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I miss desire demons and brood mothers. Bioware used to be a lot darker. Grittier is a better word. Creepier.


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But this game has actual boobs. That makes it mature and adult, right? I heard that on the BSN.

Origins' bland art direction and expansive rainbow of brown was one of it's biggest faults. Having more than 2 colors doesn't turn a game into Mario Sunshine.


I dunno. Agree it was bland. But the same time it created a....primal atmosphere (lack of better words.) Was raw, natural, dirty, and somehow grittier because of that.

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Feels like a Michael Bay movie with a boob shot snuck into it during editing.


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I dunno. Agree it was bland. But the same time it created a....primal atmosphere (lack of better words.) Was raw, natural, dirty, and somehow grittier because of that.

Origins wasn't about boobs, the broodmother wasn't sexy, neither was the desire demon. They were twisted and creepy. The content was a lot darker, like the guys hanging from the logs in the kocori wilds, or the torture chamber in denerim (this was back when dragon age included actual cities, of course).

Inquisiiton tlaks about this horrible war, but we never see any hint of the fallout. A flaming house here, nothing to suggest the world isn't happy and filled with rainbows.

Origins was funny and light at times, but the setting was a lot more grim. Like a war.


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While I'm all for DDD (Desire Demon Diversity), DDwD (Desire Demons with Dongs) would not be the equivalent of DDwT (Desire Demons with T!ts). You know, primary, secondary, all that. I'm hoping that DDD would also allow DiDD (Divine Desire Demons) at some point, because honestly, why do all demons have to be DeDD (Devilish Desire Demons). We should respect their DDDi (Desire Demon Direction), not just lump them all together.

 

I'm out of D... err... Ds now. *throws away keyboard*

The male desire demon could have been awesome... but he was just a guy, who appeared as demons you'd already seen over and over and over again. There was nothing unique about him. And what he offered sucks, there was nothing there in terms of a tough decision.

They should have given us a real choice, a heavy one.


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the witch in Show white is much creepier than Corypheus, grim and dark pretty much went out the window



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I love desire demons - the quote in my sig is from a desire demon. But what I love about desire demons is their nuance, and how morally grey their temptations often are. Doesn't matter what form they choose to appear in. They could be hovering orange spheres and they'd still be my favorite type of demon.

Imshael scratched that itch for me. If the inquisitor had fought him and died, the world would have been hosed. That's a huge risk to take in order to kill one demon.

The only consequence is that he kills Ser Michel. Well, of course he kills the person who's been trying to kill him (unprovoked, I might add) since they first met! A normal human would do that too. In fact, the Turning the Tables questline in the very same region is about a human doing the same.

Minus the red lyrium operation, everything Imshael has done has been some flavor of self-defense. People remember that he killed an entire Dalish clan, but they bound him first. Binding, as in the thing that's so traumatic it can change spirits' very nature.

Even ignoring all that, Imshael is like the Br'er Rabbit of demons. Oh no, Ser Michel, don't destroy those stones! That would hurt me! Trying to kill him seems like the sort of decision that could have unintended consequences. ;)

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Origins wasn't about boobs, the broodmother wasn't sexy, neither was the desire demon. They were twisted and creepy. The content was a lot darker, like the guys hanging from the logs in the kocori wilds, or the torture chamber in denerim (this was back when dragon age included actual cities, of course).

Inquisiiton tlaks about this horrible war, but we never see any hint of the fallout. A flaming house here, nothing to suggest the world isn't happy and filled with rainbows.

Origins was funny and light at times, but the setting was a lot more grim. Like a war.


Uhh.. she's not?

Oops. :rolleyes:



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Origins wasn't about boobs, the broodmother wasn't sexy, neither was the desire demon. They were twisted and creepy. The content was a lot darker, like the guys hanging from the logs in the kocori wilds, or the torture chamber in denerim (this was back when dragon age included actual cities, of course).

Inquisiiton tlaks about this horrible war, but we never see any hint of the fallout. A flaming house here, nothing to suggest the world isn't happy and filled with rainbows.

Origins was funny and light at times, but the setting was a lot more grim. Like a war.

 

It's a difference in emphasis for me. The emotional, human story approach is fine when you're focusing on small, important things. When you start to look at big, important things it disappears in the logistical nightmare. Grimness in that context stops being the terrible fate of Mr and Mrs Nesbitt down t'mill and starts being the fact you lost the bloody mill.


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I dunno. Agree it was bland. But the same time it created a....primal atmosphere (lack of better words.) Was raw, natural, dirty, and somehow grittier because of that.

This. Everyone thinks from the title I just want boobs, but come on, the brood mother wasn't attractive. She was uncomfortable, gross, twisted. Her story was the same thing.

There's no enemy like that in inquisition. There's no tone like that. We're todl there's a war, but nothing in DAi is anywhere close to as dark as the feel of ostagar and the wilds... that felt more like a war, like there was a threat.


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There is a desire demon in the Fade, its a statue, seems they may bring her back becouse the new design show the niples slited off (as in nippleless), and since nipples is what censors consider erotic, that means they can bring the character in the new game. tbroodmothers tought.....problably not coming back.



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I hope you're wrong. Brood mothers are gross and neat. And you can't have darkspawn without them. The darkspawn are the most twisted bioware creation and I want to see more of them, and not the lame little soldiers in DAI.

Real darkspawn. Introduced well and skin crawling.

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I'm only sad that the desire demon we did get in DAI was just a guy in some fancy outfit. He should have been shirtless, muscular and sinisterly sexy IMO :P


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I have to say I agree.

As much as I love Inquisition, and boy oh boy do I love Inquisition, it is not at all a "Dark Fantasy RPG," as Origins and even DA2 were. It's just a,well, regular fantasy RPG.



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I'm only sad that the desire demon we did get in DAI was just a guy in some fancy outfit. He should have been shirtless, muscular and sinisterly sexy IMO :P

Plus his demon form is just the same old forms that come out of the rifts... like "Ooooooh, a rage demon. How exotic".


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Plus his demon form is just the same old forms that come out of the rifts... like "Ooooooh, a rage demon. How exotic".

Yea I was disappointed -_-



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or the torture chamber in denerim (this was back when dragon age included actual cities, of course).
 

 

Wait, we're qualifying Denerim as a city? 


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Wait, we're qualifying Denerim as a city? 

Yes we are. It wasn't open world or anything, but at least we got to see several sections of it. There were actual NPCs there too.

Go to Val royeaux, one screen to freely explore outside of missions. Maybe 5% the size of denerim when all is said and done. And go to any of the main maps except for hinterlands, not counting cut and paste mobs and your own 3-4 camp soldiers per camp, I defy you to find 30 people in the entire area. Hissing wastes... is there a single actual npc with dialogue? I don't recall one.
 

Dragon age inquisition: The RPG without npcs.


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Don't forget, Bioware also removed Brothels from the game.

 

Regarding Brothels,

 

I've always roleplayed characters that are against the solicitation of prostitution.  However, that doesn't mean you should remove the brothel from the game.  Bioware should've added a Brothel in Inquisition, but then give you a quest that lets you shut down the brothel based upon how poorly the women are treated or something.  Let the player decide if they want to solicit prositution or be against it and shut the place down. Choices make a great RPG, not just taking something like a brothel out of the game.


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the witch in Show white is much creepier than Corypheus, grim and dark pretty much went out the window

I liked corypheus, his design was solid... but his design wasn't even done for DAI, it was DA2, and we had renaimated stitched up corpses, the TOTALLY awesome arishok and qunari designs (which sadly bioware has apparently thrown away), and a lot of other cool designs in that game.

I enjoyed the archdemon, the dragons, and the demon in the fade, but nothing else new was particularly intimidating. Especially the rift demons, same few varietys, no variation.... not super exciting, really.



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I honestly don't see how DAI is "lighter" than previous titles.

 

Heck, I just got done reassembling the severed body parts of a dead elf priest in a temple......

 

As for some of the other nonsense in this thread, Bioware is a progressive company.  Always has been.  If you don't like it, go to one of the 99% of game developers who cater exclusively to straight white males. 



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I can't believe people still bang on about a "gay agenda" in 2015. We should be past this.
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I choose to believe that the OP's request of "grittier" means "more white athletes".

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I'm only sad that the desire demon we did get in DAI was just a guy in some fancy outfit. He should have been shirtless, muscular and sinisterly sexy IMO :P

I think the male demon if he's been similar to the female ones could have been seriously intimidating in his natural form. Sad we never got to see it.

Tim Curry in legend would have been a better desire demon. He was badass.



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Sylvans would be nice to see in Dragon 3 or a DLC. I Find there is less Creatures in Dragon Age 3 there is some that don't show on wiki like the Skeletons from Origins.


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Sylvans would be nice to see in Dragon 3 or a DLC. I Find there is less Creatures in Dragon Age 3 there is some that don't show on wiki like the Skeletons from Origins.

I actually miss origins version of raise the dead, esp with spell might for the combo. They were pretty neat, I find myself really wishing I had them rather then those purple necro spriits that are so ineffective.