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[Kieran G.]

This thread will contains spoilers from The Masked Empire novel.

 

With the game out and many going through completionist playthroughs learning all they can, like myself. But the question still nags at me. who killed Felassan or if he is even dead?

 

My first assumption was Fen'Harel since the book speaks so much about him, and i was assuming he was going to be the main antagonist for DA:I. But later on i started to think it might be flemeth since she lost something too the Eluvians.

 

What do you all think? do you think its more complex or less? was it Flemeth who taught Felessan so much about ancient elven lore and then swiftly end him, Or was it Fen'Harel?

 

I would love to hear your input and ideas.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I think he was killed by Solas. He was comparing Briala to Fen'Harel the whole book, and died while saying "I suspect you'll hate this, but she reminds me of-"

I'm going to bet he was about to say 'You.'

[RobRam10]

He was comparing Briala to Fen'Harel 

No wonder Solas smited his ass.

[Kieran G.]

I think he was killed by Solas. He was comparing Briala to Fen'Harel the whole book, and died while saying "I suspect you'll hate this, but she reminds me of-"

I'm going to bet he was about to say 'You.'

I would think that too. but meeting Fen'Harel in the game, he doesn't seem the type, while Flemeth or even Morrigan seem the type who would do that.

[Hellion Rex]

I would think that too. but meeting Fen'Harel in the game, he doesn't seem the type, while Flemeth or even Morrigan seem the type who would do that.

Why would either need the Eluvian passphrase though?

 

Flemeth took control of one very easily, and Morrigan already knows how to work them without the password.

[Wolfen09]

probably solas, felessan always runs away from the topic of his clan...  it is also widely believed that he is a dreamer like feynriel was...  however, i wouldnt be surprised if he wasnt a "servant" like abelas was, only to fen harel....  it would make sense, doesnt talk about clan cause he never had one, has the whole valeshien or however you spell it marks that dalish have, but also the slaves have...  makes mention at the end of the book that he was trying to stay awake as long as possible so he wouldnt be in danger...  well, pretty sure flemeth aint the one walking around in dreams,  if she did, that's a big middle finger to solas's uniqueness...

[Kieran G.]

Why would either need the Eluvian passphrase though?

 

Flemeth took control of one very easily, and Morrigan already knows how to work them without the password.

I was just using an example. not stating that i think Morrigan Killed him, just saying that i don't see him the type to teach and then kill. but i guess it is quite possible he was looking for a way into the golden city just like corypheus and was as well going to try to use an eluvian like morrigan thought corypheus was going to do, and once that plan failed and he couldn't get into the Eluvian he decided to use the orb. and was so angry he kill felassan since we have seen his anger drive him to murder before.

[kukumburr]

I've been wondering about this too. I do think it was Fen'Harel. There definitely is a comparison to be drawn between Briala and Solas, so I think Felassan was going to say "you" as well. Also, Felassan just seems like he could be willing to serve Fen'Harel. He doesn't speak fondly of elven "nobility" and acts a bit like Solas, what with the being all cryptic and wily. I'm not sure why Solas would just kill him, but we don't know the history of the relationship. Maybe Felassan betrayed him or something at some point but Solas wanted to make use of him instead of needlessly disposing of a possible tool. But when he stopped being useful, he got rid of him. I suppose it could be someone else, but Fen'Harel makes the most sense to me. I hope we do find out more about Felassan and what really happened eventually though.

[Lorien19]

I for one, don't think he was going to say "you" but "Fen'harel".The reason mostly being that Solas was indifferent about Briala and I doubt he of all people wouldn't know the password for the eluvians when it is suggested that he used them to lock the other gods,in his banter with Cole.Particularly when the password is "Fen'Harel's blessing".
Not to mention that he meets Flemythal in the crossroads during the epilogue.

My guess is that Felassan was serving one of the gods who is locked away,perhaps the one responsible for Mythal's murder.Even though I suspected it was more of an alliance and more than one person,were responsible.He was bound to them like the sentinels are to Mythal,hence telling Briala not to tell him the password, because he could be easily compelled to give it to them.
I also suspect that this god in question,is also Fen'harel's "mortal enemy",hence why Felassan presumes that they're going to be displeased if he mentions that Briala kind of reminds him of the Dread wolf,especially when in the previous sentence said how the modern elves were stronger than both ofthem expected.Well,this is my theory at least.

[Mims]

I also think Felassan was probably working for a trapped elven god.

 

I'm not opposed to the idea that Fen'Harel killed Felassan- we know from the spirit quest he does get angry from time to time. But the main reason that keeps me from thinking he did it was that Cole establishes that the elven gods [or at least, something that has reason to hate Solas] is trapped in a mirror. Felassan's master seems bound to the fade, which we already know Fen'Harel isn't. We also know Fen'Harel can use the eluvians just fine.

 

So it seems the killer would be someone who needs access to those mirrors. Which would be whomever Fen'Harel trapped in one. 

 

If you subscribe to the theory that the elven gods were corrupted by red lyrium, one of the codexes also mentions beings trapped, and that they had 'found the dreams again.' That seems to imply that whatever it is is capable of walking the fade once more, looking for a way to reawaken. 

[Obadiah]

I've been pretty confused about that epilogue scene in Inquisition and what it shows.

One idea I have is that Solas could be some sort of abomination, like Wynne was, with a spirit that just sort of erupts from time to time and does things. For the whole game Solas didn't seem like a killer, and could in fact can be talked down from executing those mages that summoned and bound his spirit friend. Yet Solas appeared to "murder" Flemeth, somewhat unexpectedly.

I think Solas killed Felassan, just because we haven't been introduced to anyone else who would do it, and that his abomination bound spirit sort of compelled him to do it. Maybe it was because Felassan gave Briala the Eluvians, or maybe it was because Solas needed Felassan's power the way he needed Flemeth's.

[Kulyok]

It's kind of not very logical to hide the password from Fen'Harel when the password is "Fen'Harel's blessing". So I would presume the mysterious eluvian-seeker who killed Felassan in the Fade was not Fen'Harel.

 

That, and I think Solas has a thing for freedom and persuasion - I doubt he'd 1) bind a follower with blood writing; 2) kill a valuable ally/tool without trying to convince him first.

[Reznore57]

I think Solas killed Felassan.

Felassan don't worship the elven gods , the only elven gods who reject openly his God title is Solas.

Also Felassan kept on telling tales about Fen Harel.

We know Solas was asleep and in the Fade , Felassan boss was in the Fade, too.

Also Felassan isn't afraid of Ishmael (the Choice "Spirit") and he tell him chaos is about to happen.

We know Solas woke up with a plan in mind , it just didn't go well.

[Addai]

+1 for it was an elven god trapped behind a mirror. My guess is Dirthamen or Falon'din and my first guess is Dirthamen. He would have reason to hate Felassan for revealing secrets to Briala, even without any other factor.

I think it's also very possible that Felassan knew Fen'Harel and was possibly recruited away from service to his master by him, and was serving as Solas' eyes and ears for a time while Solas searched for a way to re-ignite his orb's power. So Dirthamen or whoever is killing Felassan in revenge for treachery and for working for a hated rival. Felassan talks about Fen'Harel like he knows him, has a lot of his perspectives, and at the end I think he was about to say "you'll hate this, but she reminds me a lot of Fen'Harel."

Solas' words to Abelas in the temple sound like something he might have said to Felassan at some point. "There are other paths, other duties you might take up."

It also makes no sense that it would be Solas who killed him because Felassan is avoiding sleep in order to evade this entity. Solas is awake and in the mortal world- he could find Felassan there if he wanted to kill him. Only someone trapped in the Fade would be restricted to hunting him there. It would also have to be someone who can find Felassan instantly if he sleeps. Like someone whose vallaslin he's wearing.

[Panda]

Well I'm sure that he was killed in the end of book and I assumed that it was Solas who killed him. But no idea why.

[Deanna]

Where do you get the password was Fan'Harel's Blessing?? The passphrase was never said in the book, and that's one thing that always bothered me. Especially when Briala was about to tell Felassan the pass phrase and he stopped her...

[Ajna]

+1 for it was an elven god trapped behind a mirror. My guess is Dirthamen or Falon'din and my first guess is Dirthamen. He would have reason to hate Felassan for revealing secrets to Briala, even without any other factor.

I think it's also very possible that Felassan knew Fen'Harel and was possibly recruited away from service to his master by him, and was serving as Solas' eyes and ears for a time while he searched for a way to re-ignite his orb's power. So Dirthamen or whoever is killing Felassan is revenge for treachery and for working for a hated rival. Felassan talks about Fen'Harel like he knows him, has a lot of his perspectives, and at the end I think he was about to say "you'll hate this, but she reminds me a lot of Fen'Harel."

Solas' words to Abelas in the temple sound like something he might have said to Felassan at some point. "There are other paths, other duties you might take up."

It also makes no sense that it would be Solas who killed him because Felassan is avoiding sleep in order to evade this entity. Solas is awake and in the mortal world- he could find Felassan there if he wanted to kill him. Only someone trapped in the Fade would be restricted to hunting him there. It would also have to be someone who can find Felassan instantly if he sleeps. Like someone whose vallaslin he's wearing.

 

This has been my theory ever since meeting Solas, it makes the most sense to me.

 

Fen'Harel Enansal (Dread Wolf's Blessing) is the passphrase and it is mentioned in the book.

[Deanna]

Do you know where in book (what chapter) cuz I really don't remember the pass phrase ever being revealed...

[Ajna]

Do you know where in book (what chapter) cuz I really don't remember the pass phrase ever being revealed...

 

At the end the last time she's actually in it, From the book:- She mouthed the passphrase, and the tunnel closed behind her, as if it never existed "Fen'Harel enansal".  The Dread Wolf's blessing.  I have it on kindle, but I'm sure you can find it.

[Deanna]

Yea I have it in print (paperback) I just didn't feel like skimming through the book just to find the pass phrase.

I should really re-read TME alot I forgot or missed.

[MoonDrummer]

If he was killed in the fade wouldn't that mmake him tranquil

[Ajna]

If he was killed in the fade wouldn't that mmake him tranquil

Somniari are able to actually kill people in the fade. I imagine that means they can kill each other too.

[Addai]

This has been my theory ever since meeting Solas, it makes the most sense to me.
 
Fen'Harel Enansal (Dread Wolf's Blessing) is the passphrase and it is mentioned in the book.

I really like this as a solution as well, because it ties Solas to TME and it also gives us a hint about a possible future antagonist.

Solas doesn't show much interest in Briala, but he could be playing coy.

[Steelcan]

I really like this as a solution as well, because it ties Solas to TME and it also gives us a hint about a possible future antagonist.

Solas doesn't show much interest in Briala, but he could be playing coy.

idk, he was pretty ok with it when Gaspard offed her

[Addai]

idk, he was pretty ok with it when Gaspard offed her

Can Gaspard kill her in DAI? I haven't seen that. Anyway that's what I said- Solas isn't very interested in her one way or the other, which seems odd if Felassan was her mentor and was reporting to Solas.

All in all, Solas' reaction to Briala is puzzling.