Of course breast are PG-13, if the scene is short, breasts are not touched and done in a tasteful way.
The game includes some sexual material: (..) characters depicted topless or with exposed buttocks while lying in bed or after sex;
The official explanation behind rating for DAI was quoted more than once. Most recently couple posts ago in this very thread.ITT: people think they know what deserves a rating because it has that rating, but won't and can't explain it.
DA:I does not deserve an M rating.
Well, I know you are but what am I? Great rhetoric!
Of course breast are PG-13, if the scene is short, breasts are not touched and done in a tasteful way. The sexual/psycological abuse must be shown, otherwise it is considered, inferred.
You are not winning this argument. What you personally think is "Mature" does not matter in the end. That is a subjective taste. Stop pronouncing it like it's a truth, and ignoring the fact that you have no control over the ones who made it so at the ESRB.
Simply put, the ESRB named it mature based on what they saw and played. So at this point, there is nothing else to say. You are simply wrong in your assertions that it is not mature because you said so. Disagree all you want, don't state it like a fact though.
Funny, it's almost like the people who do the ratings have different view about this. And the context apparently matters.
It's almost like the people who do the ratings played a different game.
The official explanation behind rating for DAI was quoted more than once. Most recently couple posts ago in this very thread.
Don't worry about that, I'll post'em right here, for your viewing pleasure:
Cutscenes sometimes depict characters impaled or getting their throats slit.Violent sequences are often highlighted by cries of pain, gurgling/gushing sounds, and large blood-splatter effects; blood remains on the ground in several environments. The game includes some sexual material: a female character briefly depicted in front of a man's torso (fellatio is implied); characters depicted topless or with exposed buttocks while lying in bed or after sex; some dialogue referencing sex/sexuality (e.g., “'I will bring myself sexual pleasure later, while thinking about this with great respect'” and “The way your t*ts bounce when I pin your arms and take you on the side of the bed…”). The words “f**k,” “sh*t,” and “a*shole” appear in dialogue.
http://www.esrb.org/...ge: Inquisition
There are no cutscenes where characters are shown to be impaled or getting their throats slit, this is done off camera.
Blood never remains on the ground in any environment. I miss that.
There are "bad" words used, gratuitously and rather immaturely. It deserves a stupid rating for that, but not M.
All the sexual content is listed in the above quote.
This guy lol
ITT: some guy accidentally posts on BSN and not 4chan
The amount of breasts, sexual and psychological abuse, torture, death and destruction says otherwise.
I always find it odd what people think is and isn't mature...it's...just strange.
Hardly any breast in DA:I. Never seen any yet. Didn't see much abuse either. Seen plenty of death, but none with so much as a drop of blood.
It is on the same maturity scale as MacGyver, or The A-Team.
You are not winning this argument. What you personally think is "Mature" does not matter in the end. That is a subjective taste. Stop pronouncing it like it's a truth, and ignoring the fact that you have no control over the ones who made it so at the ESRB.
Simply put, the ESRB named it mature based on what they saw and played. So at this point, there is nothing else to say. You are simply wrong in your assertions that it is not mature because you said so. Disagree all you want, don't state it like a fact though.
ITT: people will completely miss the point of arguments, by assuming that when two people argue, one must be right and the other wrong - and that the argument can be "won".
This game is PG-13 material, but it is rated M.
Hardly any breast in DA:I. Never seen any yet. Didn't see much abuse either. Seen plenty of death, but none with so much as a drop of blood.
It is on the same maturity scale as MacGyver, or The A-Team.
Are you serious Rawgrim?
PM me, i'll send a video as evidence if you care, don't want to post a spoiler here.
I saw the Leliana "torture". Where the badguys found it effective to torture her while she was in full armour.
ITT: people will completely miss the point of arguments, by assuming that when two people argue, one must be right and the other wrong - and that the argument can be "won".
This game is PG-13 material, but it is rated M.
Now completely dodging the topic at hand to make a point about argumentation and rhetoric theory.
You missed the point I made before, your opinion is not relevant to the point itself, and saying it as if it were a fact does not make you right. Simple as that.
I saw the Leliana "torture". Where the badguys found it effective to torture her while she was in full armour.
I meant the nudity and the like, or the scene with Dorian and how he admits his father psychologically abused/therapied him.
I meant the nudity and the like, or the scene with Dorian and how he admits his father psychologically abused/therapied him.
Sure there might be 1-2 examples of mature\dark bits in the game. But its not even close to DA:O or even DA2, when it comes to stuff like that.
DA:I made the series generic. Simple as that. Its like some pop music thingy. All about looks and being popular for a few weeks, and after that its just forgettable.
ITT: some guy accidentally posts on BSN and not 4chan
Sure there might be 1-2 examples of mature\dark bits in the game. But its not even close to DA:O or even DA2, when it comes to stuff like that.
DA:I made the series generic. Simple as that. Its like some pop music thingy. All about looks and being popular for a few weeks, and after that its just forgettable.
So I guess that's a no then?
If we are really going to make that argument, how mature is the nudity and the inferred acts in Origins? Or the geysers of blood that cake on your body while you casually talk to people about their feelings?
This is why I disagree with that notion. I will say Dragon Age II is still more mature in context than Origins and Inquisition, although Inquisition deals with some more complex themes, mostly political and religious. But to say it's not close to "dark" or "mature" themes is kind of missing the point, honestly. Makes me wonder, again, what people actually consider "mature".
I rail on the Witcher for being a caricature of maturity, but it does have moments of good moral complexity to that. That is where maturity comes from, or should in my opinion, and Dragon Age always has that aspect to it, id say.
Did the presentation make Inquisition generic...not to me at least. That is again a subjective preference.
So why are you on BSN then?
This guy lol
The only thing I feel oppressed by in DA:I is the lack of a tactics system.
padump-tish.
This is the true face of oppression in DA:I.
I would romance the Dragon Age 2 tactics system, if Bioware recognised my needs and desires as valid.
No. You don't even have basic decency to use the correct pronouns for someone. You don't deserve an actual response. I hope you never become a parent.
It is not called 'decency' when you are forced into participation in agendas with no option to deny them.
No, it's like the people who do the ratings rate what they saw differently than you do. And since at the end of the day it's their opinion that decides the rating and not yours, trying to argue it is silly and pointless.It's almost like the people who do the ratings played a different game.
No, it's like the people who do the ratings rate what they saw differently than you do.
Oh yes, they saw things that don't exist, like "blood remains on the ground in several environments".
Blood never remains on the ground, in any environment. I don't have to share their opinion on reality, do I?
I really wish the combat mechanics could be fixed by just adding boobs to it...
I really wish the combat mechanics could be fixed by just adding boobs to it...
They almost did. The combat movements are bouncing all over the place.
I really wish the combat mechanics could be fixed by just adding boobs to it...
2/10
Oh yes, they saw things that don't exist, like "blood remains on the ground in several environments".
Blood never remains on the ground, in any environment. I don't have to share their opinion on reality, do I?
Did anyone else notice the massive Desire Demon carving when you go into the Fade to face the Nightmare?
If you prefer your version of reality and try hard enough you can pretend there's no blood on the ground in that screenshot, sure.
Well in my reality the word "remains" means that blood was added to the ground, when before there was none. Like after a fight.. Set decorations which could be raspberry jam for all we know, is not blood which remains on the ground.
Besides, how do you know that's blood? Apart from being red (which it wouldn't be after being on the ground for more than a few seconds) it doesn't react to anything, you can step in it and nothing happens, you never saw how it appeared or where it came from.
Oh that Mature! No that's fricking PG-13
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