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Months Later, Dragon Age's PC Version Is Still Frustrating Players -Kotaku


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I've been playing DAI on the PC almost continuously since November. I'll sum up my experience:

 

(1) The general control scheme is suboptimal, sometimes annoyingly so, but you can adapt to it and if you're willing to do that, there is little impact on your enjoyment of the game.

 

(2) The one critical issue is the tactical camera. it's simply not usable. The recent patch didn't fix the most important problems, namely that the camera gets stuck on terrain, that you can't move it with the mouse and that it's impossible to zoom out far enough to make meaningful tactical decisions. It is, in fact, sometimes easier to get an overview of the battlefield from your characters's shoulder camera.

 

(3) Regardless of how I experience the game, Bioware's statement "made for PC gamers by PC gamers" comes across as an empty marketing statement, since so many control elements are clearly optimized for consoles, and often - as in the 8-slot limit or the inability to move the tactical camera with the mouse - to the detriment of PC players - and thus to PC players specifically, it comes across as a cruel joke. This statement may have done more damage than any real issues.


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I've had absolutely no issues playing the game on my PC so far, not to mention the joy of Fade-touched textures and ultra mesh qualities my mid range card can reach. Of course I barely even touched the K/M for this game, since I already own a razer 360 controller and have been using it since the beginning. 

 

However, if people are having a problem with the K/M, it's a legitimate complaint. They should not to be forced to a different control scheme because the developer failed to provide a proper one for the K/M.



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Months, I tell you! MONTHS!! All two of them!!!!


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I haven't had any issues playing on a PC with K&M. once I got use to the control all went well. 

 

My issues are what the game lacks or controls. Such as the 8 slot bar limit. For a mage, at level 10 you have to choose what skills to drop and what to keep. Not cool. I don't care if Ice Wall sucks - I like it and shouldn't have to drop it. The buggy Tac Cam. And all the MMO-like fetch/fedex quests.

 

Frankly if BW increased the slot bar and fix the Tac Cam I'd be happy.  There are other issues - like gear - why does it all look the same? But I can live with that.



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I have no major problems with it one my PC... My only frustration is that a lot of features were designed to match the limitations of the consoles.. Made for Pc gamers by Pc gamers ? The PR team did it's job well. Congrats. It's amazing that people actually believed that.



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I've had very few issues playing on PC. I did have some cut-scene crashes happening right after launch, but as soon as NVidia got around to update their drivers a bit everything has been running pretty smooth.



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As for the improved controls, UI, and other elements fans have repeatedly asked for, BioWare was worrisomely hesitant to go into specifics. I asked if a better UI, an overhauled tactical view, click-to-move functionality, and better auto-attack were in the works, and all the developer offered was, "We're continuing to work on further improvements to the PC experience for our players." Huh. They also wouldn't detail how long they plan to keep plugging away at the PC version of Dragon Age: Inquisition, instead merely saying that they're "always listening to fans and are committed to giving them a great experience with our games."

 

Yeah, I think I'm pretty much done with Bioware.


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Same here.

 

Tac cam is garbage. I hate using it. Everything else is bearable.

 

Mine runs well too, haven´t had any problems (practically). But I hate to have to say "bearable" for a game series I used to love. I just fired up Origins again, what a relief it was. I can´t believe how inadequate Inq is, on first glance it looks good but then you get a closer look by playing it...



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Myself, I'm fairly lucky when it comes to the issues: I've got the occasional CTD when entering a cutscene or the warroom (about once every 10 hours), bugged cutscenes (stick figures ftw). I do cope with the lack of auto-attack, crappy AI, non-existent clickable/mousable icons on the hotbar (sorry, but I can't remember what each icon stands for... where is the text?). However, I DO hope that those will get fixed, because it is not making me enjoy the game. The empty promise 'pc game, bringing back the good things of DA:O and DA:2' makes it more frustrating, to me. I guess I was a fool to believe them. 


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I should add that as bad as the tactical camera is, the one issue I think absolutely needs fixing before anything else is not PC-specific: the Skyhold outfit. That's my no.1 complaint about DAI.


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I should add that as bad as the tactical camera is, the one issue I think absolutely needs fixing before anything else is not PC-specific: the Skyhold outfit. That's my no.1 complaint about DAI.

This, a hundred times this.



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Controls are downright terrible, no free camera control with the mouse, tac cams requires using wasd to move the camera and has extremely low zoom, non bindable mouse keys (seriously).



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Controls are downright terrible, no free camera control with the mouse, tac cams requires using wasd to move the camera and has extremely low zoom, non bindable mouse keys (seriously).

Try dark souls pc port. I think all games should do it like they did it was really great and made the game alot more enjoyable. 
 



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Also a hardcore PCer.  Ieldra summed it up best.  It took me exactly an hour to figure out the taccam sucked and adapt my playing style to the game.  500 hours in and I've had 2 cutscene crashes and a few minor bugs here and there.  I followed the PC "complaint" forum from the beginning and much of it is petty; and much of the pettiness makes it hard to discern those with real issues.  I kept hearing about people with nVidia cards not being able to play it so I decide to load it up on my laptop which is half the minimum specs.  Other than that god awful plastic hair it runs perfectly with the appropriate settings.  One person's sole complaint was not being able to walk posting the same complaint over and over ad nauseam.  The whole time I am thinking I want a cheat for infinite fade step to go faster.  I guess Samara was right: Put three humans in a room, there will be six opinions.


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I have almost 600 hours on the game logged already on my PC and I think it maybe crashed once in all that time.    The biggest complained about issue is the controls.   The truth though is that the controls are okay and any PC player that has played an MMO or action RPG adapted to them just fine within a few days time.   

 

The issue is that Dragon Age was never really an "action" RPG for many PC players.    The previous two games could be played quite enjoyably as a pause and play tactical combat game.   Inquisition doesn't really allow that for two reasons:  the Tac cam is so messed up and the games difficulty is so lessened that it doesn't actually require tactics to be successful.    Combat plays closer to Diablo than it does to Dragon Age.   Yes, there are other issues.   That fact that we just NOW got the ability to walk is kind of mind-boggling how such a feature was overlooked.   Clearly no one on the Dev team used a mouse and keyboard during development or would have noticed such an obvious and glaring issue.  

 

 I love DA:I quite a bit, but I do sort of mourn the loss of yet another tactical combat game series even if I do understand why they chose this direction.


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I'm a pc player , I had some crash issue for a short while and there were a couple of annoying things...but maybe I'm lucky , I don't have a terrible experience on pc.

 

The tac cam is awful , but I don't like playing like this and I found out you don't even need tac cam on nightmare so ...not really a problem.



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First my system specs:

i7 4770K

32GB Ram

2 x 290x Crossfire

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate

Running with Mantle enabled @ 1920x1080 - Ultra/'fade touched' MSAAx4 (Also runs great using Eyefinity over 3 screens but the sides are distracting)

Runs fine on 1 card but on 2 it runs super smooth.

I'm on my 4th playthrough and i only had 1 crash because i left it on and my pc went in standby.

 

To be honest i experienced no real issues from the start, besides those 'build in'.

 

The only issues i had:

- The moon 'flashes' in hissing wastes and some other place.

- Being in combat with some random beast halfway across the map while talking to a npc bugging the conversation.

 

Tac cam/tactics 

- Hardly use it anyways (thanks to DA2 really and when i wanted to use it it didn't do what i wanted it to) 

- Tactics.. In DAO you could tweak it perfectly, now... it's just crap. Ranged ALWAYS ends up in range of mobs.

 

Dumbed down spells

- A lot of spells in the so called 'specialization' were normal spells before (except that rift 1)

- Where is pinning shot/rain of arrows.. (not the rift 1) and more.

- Missing spells like firestorm/icestorm etc.

- Auto pausing during AOE spells..

 

Spellbar 

- Only 8 spells on the bar? Seriously? In DAO i had it stretched from left to right loaded with spells and stuff. (This is only because of the consoles... lame).

- Scale the interface or parts of it.

 

Cutscenes/annoyances.

- Sometimes there's texture flickering in some of the cutscenes (like when you awake in Haven and go to the Chantry).

- NPC's not facing the right way when talking to them.

- The NPC's @ Haven that are sparring sometimes face the wrong way/hit thin air (Seen this in other places also)

- Clipping of gear/hair/etc also when npc's 'touch' eachother.

- Always limited hairstyles, i want longer hair styles..

- Not 1 dwarf with a beard??

- The fog..... Ugly and annoying.

- Little gear variety, everything looks the same for a few that look better mostly the 'epic' gear which you obtain much later in the game.

- Head gear is mostly fugly also.

- No day/night cycle.

 

-Modding support... Come on... Mods kept DAO alive for so much longer.

 

 

There are more things not really issues but more 'wish they had done it like that' things.


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Not a PC player. But TAC Cam is irredeemably broken. Also. There is no way to give multiple orders to multiple people. Pause and play is impossible.

So. Many. Bugs.

Did I mention the banter bug yet?

Still the most ambitious game BW has ever done. And I'll cut em some slack. The REAL issue (and this was covered in the article) is the lack of communication. They don't need to rush QA. They don't need to give us extra content. Just talk to us!

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I should add that as bad as the tactical camera is, the one issue I think absolutely needs fixing before anything else is not PC-specific: the Skyhold outfit. That's my no.1 complaint about DAI.

 

It looks fine on humans but my elf looked hilarious.

If anything is an offense against fashion, it's the Inquisition soldiers outfit. That green.



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The game has run smoothly since launch on my computer, I've little to complain about except for the persistent failure of the prison cutscene failing to kick in whenever I load in a new Keep and start a new game. It requires an average of three attempts to get it to work properly.

 

I'm occasionally amused by rubber banding party members and NPCs who zipped about the screen or pushed the PC in cutscenes. ;)  Like in one instance when talking to Cullen at Haven, I watched three Chantry NPCs rubber banding into existence sequentially in the background for the entire dialogue.



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Try dark souls pc port. I think all games should do it like they did it was really great and made the game alot more enjoyable. 
 

 

You mean the only game I have seen on Steam that has a warning saying "Microsoft Xbox 360® Controller for Windows® (or equivalent) is strongly recommended"? That sounds like a bad port to me considering that is the complaint I keep hearing about Dragon Age: Inquisition.


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You mean the only game I have seen on Steam that has a warning saying "Microsoft Xbox 360® Controller for Windows® (or equivalent) is strongly recommended"? That sounds like a bad port to me considering that is the complaint I keep hearing about Dragon Age: Inquisition.

I was ironic. 



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Myself, I'm fairly lucky when it comes to the issues: I've got the occasional CTD when entering a cutscene or the warroom (about once every 10 hours), bugged cutscenes (stick figures ftw). I do cope with the lack of auto-attack, crappy AI, non-existent clickable/mousable icons on the hotbar (sorry, but I can't remember what each icon stands for... where is the text?). However, I DO hope that those will get fixed, because it is not making me enjoy the game. The empty promise 'pc game, bringing back the good things of DA:O and DA:2' makes it more frustrating, to me. I guess I was a fool to believe them. 

Ditto. Oh Maker... I just got it. We're Bioware's new Q&A team. We're free. EA... I told you EA is cunning.


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I was ironic. 

 

My apologies then.  I have a hard time with that on the internet.



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My apologies then.  I have a hard time with that on the internet.

Thats true its hard to tell. Dark souls pc port is the worst example of game controls ever. And that is my honest opinion.


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