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#76
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LOL...what? In all of the games it indicates that he is and always was straight . Same with Alistair and Morrigan.

Cullen never states what his sexuality is. Having a crush on a female circle mage does not make him straight.

 

 

Isn't the fostbite un-moddable  anyway. 

Nope. I have quite a few mods on mine. Texture, armor and weapon mods. Modding is still new though but every time I go to Nexus I see a new mod up so people are working hard.


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LOL...what? In all of the games it indicates that he is and always was straight . Same with Alistair and Morrigan.

It doesn't indicate he's straight, it just indicates that he is attracted to female Amells and Suranas and willing to pursue a romance with female Lavellans and Trevelyans. We have no idea what his criteria are for romantic or sexual attraction, nor do we know the limits. Assuming that he would never be attracted to a man simply because he's not explicitly attracted to any male Warden or Inquisitor is short-sighted- unless you know things about his sexuality that neither he nor his writers have shared. Otherwise, until he or his writer states that Cullen is canonically straight, the possibility that he is bisexual still exists.


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Cullen never states what his sexuality is. Having a crush on a female circle mage does not make him straight.

 

 

Nope. I have quite a few mods on mine. Texture, armor and weapon mods. Modding is still new though but every time I go to Nexus I see a new mod up so people are working hard.

 

For one it was more than a crush . Crushes don't last 10 years. Two it never needed to be stated ,it was heavily implied. I in all three games he shows zero interest in men . A mod or headcanon is the best you can hope for.



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So, Cullen just came right in here and showed me that thread, all annoyed again. He asked me to post a reply on his behalf ... so here we go ...

 



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It doesn't indicate he's straight, it just indicates that he is attracted to female Amells and Suranas and willing to pursue a romance with female Lavellans and Trevelyans. We have no idea what his criteria are for romantic or sexual attraction, nor do we know the limits. Assuming that he would never be attracted to a man simply because he's not explicitly attracted to any male Warden or Inquisitor is short-sighted- unless you know things about his sexuality that neither he nor his writers have shared. Otherwise, until he or his writer states that Cullen is canonically straight, the possibility that he is bisexual still exists.

 

Even if David Gaider himself popped in and wrote in big bold red letters .Stating  .That Cullen was ,and always has been straight .(Worded differently of course )

We would still get threads like this with people like yourself holding on tight to false hope .

 

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Abraham Lincoln was gay. 


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Does it really matter? It's really been stated that no more romances will be patched or dlc. We need that frozen let it go gif up in here.

Just wait for mods or create a female.
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Abraham Lincoln was gay. 

 

You are referring to "Electric Six - Gaybar"? Right? I don't wanna plaster the thread with music-vids though ^^



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Even if David Gaider himself popped in and wrote in big bold red letters .Stating  .That Cullen was ,and always has been straight .(Worded differently of course )

We would still get threads like this with people like yourself holding on tight to false hope .

 

 

Yeah, it is not a false hope of mine that he's bisexual. I'm fortunate that I can romance him with my preferred type of character, nbd, and if Gaider or anyone said that he was canonically straight, I'd shrug and hope for representation elsewhere. I'm just addressing the assumption that you have made that don't actually hold up to rl scrutiny AND that is commonly used to shut down discussions of anything beyond compulsory heterosexuality. The absence of expressed attraction to men does not preclude a man from experiencing attraction to men, just as an expressed attraction to women does not make a man straight. It is up to the character/creator to define their own sexuality, if they choose to do so. Cullen has not, despite having had an opportunity to do so when dealing with an interested male Inquisitor or female Adaar or Cadash (unlike Cassandra, who shuts down a female Inquisitor specifically because she's a woman :(). 



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At this point I'm hoping Gaider will step in and put these foolish discussions and assumptions to rest. 



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Yeah, it is not a false hope of mine that he's bisexual. I'm fortunate that I can romance him with my preferred type of character, nbd, and if Gaider or anyone said that he was canonically straight, I'd shrug and hope for representation elsewhere. I'm just addressing the assumption that you have made that don't actually hold up to rl scrutiny AND that is commonly used to shut down discussions of anything beyond compulsory heterosexuality. The absence of expressed attraction to men does not preclude a man from experiencing attraction to men, just as an expressed attraction to women does not make a man straight. It is up to the character/creator to define their own sexuality, if they choose to do so. Cullen has not, despite having had an opportunity to do so when dealing with an interested male Inquisitor or female Adaar or Cadash (unlike Cassandra, who shuts down a female Inquisitor specifically because she's a woman :(). 

 

I might be not getting this right, but Cullen does rejects male IQ, unless you mean that he doesn't say specifically why?

 

i think in his case him being gated played a more crucial role in this, BW would be between rock and a hard place had they tried to make Cullen say that  he is not attracted to Dwarfs and Qunari (especially dwarfs) and so they kept it uniform.



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He already did. When asked on Twitter he replied that characters have to justify being straight now? When fans were angrily badgering him for an answer. But ya know, people see and believe what they want too.
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He already did. When asked on Twitter he replied that characters have to justify being straight now? When fans were angrily badgering him for an answer. But ya know, people see and believe what they want too.

I see that now...



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I might be not getting this right, but Cullen does rejects male IQ, unless you mean that he doesn't say specifically why?

 

i think in his case him being gated played a more crucial role in this, BW would be between rock and a hard place had they tried to make Cullen say that  he is not attracted to Dwarfs and Qunari (especially dwarfs) and so they kept it uniform.

 

Yeah, he rejects them but he doesn't say "I'm not attracted to you". And it could very well be just that, a way for them to avoid dealing with the race gating. However, they could have just as easily removed the option to flirt with him (like they do with Solas). 

 

And, seriously, I'm not someone who needs a ****** notarized piece of paper that says "this character is straight". It's just that, after the reveal that they had intended for Cullen to be bisexual before things didn't work out, the prevailing justification for his heterosexuality was that he hasn't expressed interest in men before. And, after Andersgate and, to a lesser extent, people complaining about Kaidan, I can see why they'd want to avoid that entire can of worms. However, I find the attitude frustrating and unnecessary due to what I've been saying all along in this thread- sexuality is not always something that comes fully formed the moment you become sexually mature. It develops over time, and it would have been interesting to see that in the game rather than a reinforcement of the "if a dude isn't actually having sex with men and women they are straight" assumption that plagued discussion about Anders' sexuality. 



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Yeah, he rejects them but he doesn't say "I'm not attracted to you". And it could very well be just that, a way for them to avoid dealing with the race gating. However, they could have just as easily removed the option to flirt with him (like they do with Solas). 

 

And, seriously, I'm not someone who needs a ****** notarized piece of paper that says "this character is straight". It's just that, after the reveal that they had intended for Cullen to be bisexual before things didn't work out, the prevailing justification for his heterosexuality was that he hasn't expressed interest in men before. And, after Andersgate and, to a lesser extent, people complaining about Kaidan, I can see why they'd want to avoid that entire can of worms. However, I find the attitude frustrating and unnecessary due to what I've been saying all along in this thread- sexuality is not always something that comes fully formed the moment you become sexually mature. It develops over time, and it would have been interesting to see that in the game rather than a reinforcement of the "if a dude isn't actually having sex with men and women they are straight" assumption that plagued discussion about Anders' sexuality. 

They said that it didn't fit his character just deal with it. Cullen is straight and I don't think that the writers should have to come up with a reason as to why he is straight. They considered making him bi but it didn't fit in with his character so they didn't so just drop it. I wouldn't want them to make Dorian bi just because.


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I feel some people are missing DA2 too much with its bi sexual utopia



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Cullen never states what his sexuality is. Having a crush on a female circle mage does not make him straight.

 

 

 

 

Neither does Morrigan, Alistair, Sebastion, etc. It's just assumed.

 

You never see people going around proclaiming their straightness. It's just not something people "come out" to in the same way that people who are bi, gay, lesbian, etc. do. 

 

If Cullen was meant to be bisexual all a long, then I'm positive that they would have had him crush on a male Amell/Surana too, because why not? But he's not, he's only ever expressed interest in females. He doesn't even like the more masculine female races (Dwarves/Qunari). The devs decided this too when they decided to not make him bisexual. It just doesn't work for this character. 

 

People really need to just accept this. I mean, I would love to romance Dorian and Cassandra with a female character, but I can't. Their characters were written in a way that only made them attracted to men, and I accept this and love them regardless. I wouldn't want them to turn bisexual *just because*. 


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Neither does Morrigan, Alistair, Sebastion, etc. It's just assumed.

 

You never see people going around proclaiming their straightness. It's just not something people "come out" to in the same way that people who are bi, gay, lesbian, etc. do. 

 

If Cullen was meant to be bisexual all a long, then I'm positive that they would have had him crush on a male Amell/Surana too, because why not? But he's not, he's only ever expressed interest in females. He doesn't even like the more masculine female races (Dwarves/Qunari). The devs decided this too when they decided to not make him bisexual. It just doesn't work for this character. 

 

People really need to just accept this. I mean, I would love to romance Dorian and Cassandra with a female character, but I can't. Their characters were written in a way that only made them attracted to men, and I accept this and love them regardless. I wouldn't want them to turn bisexual *just because*. 

 

To gay-fans defense their "his interest in girls does not mean he was not interested in boys" well justified by previous BW games experience. Kaidan and Anders - both as straight as one can be in one game (romanced girls, talked about girls only, interested in girls only) both were turned into bi with exactly that explanation: "just because we did not show they were interested in men does not mean they were not". I am sure we can find plenty of posts from DG, for example, with that particular explanation.  


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If Cullen was bi he would have had a crush on your human male Mage too.

A person real or imaginary does not need to say their sexual preference, they can do that simply by how they act, dress etc.

Those who see Cullen as bi, your preference, I for think it's just plain stupid.
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OP, Cullen can certainly be gay. Just head over to the adult section of Deviant Art. You can probably get a bit of your fix there. 



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Abraham Lincoln was gay.


I thought he was lesbian?
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To gay-fans defense their "his interest in girls does not mean he was not interested in boys" well justified by previous BW games experience. Kaidan and Anders - both as straight as one can be in one game (romanced girls, talked about girls only, interested in girls only) both were turned into bi with exactly that explanation: "just because we did not show they were interested in men does not mean they were not". I am sure we can find plenty of posts from DG, for example, with that particular explanation.  

 

This is true. However, a lot of fans really disliked the sudden shift in Kaidan's and Ander's sexuality/personalities. It's retconning done to appease a group of fans that wanted more gay options. These are characters that were very obviously portrayed as straight in previous games, even if it was not explicitly stated, that were randomly changed without explanation in later titles. It makes no sense that Kaidan wouldn't be attracted to Shepard in ME1, but then suddenly become attracted to him in ME3.

 

It would be like if they decided to make Isabella only straight in DA2, despite her showing clear interest in both genders in DA:O. That would be pretty silly right?


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This is true. However, a lot of fans really disliked the sudden shift in Kaidan's and Ander's sexuality/personalities. It's retconning done to appease a group of fans that wanted more gay options. These are characters that were very obviously portrayed as straight in previous games, even if it was not explicitly stated, that were randomly changed without explanation in later titles. It makes no sense that Kaidan wouldn't be attracted to Shepard in ME1, but then suddenly become attracted to him in ME3.

 

It would be like if they decided to make Isabella only straight in DA2, despite her showing clear interest in both genders in DA:O. That would be pretty silly right?

 

Oh, you do not have to convince me - I was among those ... surprised, let's put it like this. I understand perfectly where it came from and why. But the argument itself is definitely came from developers too, and now straight characters DO have to openly declare their sexuality (though, I doubt it can help them). Developers themselves gave that weapon to the masses. 

Yet, there is a hope - "bi" is admitted (finally!) to be it's own type of sexuality and different from "hero-sexuality". Mb in the future everything will be a bit more clear from the start for every character.



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lol Why?  Angst is writer fuel.   Or, maybe it just gets old.  One of those.    

 

Sometimes I think the fans are actively working towards getting us all Dragon Age 4:  Cut to the Chaste - Moving from Thedas to the barren lands of Platonia.  Where no-one is attracted to anyone and no romantic relationships exist but the mood is stark, dark and depressing.  All your choices matter because you aren't given any.  But fear not! There is a brothel!  (Of course you basically just wander around it and admire the scenery because no-one living likes you and even the strawmen don't care, everyone loves the Maker alone or alternately tells you about their mom's preoccupation with furry aquatic mammals over tears and ale..)  Big hit, that one, just wait.     

 

:lol:

 

 

At this point I'm hoping Gaider will step in and put these foolish discussions and assumptions to rest. 



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For one it was more than a crush . Crushes don't last 10 years. Two it never needed to be stated ,it was heavily implied. I in all three games he shows zero interest in men . A mod or headcanon is the best you can hope for.


It didn't last 10 years. What makes you say that?