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I miss desire demons and brood mothers. Bioware used to be a lot darker. Grittier is a better word. Creepier.


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So long as all the straight companions follow the same rule. I don't want to have to hear how Varric finds Bianca beautiful or Black wall and Josephine start seeing each other.

I don't think there is a need to hear about it, but to be honest it is within norm, so no problem with me if the straight discussions stay. Before you call me a 'hypocrite' or something of that ilk; I do not support notion of equality, I despise it.



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I don't think there is a need to hear about it, but to be honest it is within norm, so no problem with me if the straight discussions stay. Before you call me a 'hypocrite' or something of that ilk; I do not support notion of equality, I despise it.


Good. Because the gays are taking over. We made pamphlets and cookies.
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I don't want to hear about this either. If it wasn't for the fact that they never actually start a relationship then I would have yet another Bioware game where I can't do the romances.

Why not? Couldn't Josie just be demi, and then attracted to Black wall. The protag isn't privy to everyone's business at all times. She and Blackwall could feasibly get to know each other over the course of the game. Or am I missing something on demisexuality?

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Good. Because the gays are taking over. We made pamphlets and cookies.

 

And mimosas......


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Why not? Couldn't Josie just be demi, and then attracted to Black wall. The protag isn't privy to everyone's business at all times. She and Blackwall could feasibly get to know each other over the course of the game. Or am I missing something on demisexuality?

It has nothing to with sexuality(though I'm being told that what I am is fake in another thread at this moment. :(

 

I don't like companions hooking up because I feel like I am stopping something nice from happening by romancing one of them. 



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It has nothing to with sexuality(though I'm being told that what I am is fake in another thread at this moment. :(
 
I don't like companions hooking up because I feel like I am stopping something nice from happening by romancing one of them.

Or you could look at it as if either way something nice was going to happen and since it wasn't with you, it was him.

BTW: what thread?

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Or you could look at it as if either way something nice was going to happen and since it wasn't with you, it was him.

BTW: what thread?

That's what I am saying. I feel like my character is getting in the way of the happiness, if not the one I romance then the other one. For example, Garrus/Tali. I can't romance Tali with my Male Shepard now because I am depriving Garrus of happiness and I can't romance Garrus with my Female Shepard because I am depriving Tali of happiness. 

 

'Limited romance options' in the Story, Campaign & Characters section. 



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For God's sake, can someone just stick some boobs on the red templar behemoth and be done with it...


Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo ****** 3 again!! Ahhh hah!!!

Lord of terror? "OH NO I SAW BOOBS ON DIABLO I'M SCARRRED"

I'd be more scared if the red templar behemoth swung a huge crystal shaped dong

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Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo ****** 3 again!! Ahhh hah!!!
Lord of terror? "OH NO I SAW BOOBS ON DIABLO I'M SCARRRED"
I'd be more scared if the red templar behemoth swung a huge crystal shaped dong

Like Lucifer in Dante's inferno?

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Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo ****** 3 again!! Ahhh hah!!!

Lord of terror? "OH NO I SAW BOOBS ON DIABLO I'M SCARRRED"

I'd be more scared if the red templar behemoth swung a huge crystal shaped dong

 

Diablo? Huge dong? Scared? Have you played Dante's Inferno??

Honestly. If Bioware ever does a male desire demon.... I'd greatly approve xD

 

But were people actually mad about Diablo's "female" incarnation? I think I only saw that cinematic once, and although he was clearly more feminine after possessing a woman, I don't remember seeing boobs.



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I wouldn't say they made the game darker, just not children-friendly maybe? 



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I think part of it is the color palette as well. It's more vibrant than the previous games.

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You do realise the Spirit of Choice in DAI is part of the forbidden ones yes?

 

Regardless of ****** or not, it's still rather badass.



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Diablo? Huge dong? Scared? Have you played Dante's Inferno??

Honestly. If Bioware ever does a male desire demon.... I'd greatly approve xD

 

But were people actually mad about Diablo's "female" incarnation? I think I only saw that cinematic once, and although he was clearly more feminine after possessing a woman, I don't remember seeing boobs.

 

I was mad, not for females but I was mad because "Wow I feel like I'm fighting Diablos' little sister" -- Diablo from 2 was terrifying, this one was scary in the "oh its hideous!" sense.

 


 

You do realise the Spirit of Choice in DAI is part of the forbidden ones yes?

 

Regardless of ****** or not, it's still rather badass.

 
I suppose if i read the codex or something of Imshael i'd have known this one was more powerful than the others. Was too distracted by the hack and slash of the game and slinging staff attacks as if they were bolts of arrows into a terror / rage / pride demon. 
 
Oh and remember that red templar that was dying at the top of the fort? "Choice" spirit's offer to remove that red lyrium for ".. Never that!" was cringe worthy at least. If it were a female red templar (which we never seem to see for some reason) the forums would be in outrage over that segment.
 
I actually haven't seen, any female templar that attacked.. Wheres the equality in that? Red Templars only can be male..


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I suppose if i read the codex or something of Imshael i'd have known this one was more powerful than the others. Was too distracted by the hack and slash of the game and slinging staff attacks as if they were bolts of arrows into a terror / rage / pride demon. 

 

He makes an appearance in The Masked Empire too incase you didn't know, and does some pretty cool things.



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This thread was a wild ride. 

 

Honestly, there's a million and a half games and tv shows where we hear endlessly about the hetero romantic troubles. Whole legends are built around the idea of the heteros running off and getting married without the permission of the equally hetero families, and it destroys kingdoms. I'm required by school to read Romeo and Juliet and call it romantic (even though Bill fully intended it to be satire for his intended audience). HETERO AGENDA. :o

 

If I can sit through 20-something years of hearing that, y'all can sit through five minutes of Dorian being upset that his dad's a massive ******* and you can damn well call Krem 'he'. 

 

Nor do I need purple high-res breasts. I have developed object permanence, I know boobs are there even if I don't see them every moment. 


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This thread was a wild ride. 

 

Honestly, there's a million and a half games and tv shows where we hear endlessly about the hetero romantic troubles. Whole legends are built around the idea of the heteros running off and getting married without the permission of the equally hetero families, and it destroys kingdoms. I'm required by school to read Romeo and Juliet and call it romantic (even though Bill fully intended it to be satire for his intended audience). HETERO AGENDA. :o

 

If I can sit through 20-something years of hearing that, y'all can sit through five minutes of Dorian being upset that his dad's a massive ******* and you can damn well call Krem 'he'. 

 

Nor do I need purple high-res breasts. I have developed object permanence, I know boobs are there even if I don't see them every moment. 

Straight people are the norm. It is difficult to call it agenda, it is merely an orderly distribution of focus. It  is healthy and well suited for most of the people, unlike other, less fortunate constructs of ill willed minds(BioWare DA:I agenda).

 

His dad is a good man. His only fault was to botch the blood ritual. In fact, I'm surprised he did not send assassins after Dorian because he is nothing but shame stain on his family's lineage. And no, there should be option to call her 'her'. It is intrusive, immersion breaking and downright wrong to force players to call woman 'man'.


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Ok stuff like the Broodmother is dark but I really don't see why Desire Demons are darker than any other type of demon. Unless boobs = dark now? Beside there was a desire demon in DA:I. Thats what Ishmael was.


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Why one thing is not enough, when the brood mothers are also one thing and it appears sufficient for you?

Just an example dude. The darkspawn in general were pretty neat and twisted, we got a lot of cinematics showing off their models etc... in DAI the darkspawn are just little soldiers with no cinematics, and the standard archer, light warrior, heavy warrior with guard. No variation, same classes as the elves in the temple or the templars or the venatori.

But no, if you're happy with one or two interesting creatures in the whole game, good for you then, I guess?

I miss more personal encounters. 



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Ok stuff like the Broodmother is dark but I really don't see why Desire Demons are darker than any other type of demon. Unless boobs = dark now? Beside there was a desire demon in DA:I. Thats what Ishmael was.

There is nothing dark about Desire Demons. I might be wrong but I think it is connected with the ;objectification of women' or something like that, I have seen it several times posted by the strong willed, independent womyn. On the other hand Desire Demons would stand out considering rather poor beauty of in game females. It is bordering turpism, but I guess it(turpism) might be a synonym for 'realistic womyn' and I'm willing to agree. 

Or they would make Desire Demons as ugly as the rest of females in the game. I would rather prefer to avoid that.

 

Whole game should be much more darker with blood and gore flying around. Maybe it is just the advancement of graphics, but DA:O was gritty, I could feel the meat.



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Ok stuff like the Broodmother is dark but I really don't see why Desire Demons are darker than any other type of demon. Unless boobs = dark now? Beside there was a desire demon in DA:I. Thats what Ishmael was.

Fine, let's go with mature then... they were notable, kind of gross, but cool. All the bad guys in DAI were cookie cutter versions of eahc other, every heavy enemy is the same, guard when they do the three swing attack. Same for elves, same for humans, same for darkspawn. Most of the bosses you don't know are bosses until they're half dead... there was no question in DAI when you were facing a boss. You got cinematics and conversation, not just a codex entry and extra hit points.

DAI is much more PC, which is very strange for a company that has always sort of pushed the limits just a bit.



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There is nothing dark about Desire Demons. I might be wrong but I think it is connected with the ;objectification of women' or something like that, I have seen it several times posted by the strong willed, independent womyn. On the other hand Desire Demons would stand out considering rather poor beauty of in game females. It is bordering turpism, but I guess it(turpism) might be a synonym for 'realistic womyn' and I'm willing to agree. 

Or they would make Desire Demons as ugly as the rest of females in the game. I would rather prefer to avoid that.

 

Whole game should be much more darker with blood and gore flying around. Maybe it is just the advancement of graphics, but DA:O was gritty, I could feel the meat.

I also miss the splatter. Conversations just don't feel the same... less "dragon agey" somehow. Splatter on the armor just doesn't do it.



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ishmael isn't a desire demon, just an yfi, he just copies the form of others also known as a "spirit of choice".



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The second Lirik started streaming the game on twitch, he called it. "This does not feel like a dragon age game, it feels like an MMO." He even called it and said it wasn't a go

 

There is nothing dark about Desire Demons. I might be wrong but I think it is connected with the ;objectification of women' or something like that, I have seen it several times posted by the strong willed, independent womyn. On the other hand Desire Demons would stand out considering rather poor beauty of in game females. It is bordering turpism, but I guess it(turpism) might be a synonym for 'realistic womyn' and I'm willing to agree. 

Or they would make Desire Demons as ugly as the rest of females in the game. I would rather prefer to avoid that.

 

Whole game should be much more darker with blood and gore flying around. Maybe it is just the advancement of graphics, but DA:O was gritty, I could feel the meat.

 

There is if people care for it. Did you come across the desire demon in the mage tower? She charmed a templar into believing his family never truly died. If you killed her, you'd take away his false illusion and happiness and if you left her alone, he'd forever be her thrall.

 

Choice. Spirit.. Was more creepy in a subtle way. A dying red templar chose death over being the guy's .. well, you know where i'm going with this.

 

Desire demons can be dark, it's just people see boobs and they trivialize it and not its actions.



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The second Lirik started streaming the game on twitch, he called it. "This does not feel like a dragon age game, it feels like an MMO." He even called it and said it wasn't a go

 

 

There is if people care for it. Did you come across the desire demon in the mage tower? She charmed a templar into believing his family never truly died. If you killed her, you'd take away his false illusion and happiness and if you left her alone, he'd forever be her thrall.

 

Choice. Spirit.. Was more creepy in a subtle way. A dying red templar chose death over being the guy's .. well, you know where i'm going with this.

 

Desire demons can be dark, it's just people see boobs and they trivialize it and not its actions.

Well, personally I would not call this 'dark', but yes, they were entertaining bunch and I would like to see them again.