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Months Later, Dragon Age's PC Version Is Still Frustrating Players -Kotaku


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"I remember when I first booted up Dragon Age: Inquisition on my (not exactly wimpy) PC. The framerate was unexpectedly low, and there were stutters and crashes. Moreover, the controls were awkward as all get-out. Months later, some problems have been solved, but many still linger. PC players are getting fed up.

 

Over the course of the past few weeks, Kotaku's gotten numerous emails about what PC players find to be the sorry state of Dragon Age: Inquisition on their platform of choice. Moreover, there's a PC community concerns thread on BioWare's forums that spans nearly 500 pages. As you might expect from something that hundreds of people have dedicated thousands upon thousands of words to, the outrage stems from, let us say, a few factors."

 

http://kotaku.com/mo...poin-1681031116


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Well! Kind of glad someone's talking about it, at least.



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Someone's being serious about this for months. lol

And always from PC community.  :whistle:



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That title should read, "Months Later, People Are Still Crying About A Non-Issue -Kotaku".

I'm not surprised though, haters have to make up something to 'prove' that their opinion is the only correct one.
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I run Inquisition on the lowest settings because my computer is getting old (only have mesh and main textures on high) and I never had problems other than a couple of crashes (which happens on every game I play anyway). Any other issues I had I don't even remember now because they never stopped me from playing and enjoying the game, and most small issues could be fixed by quicksave and reloading. Controls felt a bit awkward at first but that could be said for any new game you have to get used to. I wonder how 'un-playable' the game actually is for the people that are complaining so much. Whenever I've seen posts that are claiming the game is un-finished, they usually bring up points that don't actually stop them from playing and continuing with the game anyway.



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I'm still waiting for them to fix the Qunari armor. -_-



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The controls have been a non-issue for me. The cut-scene crashes still not having been resolved is rather annoying though. 



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The "made for PC gamers by PC gamers" is still a joke, and the tactical camera is still trash.

 

However, the game runs smoothly on my PC, and I'm playing 2560x1440.  I haven't had a crash since around Christmas, and the cutscenes run fine.  I really don't notice the controls anymore, but just because you get used to them doesn't mean they weren't bad to begin with.

 

If they improve the tactical camera I'd really have no complaints about the PC controls or how the game runs.  It could absolutely be optimized better, but it runs smooth for me. 


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Only thing I have to complain about is the tactical camera and tactics in general, stuff which can be improved upon (and do not 'break' the game). Multiplayer also sometimes craps out on me. Otherwise, I have no complaints. Running it on ultra, and it runs perfectly fine.

 

Not to say that other people aren't having difficulties, of course. But I think it gets blown out of proportion



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The "made for PC gamers by PC gamers" is still a joke, and the tactical camera is still trash.

 

However, the game runs smoothly on my PC, and I'm playing 2560x1440.  I haven't had a crash since around Christmas, and the cutscenes run fine.  I really don't notice the controls anymore, but just because you get used to them doesn't mean they weren't bad to begin with.

 

If they improve the tactical camera I'd really have no complaints about the PC controls or how the game runs.  It could absolutely be optimized better, but it runs smooth for me. 

 

Same here.

 

Tac cam is garbage. I hate using it. Everything else is bearable.


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Is the PC version really that bad? I play on Xbox One and the game has been running mostly smooth for me. Out of 400 hours of playtime, it only crashed on me 3 times.

I'd think the Almighty PC would run this game like its nothing but it appears that isn't the case. Or maybe people are just overreacting...

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Yeah, I spent about an hour being annoyed at the controls before rebinding pause and jump. An hour after that, I was used to them and everything was fine. The only other issue I had was cutscene stutter, but disabling the Origin overlay got rid of that, no big deal. Oh, it did crash once, but it was because Origin did something funky, not the game.

 

Like, I can understand being frustrated by some of the changes, and the tactical camera is not good. But the continued insistence that certain things are broken when they are, in fact, not is ludicrous. Not only that, it distracts attention away from the things that are actually broken. 



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I've had absolutely no issues with DA:I. Well, I had one CTD one time in like 200+ hours of gameplay spread over a few months since release. I've had more issues with the origin client in the same time (e.g. it won't open now). 

 

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Here is what I don't get - did anyone who is complaining about this stuff now actually play PC games in the 90s and 2000s? Games run like a dream now compared to the nightmare they were back in the day. 


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That title should read, "Months Later, People Are Still Crying About A Non-Issue -Kotaku".

I'm not surprised though, haters have to make up something to 'prove' that their opinion is the only correct one.

 

Yep. I am running the game on PC and have few issues.     Most of these complaints are from people who cant stand change.



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Is the PC version really that bad? I play on Xbox One and the game has been running mostly smooth for me. Out of 400 hours of playtime, it only crashed on me 3 times.

I'd think the Almighty PC would run this game like its nothing but it appears that isn't the case. Or maybe people are just overreacting...

 

No people are exaggerating. I have no issues playing on PC. It took me about an hour to change some settings and adapt. People are just LAZY



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"Because I don't have these problems, it proves that these problems don't exist!"

 

There's a lot of documented stuff out in the feedback forum, if you can wallow through the massive despair, abandonment issues, and enormous negativity. Just a thought.


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I had quite a few DirextX crashes until I turned of ambient occlusion. Since I'm not really sure what ambient occlusion does, I am fine with this. It would be nice if BioWare and/or Nvida could do something to get the game to play better with Nvidia cards, but it certainly hasn't stopped me from playing for two hundred hours.

 

Here is what I don't get - did anyone who is complaining about this stuff now actually play PC games in the 90s and 2000s? Games run like a dream now compared to the nightmare they were back in the day.

 

Indeed. Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines is still the king of buggy CRPGs as far as I'm concerned, and that came out in 2004. And I played it with the fan patch. (I once had to restart a mission because I needed to do through a door that wasn't attached to its frame. Even amateurs writing interactive fiction know that this is the first thing you check!)

 

I wish that this was a recent trend that might soon end, but it really isn't. The BG series was still full of bugs when BioWare stopped patching it (read the notes for the unofficial patch some time), Jade Empire still has at least one potentially game-breaking bug that requires a fan patch to fix, and Dragon Age: Origins ran a lot worse for me on release than Inquisition does. Not to mention Awakening, which has a cut scene that can steal everything the PC is wearing.

 

Which is not to say that buggy games getting released to market isn't a problem, just that it's not a new problem or one unique to this game, or BioWare games, or CRPGS.



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I've had absolutely no issues with DA:I. Well, I had one CTD one time in like 200+ hours of gameplay spread over a few months since release. I've had more issues with the origin client in the same time (e.g. it won't open now). 

 

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Here is what I don't get - did anyone who is complaining about this stuff now actually play PC games in the 90s and 2000s? Games run like a dream now compared to the nightmare they were back in the day. 

 

Heck, it sounds like they have never played a Bethesda, Obsidian, or Ubisoft game either.

 

I will admit I have had several crashes to desktop issues myself, the catch is I don't think most of them were because of the game for my video card died because the fans on it seized, since getting a new card I had it crash once in 250 hours of play.  My biggest complaint is the tactical movement, but I got used to it over time it just feels a little odd still.

 

What I don't understand really is the mentality of the complaints, for it seems they start with "rush out the patch we need to now!" and when the patch is rushed "why does the patch break the game" followed by "rush me more patches" when BioWare takes a little too long to fix the issue.



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I really only have a problem w/ the tactical camera and therefore I never use it. There is a learning curve especially w/ M&K. I had a high learning curve on two handed warrior w/ M&K and no auto attack, but the rest took about an hour to get used to. I did have to rebind a lot of keys, but once that was done it was cool. I'll have an occasional crash, but nothing to gripe about and the graphics are great, on ultra, runs smoothly. Still, made for PC gamers for PC gamers? That must have went the way of the Crestwood timed mission. It's a console port, but not the worst one I've ever seen.

 

And yeah, Qunari armor does need to be fixed.


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I get the distinct feeling that people who complain about the PC controls don't play MMOs.

 

However, with this new patch, I've been getting some serious lag whenever I try to play that has never happened before. :\


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That title should read, "Months Later, People Are Still Crying About A Non-Issue -Kotaku".

I'm not surprised though, haters have to make up something to 'prove' that their opinion is the only correct one.

 

I find the lack of auto-attack, terrible tac cam and no click-to-move (outside of tac cam ofc)  to be issues. While it's true that a lot of us in the PC community have resorted to whining and vitriol, many of us are trying to provide constructive feedback/criticism about the controls and UI. It's simply not fair to have been told DAI is "made by PC gamers, for PC gamers" only to get a game that is obviously designed with a controller in mind.


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The only bad thing DAI has is tact cam but I don't get these people saying it makes the game "unplayable". Kinda overreactive and made-up nonsense.



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"Because I don't have these problems, it proves that these problems don't exist!"

 

There's a lot of documented stuff out in the feedback forum, if you can wallow through the massive despair, abandonment issues, and enormous negativity. Just a thought.

 

Yep the people who bring up their own bug-free playthrough as some sort of generalizable evidence are perplexing.

 

And as for the bolded part, that's pretty much the entire BSN, so we all should have plenty of practice doing so.



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Ah, the joys of minimizing legitimate complaints simply because you don't share their problems.


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Is the PC version really that bad? I play on Xbox One and the game has been running mostly smooth for me. Out of 400 hours of playtime, it only crashed on me 3 times.

I'd think the Almighty PC would run this game like its nothing but it appears that isn't the case. Or maybe people are just overreactin1st

First: They marketed the game as made for PC gamers by PC gamers. They even had a video of it.

 

Problem is the game is very different from what they adverstise.

-Very poor optimizations (Low fps, Fps issues, Lags and stutters) while I can run more other demanding games with stable fps and no issues...

*till the patch 2 arrived (for me)

-UI is designed for Consoles ( 8 skill bars, No tooltip, Tac-cam bad, AI strategies are not the same as origins)

-Pc control suck: Not even click to move, No auto attack, not even a walk button till the patch 3 arrive (but i did get use to it)

 

For me DAI is a great game I love it really! but lacks the likeness of what make dragon age origin one of the best rpg games for me.


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