Also this:
No aliens.
Aliens are meant to be killed, not boinked.
Make love, not war!
And for my buddy Daemul... kinda NSFWish, mind you, even if it only shows a lot of naked skin.
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Which is interesting, given how unstable Miranda also is.Jack never should have been a love interest for anyone. She's really, really messed up. I really like Jack, I think she's probably a top 7 maybe top 5 Mass Effect character ever. But she's so damaged that it never made a lot of sense to make her a romance option.
Side note.
Miranda was originally intended to be a bisexual romance option. But they changed it.
And for my buddy Daemul... kinda NSFWish, mind you, even if it only shows a lot of naked skin.
Spoiler
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Kinda NSFW-ish? Haha, anyone reading this, I'd save this for home if I were you.
Which is interesting, given how unstable Miranda also is.
Miranda isn't unstable at all.
Oh, you're one of THOSE people.
And let's not bring up the god awful Tomb Raider reboot. That's just a huge can of worms right there.
One of what people? Are you calling me a man? I'll send you an angry message in clouds if you are!
I thought the Tomb Raider reboot was amazing.
One of what people? Are you calling me a man? I'll send you an angry message in clouds if you are!
I thought the Tomb Raider reboot was amazing.
I think it was because there are already many lesbian/asari romantic options in the Mass Effect universe, and some hetero women were necessary to keep the balance.
On technical terms, you have a disparity on what is actually straight, bi, or gay.
Miranda, Ashley, Jack, Tali, Jacob, James, Garrus, Thane, and Javik are all straight. Granted, two of those characters are more bonus flings added on through DLC (with one of them essentially being an easter-egg joke), while another two character's relationships end no matter what you do.
Kaidan, Kelly, Allers, Liara, and Samara are the Bi options (one more with one of those characters being more of a bonus fling from DLC), and arguably two of these relationships go absolutely nowhere (one has basically no content, the other is more or less a fling). So in some ways, you only have 2 Bi options.
Traynor and Cortez are the gay options.
But yeah, you have 4 unambiguously straight female LI's, and 5 unambiguously straight male LI's.
5 bisexual LI's.
And two homosexual LI's.
I think there should have been more male LI's. Especially human. All-in-all, females really only get 4 real (2 of whom aren't exclusive) LI's in ME3, whereas males get 7 (with 5 of them being male only).
So yeah, there's massive inequality.
Male
5 Straight - Ashley, Jack, Miranda, Kelly, Allers
2 Gay - Kaidan (ME3), Cortez
3 Alien - Liara, Tali, Samara (Citadel DLC)
Female
3 Straight - Kaidan, Jacob, James (Citadel DLC)
3 Lesbian - Kelly, Allers, Traynor
5 Alien - Liara, Thane, Garrus, Samara (Citadel DLC), Javik (Citadel DLC)
Overall, females have 11 romance options, males have 10. ME3 changes the numbers by killing Thane and making Jacob a cheater. Female Shepards are left with 2 straight, 3 lesbian and 4 alien romance options. Male Shepards are left with 5 straight, 2 gay and 3 alien romance options.
Overall, females have 11 romance options, males have 9. ME3 equalizes the number by killing Thane and making Jacob a cheater. Female Shepards are left with 2 straight, 3 lesbian and 4 alien romance options. Male Shepards are left with 4 straight, 2 gay and 3 alien romance options.
Are we really counting James and Javik as actual romance options? I mean that's kind of like saying that Isabella is actual romance for all Wardens. If we are counting it though, you should probably also count Shaira and Morinth for all Shepards.
Ignoring the total number of romance options, there are 2 male romance options in ME3, one had to survive the first game and the other had to be romanced in the second.
Lame...
Let's see. Removing romances that don't count towards Paramour achievement in ME3
Male
4 straight - Ashley, Jack, Miranda, Kelly
2 gay - Kaidan, Cortez
2 alien - Liara, Tali
Female
1 straight - Kaidan
2 lesbian - Kelly, Traynor
3 alien - Liara, Thane, Garrus
8 vs 6, or rather 5 since Thane dies. That sucks. On the other hand, only one romance option of those 5 has no pre-Earth romance scene - Kelly. Males have 3 of those - Jack, Miranda, Kelly.
I do agree that female romance options are lacking as a whole, and not only straight/lesbian options. Hopefully that'll change in ME:Next. I would like these proportions for romance options (for both sexes) - 4 straight, 2 gay, 2 alien
But you have to discern the amount of content and the nature of the content.
On paper, yeah, Femshep has more numerical LI's.
But look at how most of them turn out:
James is really a fling during the Citadel DLC; more appropriately, Shepard gets really drunk and borrows his penis for the DLC.
Jacob cheats on you and is completely closed off, even if the game implies that he still has feelings for you (actually, Dr. Cole explicitly says that Jacob still loves Shepard), which is full of all sorts of unpleasant implications (Jacob, the black guy, ditches you for another woman and knocks her up, but is implied to still be in love with you, which may potentially lead to him ditching his baby momma to get back with you). But past that, yeah, Jacob got iced as a character.
Thane gets some decent romantic content (IMO), but ultimately ends up as the deceased LI, cutting off that branch.
Javik is a flat-out joke 'LI' that was added more for humor than romance in a DLC(similar to James, although there's at least some semblance of courtship with him).
Samara gets some nice content, but it's a DLC bonus with some UST that will ultimately never lead anywhere. You really can't call her an LI.
Kelly is basically an ME2 consolation prize, the hot assistant you had that you get to take advantage of if you have no one else. In ME3, she all-but disappears from existence after, with no content past a kiss and walking into a shed.
And Allers isn't an LI so much as she is a fling. It's been stated that it's not a serious relationship at all, just a mutual attraction that turns physical.
A lot of these can't really be called Love Interests in the sense of the word here. I'm not going to argue about the problem of inequality here (I'm a Male Shep player who exclusively romances Miranda with a few female liaisons on the side prior to that (and more if Miranda is willing to experiment), and I'd say the best possible LI for Femshep would be Male Shep.) I'm just acknowledging that it does indeed exist.
I'd say the best possible LI for Femshep would be Male Shep.
What? How...? I can't even.....
Well, guess I'll need to buy this book here after all.
Shepardcest. One of my two canon romances.
MaleShep: Miranda
FemShep: MaleShep
MaleShep, Miranda, Femshep trio?
You hit the sweet spot.
Throw in Kelly and Doctor Michel too for extra redness.
As a redhead, you can never have enough redheads.
Why are people still arguing about this? ME2 has been out for five years (well on the 26th of this month it will be 5 years old) . Jack experimented but she ended up not liking it. You can watch videos on YouTube of her character explaining this (or you can see it for yourself when you play the game), that she is not interested in Femshep sexually, because Jack identifies as being straight.
I think part of the OP's curiosity might come from the fact that it's fairly common to see the Jack dialogue where she mentions having sex with at least one woman (though technically, it was a couple) as well as men but it's more obscure to see the conversation where she basically says ladies aren't her thing. (It requires talking to her at more specific parts, whereas the other one is one of her basic conversation options IIRC and a very early conversation.)
I agree with you that the character IS straight (and by the way, you can help her just as much without romancing her anyway, so a male Shep doesn't "save her" with a magic penis trope, because whether Jack gets her head screwed on right or not depends on loyalty - the result in ME3 is a positive, more functional Jack either way if she is loyal and survives - or maybe honestly if she just survives, though she does have a tendency to die easily if not loyal).
However, I wouldn't assume everyone has seen her point out ladies are not her cuppa. I have played ME2 multiple times as both Sheps and only saw that conversation in like a 3rd or 4th playthrough where she was friendly and seemed to assume my FemShep was hitting on her (not the intention, actually) and she talked about it.
I think part of the OP's curiosity might come from the fact that it's fairly common to see the Jack dialogue where she mentions having sex with at least one woman (though technically, it was a couple) as well as men but it's more obscure to see the conversation where she basically says ladies aren't her thing. (It requires talking to her at more specific parts, whereas the other one is one of her basic conversation options IIRC and a very early conversation.)
I agree with you that the character IS straight (and by the way, you can help her just as much without romancing her anyway, so a male Shep doesn't "save her" with a magic penis trope, because whether Jack gets her head screwed on right or not depends on loyalty - the result in ME3 is a positive, more functional Jack either way if she is loyal and survives - or maybe honestly if she just survives, though she does have a tendency to die easily if not loyal).
However, I wouldn't assume everyone has seen her point out ladies are not her cuppa. I have played ME2 multiple times as both Sheps and only saw that conversation in like a 3rd or 4th playthrough where she was friendly and seemed to assume my FemShep was hitting on her (not the intention, actually) and she talked about it.
I don't agree with this, if you try to romance Jack as a Female Shepard, just as a male Shepard would, it is contingent to circumstance that she lets you down. Therefore, to get the conversation in question, all you have to do is persue the romance with Jack as a female Shepard. The only way you miss it is if you either speed skip the conversation, or stop trying to romance Jack befor said conversation. Also, I'm not sure why you say "and by the way" (as though you are telling me something I don't already know), as part of my reasoning behind why the magic penis trope is stupid was that sex had nothing to do with helping Jack's psychological problems.
O.o...you have an unusual perception...and so we can agree to disagree.Miranda isn't unstable at all.
Many = 1?
Asari don't count, and Kelly is willing to take anything.
I have no idea, why the Jack character turned out, the way that she does.
But my personal preferences in the regards of npc and li's.
I rather prefer the writer thinks up some well developed characters and that includes a set sexuality, even if it's something that ie. gets discovered during the story and / or over time. I dislike the idea of characters getting moulded to fit some weird requirement of diversity, that diversity should be included from the get go.
As a guy I think F/F romance and more is pretty boring, because it has nothing to do with me. However, it can be the basis of a great and truely platonic friendship and I think there are room for such stories even in computergames.
I agree with other posters, that not every npc should drool over the playercharacter. I also believe that for li aspects to be improved in the future, it should be based somewhat on character traits or approximation of personality matches like ie. not everyone would be with a paragon player char and not everyone would be with a renegade.
O.o...you have an unusual perception...and so we can agree to disagree.
Miranda is not unstable, she is insecure. There is a difference.
Miranda is not unstable, she is insecure. There is a difference.
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