Actually, that conversation is a bit different if you romance him.
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I don't know, my reaction was "That was...10 years...?". Or maybe it's just because at that moment my Inquisitor got a little jealous of my Warden
No . That people are so focused on LI in games .I like it too, but it's such a small part of the game . And it'll be even smaller in the next DA game .Why? Because of this love-sick fanbase of ours. I'll bet BioWare curses the day that even introduced LIs into their RPG games. After Mass and DA are both done that might be the end of the whole LI thing.
Actually, BioWare has had romances/LIs in their games since Baldur's Gate 2, back in September 2000, and that was their 3rd game ever, and 2nd RPG ever.
I'm pretty sure you'll never be convinced no matter what we place before you . Read his wikia page.
Yeah, I saw that version too, but I'm not quite sure what you mean. Isn't he just saying he'd given up on love, until he met the Inquisitor?
Yeah, that's how I interpret that line too. It's like saying, "I had a crush on her back when I young and I haven't felt that way about woman until recently. <wink, wink>"
I don't think that it indicates that Cullen had a crush on the Warden until recently. I think the opposite, in fact.
Yeah, that's how I interpret that line too. It's like saying, "I had a crush on her back when I young and I haven't felt that way about woman until recently. <wink, wink>"
I don't think that it indicates that Cullen had a crush on the Warden until recently. I think the opposite, in fact.
Yeah pretty much how I saw it too.
Yeah, I saw that version too, but I'm not quite sure what you mean. Isn't he just saying he'd given up on love, until he met the Inquisitor?
His answer wasn't what I expected because I never gave this Cullen/Warden thing much thought.
He already said he was serious for the Inquisitor. And now he implies that he had that same feeling for the Warden. So, he was actually serious back then? That kind of feeling can linger, especially after he almost screamed like a lunatic that all mages should be killed when that one particular mage was in fact there to rescue him.
I guess it's easy for many people to say "Well, that was a looong time ago, now I care about you more than anyone", but maybe not so easy in Cullen's case. Guilt intensifies emotions and memories. I didn't take his "crush" in DA:O seriously, now I feel sorry for him.
Of course this is only my interpretation 
Cullen is a nut. Anyone that goes out into the countryside and starts killing everyone he can find because you saved the mages is kind of crazy.
Actually, that conversation is a bit different if you romance him.
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I don't know, my reaction was "That was...10 years...?". Or maybe it's just because at that moment my Inquisitor got a little jealous of my Warden
His answer wasn't what I expected because I never gave this Cullen/Warden thing much thought.
He already said he was serious for the Inquisitor. And now he implies that he had that same feeling for the Warden. So, he was actually serious back then? That kind of feeling can linger, especially after he almost screamed like a lunatic that all mages should be killed when that one particular mage was in fact there to rescue him.
I guess it's easy for many people to say "Well, that was a looong time ago, now I care about you more than anyone", but maybe not so easy in Cullen's case. Guilt intensifies emotions and memories. I didn't take his "crush" in DA:O seriously, now I feel sorry for him.
Of course this is only my interpretation
I hope Bioware NEVER takes out the love interest side of their games. 'Tis one of the reasons why I love their games! Yep I'll admit I love a good romance story. I'm a girl who also likes chick flicks and who has also been with my partner now for over 15 years and we have an adorable little 5 yr old. That doesn't stop me enjoying the romance sides of these games.
I am surprised to read in this thread that Cullen's romance was a last minute decision of sorts because it's one of the best bioware romances to date. There are specific sexual orientated characters in this game and I like it this way to be honest. It's more real. I'll never get to do a Dorian romance because I always play a female character, I never did feel comfortable playing a male character. I'm okay with that though.
Can't believe my thread was closed and this is still up.
Cullen is straight. He's been straight for the last 3 games. If the developers wanted him to be attracted to men, we would've seen signs of this in the Dragon Age universe. But he's not. Suck it up or go to the adult section of deviant art.
Seriously, what is wrong with a character just being straight? If you want to romance him that much, go buy Sims and make babies with him.
Cullen was mentally unstable. For a little while. He isn't now. Also, he went on a rampage because he saw mages in the tower become demons and kill his templar friends. He was also held hostage by a desire demon and tormented for however long. Certainly there is a high degree of post traumatic stress that he's been trying to recover from.Cullen is a nut. Anyone that goes out into the countryside and starts killing everyone he can find because you saved the mages is kind of crazy.
Okay now I have to save the mages just because. Lol
Actually, that conversation is a bit different if you romance him.
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I don't know, my reaction was "That was...10 years...?". Or maybe it's just because at that moment my Inquisitor got a little jealous of my Warden
I suppose everyone headcanons it differently, but I interpreted that a bit differently. I always saw it as him finally coming to terms with his feelings for the Warden, since he used to be ashamed of it. Considering during the end of DA:O and DA:2 he was a bit of a mage hater, he probably had a hard time coming to terms with the fact that he used to have romantic feelings for a mage and then after stopping taking lyrium (Is it different if he still takes it?), he was finally able to let go of his hatred and accept the fact that he did have feelings for her. I like to think that his feelings diminished soon after the events of DA:O, but he now looks back fondly on his old crush instead of being ashamed of it in DA:I.
It's open for interpretation, which is a good thing, but I really hope he doesn't still have feelings for my female mage after 10 years. I found it a bit surprising that he compared his feelings for the Inquisitor with his feelings for Amell/Surana during his romance, since that implies that he loved the Warden. Undermines my Inquisitor a bit too, especially since my canon Warden Mage, who was anti-templar and anti-circle would have never returned his feelings (especially after having him scream at her to kill all the mages in the Circle quest).
He's calling it an infatuation. That's not a particularly deep feeling - it's just a fancy way of saying crush.
Yes he did call it an infatuation, then he compared that to his feelings for the Inquisitor. Like you said, clumsy flirt. But considering my Warden never thought much about it, it implies that feeling means much more to him than to her, which surprised me. I'd thought it was something quickly dismissed right after his ordeal in the tower.
The epilogues for DAO, especially those pertaining to the boons granted by Alistair/Anora, have repeatedly been declared rumors and nothing more. I'm almost positive that Gaider has said outright that the crown was overridden when they attempted to free the Circle and since that's why Cullen ends up going "crazy" (as opposed to suffering PTSD, which I think is very much part of his character arc), murder!Cullen never actually happened.
Yes he did call it an infatuation, then he compared that to his feelings for the Inquisitor. Like you said, clumsy flirt. But considering my Warden never thought much about it, it implies that feeling means much more to him than to her, which surprised me. I'd thought it was something quickly dismissed right after his ordeal in the tower.
Well, the Warden also saves Cullen and the tower, and she is a figure that casts a long shadow in Thedas. Look at how Dagna talks about the Warden who helps her go to the Circle. Cullen's feelings for the Warden were far more complicated, and his last interaction with her absolutely terrible (she saved him and he dehumanized her then demanded she kill her fellow mages because mages are terrible). She is on his mind because she's unavoidable, and given that his arc in DAI is one of recovery, I find it realistic that he would be addressing his feelings for what they were (an infatuation that could have never went anywhere) and wanting closure of some sort for an incident that he regrets.
I suppose everyone headcanons it differently, but I interpreted that a bit differently. I always saw it as him finally coming to terms with his feelings for the Warden, since he used to be ashamed of it. Considering during the end of DA:O and DA:2 he was a bit of a mage hater, he probably had a hard time coming to terms with the fact that he used to have romantic feelings for a mage and then after stopping taking lyrium (Is it different if he still takes it?), he was finally able to let go of his hatred and accept the fact that he did have feelings for her. I like to think that his feelings diminished soon after the events of DA:O, but he now looks back fondly on his old crush instead of being ashamed of it in DA:I.
It's open for interpretation, which is a good thing, but I really hope he doesn't still have feelings for my female mage after 10 years. I found it a bit surprising that he compared his feelings for the Inquisitor with his feelings for Amell/Surana during his romance, since that implies that he loved the Warden. Undermines my Inquisitor a bit too, especially since my canon Warden Mage, who was anti-templar and anti-circle would have never returned his feelings (especially after having him scream at her to kill all the mages in the Circle quest).
I guess it has something to do with my playthrough.
I imported a worldstate in which my Warden sacrificed herself. I didn't expect people to talk much about her. After 10 years, the best way to honor her is to protect what she sarcrificed for. Yet Cullen is the only one who offered some details from a personal perspective. I wasn't prepared for that. It made me think about how my Warden treated him, which was...not very amiable. Then it occurred to me that he might be actually serious about it. After all, demons mocked him with things dear to him, like the life of his friends, the honor of his Order, and...the Warden.
In a word, I misjudged him and underestimated his feelings for my Warden. I am glad my Inquisitor can finally give him some peace.
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