".
In the end it all comes down to individual taste and opinion.
Although I think that generally people can agree that this game is "good".

[Frenrihr]

The EA inititative at its finest. 

 

 

[Emu8207]

I agree, definitely the best bioware game since Origins. Way better then ME2, DAII and ME3. DAI has it's issues but they don't detract from the game.

[arafinwe_ingalaure]

The OP is probably some BW/EA employee's sister.

 

Seriosully I'm glad you enjoyed the game. I did too. But it would (and should've) been much better. I reinstalled it for Patch 3, only to realize the only thing that got "fixed" was a walking toggle. LOL

 

Tac Cam is still worthless, the AI is still a joke ( Viv standing in front of a dragon to get clawed to death despite me moving her 4 times), no auto-attack, no rogue abilities (I can't even pick a pocket, man this game killed the rogue class), and the 8 bar slot limit is STILL there.

So I uninstalled it again. Waiting for Patch 4 or a DLC.

Saddly I don't have any siblings.  I know the PC version is broken, that's why I play it on PS4 look

 

 

Troll, troll, troll your post, gently down the screeeeeeen.....

 

Obvious flamebaiting aside, I would like to mention that overall I feel like the direction was the right one, from DA2.  It wasn't executed well, and "executed" would be the term I'd apply to what management wound up doing to the final product.  It's plainly all there, though.  That's what's maddening.  The crafting system is begging for more visual variety and control over the final look.  Skyhold's customization.  The huge zones.  All the groundwork was there - and then it was eviscerated To Control Costs and Increase Shareholder Value.

 

But i DO NOT feel nostalgic about DA2's "yes, you're back at this coastline map again" sidequests to the same damn place.  Or re-use of the same 3 corridors for every damn mission everywhere.  Or a world map consisting only of There and Back Again.  It felt even more pre-determined and powerless than DA:I does - the infamous Dead Mom mission comes to mind - and just being able to go out somewhere in the DA:I world and f&^% around for a while is a huge plus for me.

 

It's got a long way to go before I'd be spending any cash on DLC, but the potential is there.  The flaws, unfortunately, are highlighted by that potential.  The bugs and broken bits are something EA is desperately trying to train us all to expect and accept, and they're frustrated and annoyed by how it's just not working and we keep insisting on being treated as paying customers who paid full price for a product, and not "fans" that eat up anything they throw out at us.

 

There's still hope, and I firmly believe DA:I is a step in the right direction.  But it's just the first step.

 

I'm not saying DA:I is perfect, sure the game has more original stuff then in DA 2, less reusing .  But many things were wrong in DA2.

 

What defines a game as "best" anyhow? To one person the game may be the best game they ever played, while to another it may be alright at best. It's like asking; "what is the best music?".
In the end it all comes down to individual taste and opinion.
Although I think that generally people can agree that this game is "good".

You are right, it's something personal.  We live in democracy and every body can have a different opinion.  I'm not forcing mine on everyone, I'm just telling to the dev that I liked their game and expect them to continue that way.

[Winged Silver]

Good on you OP the game certainly had its flaws, but it had a lot of fun moments too. I finished it twice, and now I'm replaying the first two games and reading the books leading up to Inquisition before I try another go at it (which has been fun! To anyone else who might've been considering that endeavor ^.^)

[Andrew Lucas]

I really can't decide between DAO and DAI, they're fantastic games and I enjoy them a lot. You guys don't need to be assholes just because of the OP's opinion, respect it. Stop whining about it and let people express what they think without calling them trolls. That's childish as it gets.

[arafinwe_ingalaure]

Good on you OP the game certainly had its flaws, but it had a lot of fun moments too. I finished it twice, and now I'm replaying the first two games and reading the books leading up to Inquisition before I try another go at it (which has been fun! To anyone else who might've been considering that endeavor ^.^)

 

Thank you, yes the game has flaws like most open world games,  But they are all minor to me (at least on PS4).  The fun factor made it a great gaming experience.

 

I really can't decide between DAO and DAI, they're fantastic games and I enjoy them a lot. You guys don't need to be assholes just because of the OP's opinion, respect it. Stop whining about it and let people express what they think without calling them trolls. That's childish as it gets.

 

DA:O is great on PC with all the fan made stuff it made it an even better game. DA:I is more action oriented, but with DA:O tactical view it would have been the best game of all time.  I wish we would get fan made content for DA:I too, but I guess it won't happen on the consoles.

[cotheer]

I think DAI very good game, very good, yes.

[DaemionMoadrin]

I understand that there are people who like these types of games. If you enjoy playing DA:I, then I'm happy for you. But please be honest and fair with your feedback. "Best cinematic scenes I have ever seen" for a game that lacked cinematics? Hrm. Yeah. Okay. "Almost perfect"... *sighs* Okay. It is your opinion.

I wish this would be proper feedback instead for BioWare worship. Why was it perfect? What did you like best, what was not so perfect, what would you change, what improvements would you like to see? Give examples.

Saying "This game is the best!" or "This game sucks!" is not useful feedback.

 

I'd rate DA:I as 7/10 at best, after they fix the bugs. It's a good game but far from great and definitely not the best. There is too much wasted potential, this game badly needed another year in development. As it is now it's just frustrating and disappointing.

 

Predictable story with an uninspiring villain, horrible pacing, bland main character, plot holes, side quests with no impact on the world, tedious time sinks that distracted from the story telling, changed lore/retcons and companions I couldn't connect to were the main offenders that broke the game for me. I'm not even going into the gameplay issues, the UI and all the other frustrations.

 

Romances? You get 3-4 special scenes/conversations and then it's business as usual. Maybe you get some banter about it but essentially nothing changes. It's like having a relationship with a cardboard cutout.

 

There are game elements like the mounts that are just there but aren't implemented properly. Skyhold could have been a lot more, too.

 

Is DA:I a bad game? No, it's not. In a few areas it's better than its predecessors. The overall gaming experience doesn't even compare though. BioWare games used to be addictive, something you'd play for hours while forgetting everything around you because they were so immersive. And after you were done, you replayed them again to see the alternative story lines and different gameplay with different races/classes. The games weren't perfect but they were interesting and fun and they made you care about the story and your companions and the fate of the world.

With DA:I finished there's not enough content left for a replay that you didn't see already. It's basically just the romances and the mage/templar decision. The rest is nearly identical.

I had to force myself to finish the game. I rather did chores in RL than going back to Thedas. My complete playthrough took me ~120 hours and just the idea of going through all that tedious mess again makes me sick.

 

I don't want BioWare to go back to DA:O or other old games. The direction they chose for DA:I is basically the right one. They just didn't get the balance between action and RPG right. Or the balance between open world and story telling. Or .... well, I've got a long list. Let's just say that some decisions were unfortunate and that DA:I would have profited from more time.

 

There are also some decisions that were plain wrong. Like releasing the game for the old gen consoles. Or optimizing for AMD hardware.

 

 

Anyway... glad you're having fun. I envy you somewhat.

[DragonAddict]

I totally agree.

 

I rated DAI on sale    7 out of 10.

 

DAI is not the best RPG ever and Bioware makes fantastic RPG's.......that sounds like trolls and someone who got paid to post that.......

 

DAI is just a bigger version of DA2.

 

I also had to force myself to finish the game........

[rapscallioness]

I had a fun time with the game, too, OP.

[Tsunami Chef]

I understand that there are people who like these types of games. If you enjoy playing DA:I, then I'm happy for you. But please be honest and fair with your feedback. "Best cinematic scenes I have ever seen" for a game that lacked cinematics? Hrm. Yeah. Okay. "Almost perfect"... *sighs* Okay. It is your opinion.

I wish this would be proper feedback instead for BioWare worship. Why was it perfect? What did you like best, what was not so perfect, what would you change, what improvements would you like to see? Give examples.

Saying "This game is the best!" or "This game sucks!" is not useful feedback.

 

I'd rate DA:I as 7/10 at best, after they fix the bugs. It's a good game but far from great and definitely not the best. There is too much wasted potential, this game badly needed another year in development. As it is now it's just frustrating and disappointing.

 

Predictable story with an uninspiring villain, horrible pacing, bland main character, plot holes, side quests with no impact on the world, tedious time sinks that distracted from the story telling, changed lore/retcons and companions I couldn't connect to were the main offenders that broke the game for me. I'm not even going into the gameplay issues, the UI and all the other frustrations.

 

Romances? You get 3-4 special scenes/conversations and then it's business as usual. Maybe you get some banter about it but essentially nothing changes. It's like having a relationship with a cardboard cutout.

 

There are game elements like the mounts that are just there but aren't implemented properly. Skyhold could have been a lot more, too.

 

Is DA:I a bad game? No, it's not. In a few areas it's better than its predecessors. The overall gaming experience doesn't even compare though. BioWare games used to be addictive, something you'd play for hours while forgetting everything around you because they were so immersive. And after you were done, you replayed them again to see the alternative story lines and different gameplay with different races/classes. The games weren't perfect but they were interesting and fun and they made you care about the story and your companions and the fate of the world.

With DA:I finished there's not enough content left for a replay that you didn't see already. It's basically just the romances and the mage/templar decision. The rest is nearly identical.

I had to force myself to finish the game. I rather did chores in RL than going back to Thedas. My complete playthrough took me ~120 hours and just the idea of going through all that tedious mess again makes me sick.

 

I don't want BioWare to go back to DA:O or other old games. The direction they chose for DA:I is basically the right one. They just didn't get the balance between action and RPG right. Or the balance between open world and story telling. Or .... well, I've got a long list. Let's just say that some decisions were unfortunate and that DA:I would have profited from more time.

 

There are also some decisions that were plain wrong. Like releasing the game for the old gen consoles. Or optimizing for AMD hardware.

 

 

Anyway... glad you're having fun. I envy you somewhat.

Probably because people who enjoyed the game aren't writing their posts to tell bioware their exact techincal opinion of every aspects....because when you enjoy a game you don't think like that unless you're obsessive. You guys say it sucks and can point out a thousand reasons why because you have been in a bad moon the entire time playing and have had nothing better to do. When you enjoy a movie or game you don't write down a tally of exactly what you liked and loved.

 

I also love how you totally disregard what he does say in regards to technical aspects. You are no more logical than him, less more likely.

[DragonAddict]

If I enjoy a game, I do post about it and my hardware specs. I also buy all the DLC's and play it many times over.

 

Too many posts of this is the best RPG ever!!! because someone went out and bought a PS4.......go figure. Try playing DAI with a PC keyboard and mouse.....play DAO and all the DLC's and then play DAI and tell us what you think......I bet DAI will not be the best RPG ever anymore.

 

The quaity of DAO and its DLC's and what you could do in that game, is not present with DAI.

 

DAI is for console users, PS4, very simplifed, short game, hack and slash, useless side quests, and too much was taken out of what a RPG is supposed to be all about. It's not about the latest prettiest graphics and cutscenes....

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I agree with Inquisition being the best Dragon Age game to date. As for it being better than the Mass Effect games that is hard since they are different kinds of games. It'd be like comparing a fantasy movie to a science fiction movie. 

[TheOgre]

I agree with Inquisition being the best Dragon Age game to date. As for it being better than the Mass Effect games that is hard since they are different kinds of games. It'd be like comparing a fantasy movie to a science fiction movie. 

 

I guess we can't all agree on things

[DragonAddict]

DAI - BEST RPG EVER........went out and bought a PS4........

[Realmzmaster]

I game on a PC. I use keyboard and mouse. I like DAI. I do not need a PS4 to enjoy it. Is it the best cRPG ever? No, but it is my game of the year. Is DAO the best cRPG ever? No. 

 

The closest to the best cRPG ever are BG2 and PST. I also like DA2 which I still believe has a better story than DAO. DAI and DAO are about on par for me

 

Oh, and before anybody tells me I am wrong. This is my humble opinion and the only one that needs to matter to me. But YMMV.

[mutantspicy]

I game on a PC. I use keyboard and mouse. I like DAI. I do not need a PS4 to enjoy it. Is it the best cRPG ever? No, but it is my game of the year. Is DAO the best cRPG ever? No. 

 

The closest to the best cRPG ever are BG2 and PST. I also like DA2 which I still believe has a better story than DAO. DAI and DAO are about on par for me

 

Oh, and before anybody tells me I am wrong. This is my humble opinion and the only one that needs to matter to me. But YMMV.

Oh my a rationale response.  

[KaiserShep]

Oh my a rationale response.  

I know right? What's this forum coming to?

[TheOgre]

I know right? What's this forum coming to?

 

I shall bring us back on track then. 

 

We need someone to insult another person, so that we can summon the mod.

 

My opinion? Templars are a good thing, and mages are very scary. I'd rather never have freedom for mages. In fact, tranquil rites should be a standard, if you want to be a mage so badly? go to tevinter.

[otis0310]

First off ME2 is way better than this.

 

But the main reason fro my response  is that since you specified that is their best game since ME1 and DAO you have actively  elminated those two games as well as anything before them like Neverwinter Nights and Baldur's Gate.  Most of their games in the last few years, DA2 and ME3 for example, were pretty bad games.  So you are not giving the game close to as much praise as you think you are as a result. 

[Wevryn1]

I'd agree if **** wasn't so broke on this game.  MP is next to impossible to play right now.

 

I'd say this was the worse execution on Bioware since Dragon Age 2.  Everything looks good on paper, but is broken/glitched/poor hit boxed out.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Probably because people who enjoyed the game aren't writing their posts to tell bioware their exact techincal opinion of every aspects....because when you enjoy a game you don't think like that unless you're obsessive. You guys say it sucks and can point out a thousand reasons why because you have been in a bad moon the entire time playing and have had nothing better to do. When you enjoy a movie or game you don't write down a tally of exactly what you liked and loved.

 

I also love how you totally disregard what he does say in regards to technical aspects. You are no more logical than him, less more likely.

 

You are aware that we are in a thread of a gamer who enjoys the game, right? Someone who wants to give feedback?

 

Critique is a detailed analysis by definition. If you only say "I don't like it!" or "I love it!", then it's not proper critique. It also helps you understand -why- you love it. For example, if you say that the graphics are awesome... what about them is awesome? Is it the textures? The dynamic lighting?

 

Positive feedback is as much important as negative. We complain about BioWare not listening but if we only give them half of a critique, then it's no surprise if they go into a new direction we didn't expect. You always need to list the good things with the bad. It also helps the tone because otherwise it's too harsh. I understand why the devs avoid reading it then.

 

I'm not ignoring anything, it's more likely that you didn't understand my post. I admit that I wrote it late at night and it might not be 100% clear in some parts.

[DragonAddict]

I know why DAI is just a mediocre game and will be forgotten in a few years time, like DA2 but DAO is still remembered 5+ years later and played......that speaks volumes.

 

 

But enough of the facts why DAI is a very restrictive, hack and slash, dumbed down controller game, that has too much static non interactive eye candy everywhere and you can't do much, many useless filler side quests, can't talk to party characters, no gifts, no campsite, no storage chest and you get to explore big open meaningless areas....and the bugs....even after patch 3......I don't think a patch 4 will fix much either.......and will they even oprimized DAI for the PC like they said it was written for the PC in the actual interview???  Nope. But enough of that.

 

 

 

If DAI is the best game and RPG ever, WHY????

 

 

List all the things you can do in DAI that cannot be done in other RPG games, including DAO.

 

 

List all the things that make DAI way better than all the DA games and other RPG's and why.

 

 

I'm all ears and so is everyone else. Enlighten us all please and thx.